Vote for cannabis decriminalization

[Greenport]

Just for fun

Vote for (or against, meh) decriminalization of marijuana

[allyourbase]

Im all for drug law reform, but you may as well be asking someone from the coors family if they know of a good cheap weak beer. not that the horse urine coors sells as beer could be misconstruued as "good".

[Greenport]

lol I know it's just for fun If I wanted actual results this would be in a place that is much more neutral on the topic lol.

[old hippie 56]

Originally Posted by allyourbase

Im all for drug law reform, but you may as well be asking someone from the coors family if they know of a good cheap weak beer. not that the horse urine coors sells as beer could be misconstruued as "good".

They would probably reply "Natural Light". Kinda partial to Coors Light.

[FuBai]

I voted "no". This is because decriminalisation doesn't really answer my main problem with drugs, which is the criminal gangs that go with it. Decriminalisation still leaves supply in the hands of criminals. Legalization, on the other hand, puts supply in the hands of government and business. Would I prefer decriminalisation to prohibition? Probably, but legalisation is the real answer.

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great point, stimulates discussion

[trixion]

Legalisation will represent that the government approves. The governemnt will be more than willing to approve as more taxes/revenue can be collected. However the income collected and to spend on make the citizen to recover is more and thus not profitable.

Might as well banning it. In any place, if there is a demand and there will be a supply. The only intersection where demand meet supply..is where quantity of good is sold at the price of those who willing to buy. The only people who are willing to run the risk lives on the streets.

If they are not the people that you look for when SWIY need something illegal..may SWIM know who do you look for..?

[ninjaned]

question- lets say swim voted for turkey and then realized, "hey what the fuck, why did i say turkey?" so what was the relevance of the answer turkey?

[chstudent]

It is pretty well known by most in government that legalizing marijuana would create revenue from taxes, but still there has been no decriminalization. SWIM believes this is because those with the power to decriminalize, are for the most part, elected officials. So there will be no decriminalization as long as those in power believe that the populous at large is not in favor of it.

[Master_Khan]

Swim says bring back the old school (relatively) low THC content pot of the sixties and seventies that you could actually smoke a fat joint of without tapping out, lol.

[CoryInJapan]

Originally Posted by Master_Khan

Swim says bring back the old school (relatively) low THC content pot of the sixties and seventies that you could actually smoke a fat joint of without tapping out, lol.

As long as we still got to HIGH THC content pot for those of us that like it remains along side on the market then sure XD

I voted for decrim but,As many have said I agree that legalization is the only solve all answer.

[Taken]

I meant to put yes but I put no. Sorry

[missparkles]

In swims opinion lots of people would like to see pot legalised. But they're too scared to say anything because they're more concerned about their reputation.
Its no longer about being true to one's convictions, image is everything (read ego) especially when you're talking about politicos.
They want the job more than they want to do what they know is right.
Vested power can be taken as easily as it's given, perhaps they should remember that too.

[Greenport]

Lol trixion you revived a year-and-a-half old thread of swiM's

[missparkles]

Originally Posted by Greenport

Lol trixion you revived a year-and-a-half old thread of swiM's

All good stuff though...eh?

[Nature Boy]

It should be legalised but SWIM would settle for decriminalisation if it were offered.

[Uncle Getafix]

Would happily settle for a grow your own decrim model. Legalisation would be the ultimate goal. SWIMs main aim is to convert criminal into civil convictions regarding cannabis. One cannabis conviction fucks with your travel and job prospects big time.

Change from criminal justice based to health and education/treatment based system.

[beizebopp]

SWIM thinks that cannabis legalization would be baaad. Think of all the regulations. Think of the taxes! It would surely still be illegal to grow, like tobacco.

[missparkles]

Originally Posted by beizebopp

SWIM thinks that cannabis legalization would be baaad. Think of all the regulations. Think of the taxes! It would surely still be illegal to grow, like tobacco.

If cannabis were legalised the repercussions for other drugs would be immense. Regulation doesn't always have to be a bad thing.

[beizebopp]

Originally Posted by missparkles

If cannabis were legalised the repercussions for other drugs would be immense. Regulation doesn't always have to be a bad thing.

Thats true! SWIM didn't think of that. SWIM supposes that cannabis legalization would be great if it was the start of a mass drug legalization, yet swim finds it very hard to believe that many governments would legalize narcotics and other drugs that they make so much money off simply from them being illegal.

SWIM wishes that all drug laws could be abolished, that people would start telling the truth about drugs. SWIM thinks that misinformation and naivete cause many deaths which are then used to strengthen the bullshit that caused them.

(sorry if this is stupid, swim is having troub le thinking)

[Nature Boy]

Originally Posted by beizebopp

SWIM thinks that cannabis legalization would be baaad. Think of all the regulations. Think of the taxes! It would surely still be illegal to grow, like tobacco.

The taxes would have to be balanced in order to compete with the black market. The quality of the cannabis would be a lot better with more variety and more bargains. I don't even think it's illegal to grow tobacco (why would you bother anyway?) and I don't see how any country that would legalise cannabis would ban people from growing a few plants in their homes. You can already do this in parts of Switzerland despite cannabis being illegal officially.

[missparkles]

Originally Posted by beizebopp

Thats true! SWIM didn't think of that. SWIM supposes that cannabis legalization would be great if it was the start of a mass drug legalization, yet swim finds it very hard to believe that many governments would legalize narcotics and other drugs that they make so much money off simply from them being illegal.

SWIM wishes that all drug laws could be abolished, that people would start telling the truth about drugs. SWIM thinks that misinformation and naivete cause many deaths which are then used to strengthen the bullshit that caused them.

(sorry if this is stupid, swim is having troub le thinking)

No not stupid at all. It makes perfect sense. If the government were prepared to take a good look at one drug and de-criminalise it they would perhaps be open enough to look at others.

[Desertfox]

All that money that goes towards fighting the drug war can instead go towards helping drug addiction and education. Doesn't that make more sense? And it wouldn't be so horrible for the economy because all that money wouldn't be going to criminals anymore and would instead go through the system like the rest of our dollars.

[Greenport]

Originally Posted by beizebopp

SWIM thinks that cannabis legalization would be baaad. Think of all the regulations. Think of the taxes! It would surely still be illegal to grow, like tobacco

Tobacco's illegal to grow??

SwiM doesn't think that's true.

[beizebopp]

Originally Posted by Nature Boy

The taxes would have to be balanced in order to compete with the black market. The quality of the cannabis would be a lot better with more variety and more bargains. I don't even think it's illegal to grow tobacco (why would you bother anyway?) and I don't see how any country that would legalise cannabis would ban people from growing a few plants in their homes. You can already do this in parts of Switzerland despite cannabis being illegal officially.

SWIM was sure that growing tobacco was illegal in the UK but he has just read that it is legal so long as the grower declares how much he has grown and pays the appropriate excise duties for it.
SWIM also read that the FDA wish to make tobacco illegal to grow the US unless the grower has a permit.
SWIM thinks the way it is done in parts of Switzerland is great. SWIMs cousin lives there and says that although cannabis is illegal there she can freely smoke it and usually not be bothered by anyone.
She said that people selling it are sometimes fined or spend a couple nights in jail.
SWIM thinks the taxes would be steep, although people can buy from the black market many are still greatly suppressed by the law, and would rather pay a premium so they need not take the risk. Although tobacco is legal to smoke (and grow apparently ) it is still taxed quite highly, and the contraband tobacco is much much cheaper. (At least in the uk)

SWIM thinks he should be allowed to do what he wants to himself under the umbrella of the law.

[Piano_man]

Why cannabis?

Many illegal drugs are much safer than cannabis. Why not them?

It really annoys me when cannabis users say that only cannabis should be legalised. They are even worse than the people who think it should be illegal. They spend their time giving out about the unfair treatment they get, but would happily extend the same unfair treatment towards the users of other drugs (whose drug of choice could be far safer than cannabis).

Having to work around unfair drug-laws themselves, you'd think they'd be less ignorant than the general public.

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	Interesting point.
	Well said! good point. m(_ _)m
	Brings up a very real issue in "our" factionalized drug culture that needs to be addressed.