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Bill introduced in Congress to decriminalize marijuana!
Please contact your representatives if you live in the United States
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Re: Bill introduced in Congress to decriminalize marijuana!
Wow... Didn't think i would be seeing this for a while! Good find!
Ok you stoner's stop giggling mindlessly to spongebong hemp pants episodes put the wacky tobacy down and LISTEN UP just because this has hit congress doesn't mean its going to pass,it needs YOUR HELP for that to happen,dont know what to do? Well you can call/write your local senator,you can publish editorials in your local newspaper,get your friends involved ETC. Heres a good first step: Quote:
fnord added 530 Minutes and 51 Seconds later... http://www.southcoasttoday.com/apps/...NEWS/804060373 Quote:
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Re: Bill introduced in Congress to decriminalize marijuana!
Barney Frank himself knows it has no chance of passing. He didn't write it to pass. Hence he left out minor details, such as what a small quantity of marijuana would be.
The idea is to bring the insanity to peoples' attention. Good 'ol Barney. |
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Re: Bill introduced in Congress to decriminalize marijuana!
i thought it was 100 grams? How many other times has he tried this? i know its been a few,isnt there another bill thats working on being passed also along these lines?
Can anyone find this bill number or more info on it? Quote:
why arnt more people excited about this? Just found more info! Quote:
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Re: Bill introduced in Congress to decriminalize marijuana!
I see he's refined a few things. Must have been the dressing-down he's been getting from an otherwise supportive local (Massachusetts) media. They were hinting that even his supporters were having trouble with this bill - unless he made a few revisions such as defining "small amounts."
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Re: Bill introduced in Congress to decriminalize marijuana!
Weren't there two bills introduced? HR 5842 and HR 5843.
Heres an article on HR 5842... Medical Marijuana Patient Protection Act Introduced Yesterday in Congress HR 5842 would reschedule marijuana for medical use, end federal interference in state laws WASHINGTON, DC - April 18 - Congressional Representative Barney Frank (D-MA) introduced the "Medical Marijuana Patient Protection Act," HR 5842, yesterday, a bill co-sponsored by Representatives Maurice Hinchey (D-NY), Sam Farr (D-CA), Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA), and Ron Paul (R-TX). The act would change federal policy on medical marijuana in a number of ways. Specifically, HR 5842 would reclassify marijuana from a Schedule I drug, which cannot be prescribed, to a Schedule II drug, which would recognize the medical value of marijuana and create a regulatory framework for the FDA to begin a drug approval process for marijuana. The act would also prevent interference by the federal government in any local or state run medical marijuana program. Similar versions of HR 5842 have been introduced in prior Congressional terms, but have never made it out of committee. "It's time that the federal government take this issue seriously," said Caren Woodson, Government Affairs Director with Americans for Safe Access (ASA), a nationwide medical marijuana advocacy group working with Mr. Frank and other Members of Congress to change federal policy. "By disregarding marijuana's medical efficacy, and undermining efforts to implement state laws, the federal government is willfully placing hundreds of thousands of sick Americans in harms way." In addition to rescheduling marijuana under the Controlled Substances Act (CSA), HR 5842 would provide protection from the CSA and the federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (FDCA) for qualified patients and caregivers in states that have legalized the use of medical marijuana. Specifically, the act prevents the CSA and FDCA from prohibiting or restricting: (1) a physician from prescribing or recommending marijuana for medical use, (2) an individual from obtaining, possessing, transporting within their state, manufacturing, or using marijuana in accordance with their state law, (3) an individual authorized under State law from obtaining, possessing, transporting within their state, or manufacturing marijuana on behalf of an authorized patient, or (4) an entity authorized under local or State law to distribute medical marijuana to authorized patients from obtaining, possessing, or distributing marijuana to such authorized patients. In December, U.S. House Judiciary Chair John Conyers stated publicly his concern about the tactics being used by the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) and promised oversight hearings. Since then, several California mayors have written to Conyers expressing their support for hearings, including the mayors of San Francisco, Oakland, West Hollywood, and Santa Cruz. Opposition to federal interference in state medical marijuana laws has also come from multiple city councils, members of the California Board of Equalization and the state legislature, as well as New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson. Further information: Medical Marijuana Patient Protection Act, HR 5842: http://americansforsafeaccess.org/downloads/HR5842.pdf ASA Fact Sheet on the Escalation of Harmful DEA Tactics: http://americansforsafeaccessnow.org...escalation.pdf December 2007 Statement by House Judiciary Chair John Conyers: http://judiciary.house.gov/newscenter.aspx?A=889 Letter from San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom to Conyers: http://www.americansforsafeaccessnow...to_Conyers.pdf Letter from NM Governor Richardson to President GW Bush: http://safeaccessnow.org/downloads/richardson_letter.pdf http://www.commondreams.org/news2008/0418-03.htm |
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This will increase sales for drug dealers because more people will want weed, because they know they wont be screwed over for having it. Weed needs to be completely legalized, not just for possession but also for sale and manufacture, before it will be given any respect.
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Re: Bill introduced in Congress to decriminalize marijuana!
Update: A Missouri congressman has signed on as a co-sponsor of the bill introduced by Rep. Barney Frank.
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When they say not for profit transfers would be decriminlized,would it be legal if john doe buys an ounce off jane doe for the same price she paid for it?
Also what if someone started growing it just to give it away? |
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Re: Bill introduced in Congress to decriminalize marijuana!
Whaat? When my eyes first hit the title I started checking my calendar to see if it's april. Not that it would likely pass, but it's a newsbomb by itself which must bring up some controversy about the issue. This just made my day.
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Re: Bill introduced in Congress to decriminalize marijuana!
Yeah I'm surprised that they would include the part about allowing small transfers in the bill, because in reality that would legitimise all small scale deals, whether for profit or not. This is because it would never be possible to prove a profit was made since there is no record of the sale and you could easily just say 'I sold it for the same amount I bought it', even if that's not true. Hope it passes though, even though I'm not from America would be good to see progress being made somewhere in the world. I have my doubts though
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Re: Bill introduced in Congress to decriminalize marijuana!
I love how Riley states "This idea that we're spending scarce law enforcement dollars chasing after college kids with a couple of joints in their pocket is ludicrous," For one law enforcement dollars are far from scarce especially any drug related enforcement and second one of the ladies in the article stated how over 200,000 college students have lost financial aid over drugs and it wouldn't surprise me if a good percentage was marijuana because most drug arrests are marijuana anyway. Sometimes I can't even read things like this because the people who say its bad piss me off to the point where I want to just meet them face to face, grab their cheeks and scream LOOK AT THE DAMN FACTS!!
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Interesting developments for massachusetts then. I've always wanted initiative, referendum, and recall at the national level. Easiest ways to see public opinion enacted into policy. |
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Re: Bill introduced in Congress to decriminalize marijuana!
Well SWIMs congressman emailed SWIM with a nice little letter thanking him for sharing SWIMS opinions and how meth is bad and how he is trying to get as much prevention programs into the schools....
He didn't mention marijuana though Atleast SWIM got a message back. He believed that it was going into the black hole of the trash bin. SWIM wonders if a secretary wrote the email. |
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Re: Bill introduced in Congress to decriminalize marijuana!
I've heard this bill is stuck in committee hell now, anyone have a source for this?
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Re: Bill introduced in Congress to decriminalize marijuana!
Apparently this link gives you an update of the official status:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquer...0:HR05843:@@@X As of right now it seems to have been referred to the House Committee on Energy and Commerce. I'm not quite sure what that implies, perhaps someone in the U.S. could elaborate? P.S. in looking up that link, on a number of sites I read posts from people who emailed a member of congress about this and got a reply about it. If anyone wants to get some positive rep, I'm pretty sure posting an actual reply from a member of congress about this would do the trick. |
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Re: Bill introduced in Congress to decriminalize marijuana!
House Committee on Energy and Commerce is part of the U.S. House of Representatives. Basically they are the branch that tells the house about commerce, public’s health, and marketplace interests.
Anyway, I don't see it going through. Guess no publicity is bad publicity though. |
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Re: Bill introduced in Congress to decriminalize marijuana!
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The facts are that 44.8% of 12th graders in 2005 have tried pot at least once in their lifetime. And also, unlike the issues our parents faced where the younger generation was mostly strongly for pot decriminalization and the older were more strongly against it -- today the younger and aging crowds are together starting to see the big picture. This is an overwhelming amount of support. The number of marijuana smokers probably outdoes the number of people who have used other, legal drugs such as vicodin. In some states, it has become one of the most important cash crops, despite its illegal status. As a result, sure it may not be 'this' bill that legalizes freedom, but if it fails another will be written, and another, and another, until people either severely limit the use of marijuana or it is legalized through the system. Oh yeah...TOM RILEY IS FULL OF SHIT - A propagandist at work if I ever heard one! Quote:
The fact is that in America, it is still illegal to do research on the drug. Thus any 'scientific' evidence practiced was done underground and any information that did spread that way was never 'official'. How are people supposed to use the scientific process in court to legally prove its safety? It's exactly those kinds of corruptive practices that keep things stuck the way they are in this country (god, don't get me started about oil!) So of course marijuana supporters are first going to support bills that would aid the marijuana legalization in the long run - because introducing "let's legalize marijuana 100% right now" on a bill just doesn't work. Our point of view is to show people that the drug is useful and safe, and that by just giving people accurate facts instead of filling their heads with lies and propaganda, like they did in the 1930s (think Reefer Madness -- most people didn't even know that "marijuana" was the same plant as hemp and thus saw it, as a result of the propaganda, as a dangerous "menace to society".) What if it were alcohol on the stand and not marijuana? Would Tom Riley support it then? Does alcohol fit into his classification of a dangerous and addictive drug? Or does he see it as safe and non-addictive? What about alcoholics? People who die from alcohol? All the car crashes related to alcohol? In comparison to alcohol, marijuana would be the safer choice, and I hope that asshole says something stupid to get himself caught up in his bullshit. |
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Re: Bill introduced in Congress to decriminalize marijuana!
Alcohol had it's ban though, the government just lost that battle. Marijuana is different because the government won the battles. I agree though, stepping stones is what we need.
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Re: Bill introduced in Congress to decriminalize marijuana!
Banning alcohol required a Constitutional amendment. There hasn't been a constitutionalist American president since the war on drugs started. The real legal battles haven't been fought over the war on drugs yet.
This is a cause that will inevitably be won. It'll either start with American legal reform, or America will cease to be a global superpower (which, given economic trends, is not up for debate but simply a matter of time). |
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Re: Bill introduced in Congress to decriminalize marijuana!
Looks like this bill has now picked up a couple more co-sponsors. Here is the current list. All democrats with the exception of Ron Paul.
Rep Frank, Barney [MA] (Sponsor) Rep Baldwin, Tammy [WI] Rep Clay, Wm. Lacy [MO] Rep Lofgren, Zoe [CA] Rep Paul, Ron [TX] This bill does not stand a real chance, but it will be interesting to track its progress and see how it ends up and where exactly it gets shot down. |
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This is something I saw on another forum and thought it would be important to have here!
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and send a message to your representative supporting this new legislation. If you can spare an additional two minutes, make a phone call!
If you believe non-violent marijuana users should stay out of jail... If you believe the federal government should set precident on this issue... If you want to do what you can to help make this a reality... |
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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843]
There is enough wrong with the drug laws to fill a library with information. It's time to take the profit out of the illegal drug trade that's created by prohibition. Take away the money and then deal with the real drug problems but the prohibition problems are easy to fix! Regulate instead of prohibit.
It's time to remove all the politicians that promote prohibition. How many more lives have to be needlessly devastated or lost? Prohibited drugs are way easier for kids to get than regulated drugs! Prohibition never works it just causes crime and violence. The USA spends $69 billion a year on the drug war, builds 900 new prison beds and hires 150 more correction officers every two weeks, arrests someone on a drug charge every 17 seconds, jails more people than any nation and has killed over 100,000 citizens in the drug war. In 1914 when there were no prohibited drugs 1.3% of our population was addicted to drugs, today 1.3% of our population is still addicted to drugs but there’s way more crime and violence because of the huge profits prohibition generates. Drugs today are more potent, more readily available and less expensive than they were in the early 70’s when Richard Nixon started the war on drugs. “Jury Nullification”, learn more here: http://fija.org If you are called for jury duty and you don’t agree with the law the person is charged with, you have the right to vote not guilty, no matter what evidence is produced. Jurors implementing this right in all non-violent drug cases will shut down the ridiculous laws of prohibition. One juror in each case is all it takes. The bottom line is a juror has the right to judge not only the accused person but the law the person is accused of breaking. Don’t be intimidated stick to your position. There’s only been one drug success story in history, tobacco, by far the most deadly and one of the most addictive drugs. Almost half the users quit because of regulation, accurate information and medical treatment. No one went to jail and no one got killed. The right; to freedom of religion, free speech, a free press, to keep and bear arms, to be secure in your person, house, papers and effects against unreasonable search and seizure, to life, liberty and property, to be protected from having your property taken by the government without due process of law and without just compensation, to confront the witnesses against you, to be protected from excessive bail, excessive fines, cruel and unusual punishment, to vote and many others have been denied to millions of Americans in the name of the drug war. Last edited by Alfa; 30-06-2008 at 14:09. |
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