SWIM First time with Ket

[Gas-Head]

SWIM and SWIM's friends are trying ket for the first time next month. They are purchasing 2g (0.5g each) through a reliable source of one of SWIM's friends. SWIM's friends have all done nasal drugs before such as speed, coke and MDMA, SWIM has not but has taken other nasal substances before.

The plan is that they will have a few joints, take some ket, take some Nos while waiting for the effects to kick in. SWIM wanted to know if they took the Ket at 2pm if they would be in a fit state to drink and smoke weed by 7 or 8pm as some more of SWIM's friends will be joining them? SWIM has read up on the forum and discoverd that effects should last around 5 hours which SWIM belives would be fine but just wanted to be sure.

Lastly SWIM was also wondering in what size lines SWIM and SWIM's friends should consume there 0.5g of ket each? SWIM was considering 0.2g then using the rest of pick ups in quantatites of 0.1g but wanted to check with more experienced users.

Thank You in advance
SWIM

[Nose Dive]

SWIY should be fine to drink later on as one assumes SWIY won't be having too much. My Bill is pretty bad with quantites, but he says the good thing about Ketamine is that SWIY can start off with very small bumps and build it up. He suggests SWIY does a very skinny small line to start with to get used to it then bump up as you get more accustomed to it.

[chinpokomaster]

SWIM has encountered some crazy, crazy delerium whilst smoking weed and snorting ket. Be Careful. SWIM thought his friend's bathroom door and towels were angry with him and got paranoid sitting on the toilet. When he finally finished his business after what seemed an eternity, he went upstairs and curled into a ball on his friend's bedroom floor for a few hours with his eyes shut hoping it would go away.

[Lettish]

Start low and work up. Keep in the back of Swiy mind that it is just a drug, and it will wear off (that's if things start to get a little bit too crazy).

Also, what really helps, is if the room/house is really tidy and clean. The more comfortable the room, the better. Make sure it's warm and put on some good music. Just relax and take Swiy time. After the first snort you will start to feel it a little after two mins. Take Swiy time. Keep a clock near by and work in fifteen minute periods. If after fifteen mins Swiy feels fine and wants to do more, have a bump. Be smart and don't try to be a hero or the cool one who can snort the most.

Most of all - enjoy it. And Swiy will absolutely love talking about it afterwards.

[adzket]

swim offers this advice have a drink but do not be drunk or tipsy as k makes alcohol seam stronger it is normaly ok to drink after or during. keep weed smoking till after coming down as both don't mix well in swims opinion plus it will be hard to roll if you get a k hole and when on k one does not generaly like the feeling of a joint or cigaret they feel spongy and 1mt long start with around 100mgs and then work up make shure swiy is siting coftable as they dont want to fall over in a hole or try robo walking unless nesersery. things get very sereal so be with people swiy is coftable with so it dont mater if they make an ideot of them selfs if this is there first time maybe take starting doses at diffirent times so can whatch out for each other put a good film on or some music as this is ment to make trip more fun plus you may not be able to comunicate propaly or at all so be prepaired also have lots of tisues or toilet roll handy as swim says it gets very messy after with nasal congestion swim hopes swiy enjoy's there adventures into the k-hole

[dave-o]

Originally Posted by Gas-Head

take some ket, take some Nos while waiting for the effects to kick in. .

Don't bother with doing anythig while waiting. It will kick in within 5-10 minutes

Originally Posted by Gas-Head

SWIM wanted to know if they took the Ket at 2pm if they would be in a fit state to drink and smoke weed by 7 or 8pm as some more of SWIM's friends will be joining them?

Yes. The strong effect will only last half an hour - an hour, the wooziness after that may last another hour.

Originally Posted by Gas-Head

SWIM has read up on the forum and discoverd that effects should last around 5 hours which SWIM belives would be fine but just wanted to be sure.

My sloth's never felt much effect after 2 hours.

Originally Posted by Gas-Head

Lastly SWIM was also wondering in what size lines SWIM and SWIM's friends should consume there 0.5g of ket each?

If my sloth was going back in time to do his first line, knowing what he knows now he would:

Assuming you want to visit a parralel dimension:
Split the .5 gram into two. Snort one of the lines, put some ambient music on and get comfortable.
Keep the other line for another day. Although mentally you will want to take the other line later to get back into that fascinating alternate dimension, realistically your tolerance will have built up and you will just end up feeling like a happy half-wit for an hour.

Assuming you just want to have a bit of a strange feeling:
Make it into smaller lines and do whatever. Save 1/4 of a gram for another day though, as it seems like a waste to have the possibility of a parralel dimension in your pocket but only ever use it in a manner that will make you feel like you have been drinking and glue-sniffing.

[Masa]

SWIM eyeballs his G into 8 lines , thats half the gram then half both half grams then half all 4 half half grams
one of these lines will be a pretty good start
tbh taking anymore and the is a good chance one of you will chuck, so not pretty

on the other hand the is a school of thought that says you should really tank it up on your first time cos your brain will nvr be as affected by K again

[dave-o]

Originally Posted by Masa

tbh taking anymore and the is a good chance one of you will chuck,

My sloth's never seen anyone be sick after K, and he's seen some pretty crazy amounts taken at once.

[Nose Dive]

Heh, the only time my Bill threw up on ket was when he had been drinking wine and decided to start drinking milkshake. Mistaaaaaake!
Don't over do it, is all.

[Lettish]

Originally Posted by Nose Dive

Heh, the only time my Bill threw up on ket was when he had been drinking wine and decided to start drinking milkshake!

Swim can't imagine what colour it was...

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[dave-o]

Originally Posted by Lettish

Swim can't imagine what colour it was...

[Lettish]

Sorry - ignore those posts. Swiw should stay on topic. Swim's apologies.

[Gas-Head]

SWIM wants to thank you for all your advice, any more information on quantities would be greatly helpful as SWIM wants as many peoples opinion as possable

[Conkermon]

SWIM does it in "keys" a little bump the size of a key to bring on the effects. He will then do another key every 15 or so minutes to maintain the effects. If he wants to get more fucked he will do a big line. Just remember not much K is needed, it's not like coke where the lines are fairly large. If SWIY does plan on getting really fucked then it's best to do it sooner rather than build up tolerance doing lots of bumps. SWIM made this mistake, he did bumps all night and then when he did his last line (which was a big line) he didn't feel it.

[moda00]

Swim is surprised by some of the amounts mentioned, but she is not the most experienced user.. 0.1 g is 100mg, 0.2 is 200 mg, etc. The erowid dosing guidelines state that 30-75 mg is a normal dose, 60-125 mg is strong, and 100-250 mg is a k-hole dose. Swim's first time she had 50mg in two piles of 25 mg each. Did one 25 mg line in one nostril, waited about 10-15 minutes, and 25 mg in the other nostril. About an hour later, she made a 26 mg pile and divided that into two, insufflating half (13 mg) and ended up putting the other half back into the bag at the end of the evening as she didn't end up needing it. So that was only a total of ~63 mg, and she was plenty faded. She had a couple very brief moments of nausea and panic-y feeling towards the start, and one brief moment where she realized her breathing was extremely shallow and worried she would stop breathing, but that passed quickly. Other than that felt very strange and silly, "liquid-y" and slow, and very disconnected from her physical body (slapping oneself and shuffling around and then collapsing on the ground and laughing her ass off were about all she could manage to do). She felt a lot of interesting visual sensations, a synaesthesia of sorts even though she was quite disconnected from her body, hard to explain, and for some reason found it very colorful. She felt that when she spoke, she was watching someone else speak, or words were coming from some alternate source. To her, it was a very unique and intense experience, and she feels gave her a good intro to the substance- but everyone responds differently, and swim is more sensitive than many when it comes to some substances.

So she would recommend starting with 50 mg in two 25 mg lines, and then continuing with 12.5-25 mg bumps until one reaches a desired state. Just swim's approach. Also, she has heard that the different isomers/formulations can vary in strength, so good to know which kind one has. That said, some believe that the worthwhile doses are in the 150-400 mg range- which may be good for some, but I still say start low for the first experience. Enjoy!

[Masa]

SWIM thinks the erowid numbers are a bit low , tho maybe his is not the most pure Ket and they could be for a first time noob user
Swim thinks anything after your first G you will need 200-250 for a K hole

[ThirdEyeFloond]

My chimpanzee usually advices ppl to start out with 100-125mg. It seems to be a fitting dose for most first time users to reach the beloved K-hole. This isn't a dose for running around at parties etc. and he would advice ppl to lie down comfortably for the whole experience, turn off the lights and put on some ambient music suited for K-tunneling. Below K-hole doses is a waste and only aids to build up tolerance in his opinion.

[moda00]

Hmm, from what swim has read her experience was not a k-hole, nor was she intending for one, she was just kinda going with the flow.. If one seeks a k-hole for their first experience it is likely to take a bit more.. but swim was not intending that. I see now why these numbers vary so much, although it does sound like the higher end of the erowid dosing range is a bit lower than the preferred k-hole dose for many.

[pinkandfluffy]

Swim was doing K at a party, and when he had run out and was coming down slightly, he smoked a spliff. Definately not reccomended for first timers or those with a weak constitution who can't handle intense experiences, because it was MAAAAAAAAAD. He just about enjoyed it.

[Pseudo-leipä]

SWIM is also looking into the possibility of having his first K experience in the near future. As he's never used any disassociatives before, and he always likes to err on the side of caution, he thought it would be unwise to go for a K-hole his first time. But am I right in thinking that most people here deem the use of K other than for the K-hole is pointless? Or is it just the case that once you have seen the K-hole you will never want to bother with lower doses?
SWIM's original plan was to buy a half gram, and then one day to do 2 30mg lines (10 minutes apart), then possibly bump up with another 15mg line or two, later on, depending on how he's feeling. A few days later, assuming the initial venture wasn't a disaster, he was planning to enter the k-hole, with an as-yet undecided dosage (it would depend on how SWIM coped with the first day).
Would this sound wise for a cautious first-timer? And if so, would 2 or 3 days between the two events be long enough that he would be able to get a good K-hole?

[Gas-Head]

Just an update SWIM should be taking his K this weekend so il make sure he lets you know how it goes unless ofc he fails to get hold of some in which case he will weep

SWIM

[BlondieUK]

Originally Posted by dave-o

My sloth's never seen anyone be sick after K, and he's seen some pretty crazy amounts taken at once.

Swim found his K-Hole, which was great.

However Swim threw up a few times after this, and is currently feeling "woozy"

Feel pretty smashed actually.