SWIM wants to try a psychedelic

[Jabber]

SWIM want's to try a psychedelic, but is uneasy about something as intense as LSD or as anxiety ridden as mushrooms SWIM already has anxiety and uses marijuana occasionally, is there something that is just a mild psychedelic so SWIM knows what he is getting into and doesnt have a bad time? SWIM couldnt find another spot besides mushrooms to post this.

[pinkandfluffy]

"The Euphoric Mind" forums should do the trick.

you could go for the (legal and orderable over the web) LSA Morning Glory seeds. LSA is similar to LSD chemically but produces quite different effects.

Swim has never tried them himself so cannot vouch for them, and he has heard from friends they are a waste of money. However, he was also present when a friend ate loads, and was very happy and content. Check out trip reports etc.

[TMM]

Nothing is, in itself, a mild psychedelic. It's all dosage related. So, whatever SWIY decides upon, take a smaller dose if he is anxious and wants to feel it out.

Things SWIY should be concerned with:

Mushrooms, shorter duration (~6 hours) but nausea is more common. Short duration is often a bonus, since it can be an overwhelming experience.

LSD, longer duration (8-10 hours) and less nausea. Not often very available at good strenth, though.

Mescaline cacti, difficult to ingest and very long duration (12-14 hours), perhaps not for beginners in this respect. Purging is common. Often seen as milder than others, but this is mainly down to weaker comparative doses.

Morning Glory or Hawaiian Baby Woodrose, more often than not, extreme nausea. Honestly, not recommended.

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Good advice

[pinkandfluffy]

To be honest, Mikes personal reccomendation would be to take half a tab. That was his introduction to LSD, and he just felt very slight effects, and tripped out a bit later on. It made him ready to do a full tab.

[Metomni]

SWIM has experience with LSA containing morning glory seeds. He ate about 300 of them (first he made sure they did not contain pesticides or anything) and had a pretty good experience. It wasn't mind blowing or anything, but it does sound like what SWIY wants.

[Jabber]

SWIM thanks everyone for there replys, he might order some legal phsycadelic first, swim thinks 1/2 tab of acid sounds good but he still has the stigma LSD is very powerfull and may be too much for him to handle, swim will most likely try a small dose of lsd, in the future, not near future because swim isn't even over 18 yet.

[truth]

LSD is SWIMS opinion is very controllable. SWIM always knows he is on a drug. Where as in mushrooms, SWIM sometimes got lost in a void of just nothingness in high-doses and feels mushrooms are not controllable but a very beautiful drug. SWIM believes LSD is much easier for anxiety purpose, SWIM has always felt great on LSD and never freak out. But on shrooms SWIM has had a couple moments where inside he said Stop. But only a couple times. Good luck bro. Ones mind will open much after a psychedelic experience

[Jabber]

Also, SWIM is taking seroquel and lexapro, any known complications between LSD or phsycadelics between the 2 medications?

[Shampoo]

Originally Posted by Jabber

swim will most likely try a small dose of lsd, in the future, not near future because swim isn't even over 18 yet.

Isn't over 18? Please regard the rules in respect to the age restrictions for membership on this site. See you in a few years.

[Dogears]

Mushrooms or mescaline are less likely to cause emotional anxiety than LSD. However LSD would be best at helping you work through the aniety issue.

[Salvinorum]

If you have anxiety with marijuana, there is a simple but very important way to avoid it with stronger psychedelics. Make absolutely sure that you take a full psychedelic dose of whatever drug you choose. Half doses or try-outs will cause only major anxiety, have no benefitial effects, show you nothing of the true nature of the substance, and most sadly, give you a strong belief that this is how a full dose will feel, but worse. This is far from the truth.

SWIM cannot take any dose that is under a full psychedelic dose, especially when dealing with LSD and psilocybin. SWIM is very lucky that the first dose all those years ago was a large LSD dose, because SWIM is very sure that if he took a small dose, as he has done a few times, he would never go near another psychedelic again.

While there is always a chance of a bad trip on a full dose, you must know, since you visit these forums, that it is over when it is over. While knowing this fact will not help you while you are in the bad trip, remember it when considering your first dose. No matter what substance you choose, if you do a small dose, I guarantee it will ruin any future relationship with ANY psychedelic, and perhaps even make the anxiety with marijuana unbearable so you may have to quit that as well.

[quomem]

Originally Posted by Salvinorum

If you have anxiety with marijuana, there is a simple but very important way to avoid it with stronger psychedelics. Make absolutely sure that you take a full psychedelic dose of whatever drug you choose. Half doses or try-outs will cause only major anxiety, have no benefitial effects, show you nothing of the true nature of the substance, and most sadly, give you a strong belief that this is how a full dose will feel, but worse. This is far from the truth.

SWIM cannot take any dose that is under a full psychedelic dose, especially when dealing with LSD and psilocybin. SWIM is very lucky that the first dose all those years ago was a large LSD dose, because SWIM is very sure that if he took a small dose, as he has done a few times, he would never go near another psychedelic again.

While there is always a chance of a bad trip on a full dose, you must know, since you visit these forums, that it is over when it is over. While knowing this fact will not help you while you are in the bad trip, remember it when considering your first dose. No matter what substance you choose, if you do a small dose, I guarantee it will ruin any future relationship with ANY psychedelic, and perhaps even make the anxiety with marijuana unbearable so you may have to quit that as well.

Can't agree with you on this one.

Far too much variation in blotter doses to be able to take any dose of cid with certainty. Any experienced tripper will know that while a quarter of a blotter of good stuff will give a threshold effect, another batch of blotters may require 2 full blotters for the same threshold. certainly wouldn't recommend any inexperienced tripper to throw caution to the wind.
Start light, you can always add to it. buts kinda hard to take it out once you've put it in.

Then there is the problem of whether our friend even has acid - or a DOx or the 2cb-fly etc that is now being passed off as acid.

For a truely mild (in SWIM's experience) introductory psychedelic experience, suggest trying a 2Cx at sensible levels. there are still reliable sources for these.

[nowandwow]

I am new here. I have seen the acronym SWIM used a lot in posts. Would someone tell me what that means? Thanks!

[Panthers007]

Start here:
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40997

Now go here:
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/ann....php?f=184&a=1

The place for finding answers/asking questions is here:
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=43

Bye!

[GentlyWeeps]

Swim also wants to try one. Fortunately for her/him s/he just picked up some Lucy. After experience (which date hasn't been set yet) Swim will post his/her report.

[nowandwow]

Thank you Panthers for clarifying what SWIM means. I think I got it. Seems rather unnecessary to speak about oneself in those terms but can't be too cautious I suppose.

[Stephenwolf]

Originally Posted by Shampoo

Isn't over 18? Please regard the rules in respect to the age restrictions for membership on this site. See you in a few years.

It wasn't fair to ban jabber at all. Beings as Someone who ISN't Jabber isn't 18. Jabber very well could have been. particularly if we want SWIM to mean ANYTHING. Someone who isn't say Shampoo isn't 18 yet. there are plenty of people who aren't me who aren't 18. Just because he said SOMEONE he Knows who isn't him is 18 should not ban him. For instance i have an 11 year old little brother. That is someone who isn't me. So i could say Swim is 11 and that should not be bannable if SWIM really is supposed to mean that at all. Otherwise its so clear what it means that it No longer provides any form of barrier about Self incrimination either.