RC questions

[Bwen]

I just tried XTC last weekend..cost me 20$ Canadian a tab. I don't like paying a high price for god knows what XTC. So I have been looking into 2C-I and I'm wondering how close it actually is to E? Also since I just made an account I don't have access to the source forum and probably won't due to lack of posts. Is there anyway to access the source forum any other way?

[noeticbuzz]

Bide your time and spread some knowledge.


It is possible to find distributors without access to the source forum just more time consuming.


Some advice I recieved that was helpful.



And Huzzah for my 100th post


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[BlueMystic]

IMO. Both being in the same family (phenethylamine) would be the closest relation they have to each other. Other then that I haven't really found them to have any similarities. Others experiences may differ. Concerning the other question. There is one and only way to get access to the sources forum. Patience is a virture.

[fiftyseven]

looking to RC's as substitues for E is a very bad idea, thats how these thigns get lost forever for everyone else. these things are really not to be fucked around with. i would say that each should be experienced as it is, and if you go into looking for somthing that its not, it will deffinatly change the experience.

[cyalume]

If your want the ecstasy experience stick with ecstasy.. no research
chemicals are good substitutes for it. And if you buy ecstasy
pills by the 10 and 20 pack you can get them muuuuch cheaper,
also dont buy in a club or at a rave thats where prices are at there
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[Bwen]

Well the pills I tried were "Blue Hammer". I am now looking into "methylone" Trying to find a site that sells Explosion's... so far nada..

[gn2osis]

2C-I is like a blend of XTC and LSD, at least IMO (wow, check out all
the initials). Not a substitute but something similar, with a little
something extra, namely tripping. The first hour felt very similar to
XTC (actual MDMA), speedy, maybe a bit less euphoric. Then at the
one-hour point, it was as if a switch flipped and the familiar feeling
of tripping set in although without much visual activity. It was never
out of control (17 mg/ 90 kg, lightweight) and there was quite a lot of
empathy and a push to share and talk honestly, and dancing felt great.
I think it would be safe in a club but only once you're familiar with
how it effects you, and comfortable with the feeling of tripping in
public even if it's just mild tripping.

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[ISBN]

I hear the "like X and LSD" comment made alot, but does anyone think
coke and LSD is a better comparison (or perhaps even coke and DXM)?



and no, 2C-I is not like MDMA. 2C-I has a little bit of a "it feels
good to move and dance" quality, but it's not the same flavor. 2C-I has
no euphoria or lovey dovey empathy qualities. It doesn't have that
wonderful rush. Methylone would be your best alternative, but it's not
cheaper than bulk e.


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[drwoo]

I see no E type qualitiesin 2c-i. Edited by: drwoo

[gn2osis]

Originally Posted by ISBN

and no, 2C-I is not like MDMA. 2C-I has a little bit of a "it feels
good to move and dance" quality, but it's not the same flavor. 2C-I has
no euphoria or lovey dovey empathy qualities. It doesn't have that
wonderful rush.

OK, that's fair. 2C-I probably does have more of an emphathic,
sped-up, feel-good quality than many other RC's, but you are
right: just because it's relatively closer to E than other RC's
doesn't make it close in absolute terms.



I believe there is also some empathy in 2C-I, and one of Shulgin's trials
also said something like "incredible honesty; I was not afraid to say
anything". But then, some people experience a certain push to be honest with
all psychedelics.



And of course lots of these things have merit on their own if you don't expect them to be something different....



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[allyourbase]

2CI is nauseatingly prevailant in "ecstasy tabs". lmao if youve ever tried "speed based", or lmao the one I find hilarious "mescaline based" X it was probably really 2ci. and no that doesnt mean they are anything alike. 2 C I is an actual hallucinagen, an honest to god psychedelic. wheras MDMA is a boring empathogen with no real redeeming qualities whatsoever. I dispise candy kids for distributing these substances. their moronic wall licking mentality is the reason we decent respectable, dare I say intelligent, folk cant smoke AMT any longer. Edited by: allyourbase

[gn2osis]

Originally Posted by allyourbase

2CI is nauseatingly prevailant in "ecstasy tabs".
lmao if youve ever tried "speed based", or lmao the one I find
hilarious "mescaline based" X it was probably really 2ci. and no that
doesnt mean they are anything alike. 2 C I is an actual hallucinagen,
an honest to god psychedelic. wheras MDMA is a boring empathogen with
no real redeeming qualities whatsoever. I dispise candy kids for
distributing these substances. their moronic wall licking mentality is
the reason we decent respectable, dare I say intelligent, folk cant
smoke AMT any longer.

Agree; it sucks that XTC tabs are so variable. No one should have
to ingest ephedrine or DXM or K or 2C-I or anything else they don't
expect. OTOH, most of the time people knew exactly what they were
getting with RC's, and the fact that only a death or two occurred (and
those with TOTALLY irresponsible behavior) just proves their safety,
really. Standard MDMA powder or pills would be so much nicer.....

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[mariecurie]

I'm tired of hearing random research chemicals compared to the LSD/MDMA
combo. The mental space on LSD is completely different from any
phenethylamine and to compare them is retarded.



A lot of people like Methylone a lot, but as someone already mentioned, it isn't going to be any cheaper than bulk ecstasy.



2C-I is a bland, generic hallucinogen. It has no MDMA qualities. You
get crappy LSD wanna-be visuals without any of the "enlightenment" or
mental space of LSD.

[bud head four20]

id say go for 2C-b if you want the E effect but thats just my oppnion.

[gn2osis]

Originally Posted by mariecurie

2C-I is a bland, generic hallucinogen. It has no MDMA qualities. You
get crappy LSD wanna-be visuals without any of the "enlightenment" or
mental space of LSD.

There are those who would respectfully disagree with that assessment
(Shulgin himself, in part - he called 2C-I a treasure and ally).
Some people really do feel wonderful on it, and enjoy the psychedelic
and empathic qualities they feel. Your mileage may vary.

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[jaguarangel]

MDMA analogues would seem to be what you are looking for like
Methylone, MBDB etc.

[BEEKSc1]

Originally Posted by gn2osis

There are those who would respectfully disagree with that assessment (Shulgin himself, in part - he called 2C-I a treasure and ally). Some people really do feel wonderful on it, and enjoy the psychedelic and empathic qualities they feel. Your mileage may vary.
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i have to agree with marie, i know swimdidn't have the best of trips, but whenswim first tried 2c-i, he was quite disapointed with the lack of insight it provided. the visuals where there, but swim's brain wasn't making the connections or associations that 'cid and the mushies provide.


is there any RC can can be discribed similar to "getting lost in acid la-la land?"Edited by: BEEKSc1