Drug info - Looking for info on recreational value of a few downers

[faren1]

SWIM recently found a few 4mg tizanidine a few Cyclobenzaprine 5mg pills, some ambien, and clonezepam. SWIM was wondering if anyone has information on the recreational value of such drugs and the doses, or even if they could/should be mixed. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

[Beanfondler]

Both tizanidine and cyclobenzaprine enhance the art of napping and porch sitting. Swibf's found zero recreational value with any of the muscle relaxants sampled. Ambien(zolpidem) fairs a touch better, word from some spoke of intense visuals and body high if one can manage to stay awake. The marginal recreational potential is the general decrease of anxiety in general and the accompanied increase of sociability. Clonazepam has the same anxiolytic effect, but far more noticeable. Dosing beyond 3mgs within reason is relatively safe and is can cause blackout anmesia of the time dosed and a general inability to process the most basic of thoughts. Its best used for personal relaxation or if driven to the point of boredom where Swiy'd like to skip to the fourth dimensional plane of 8-12hrs in the future.

[Expat98]

There's been plenty written here about Ambien (zolpidem) and Klonopin (clonazepam). Why don't you try using the search engine for those? Dunno about the others, but the search engine should be your first action for those as well.

[Solinari]

Clonazepam and zoplidem are the only two that have any real recreational value, particularly the clonazepam, but the zolplidem and cyclobenzaprine would potentate the clonazepam. I have never heard of tizanidine, i don't think it's a good idea to add this to the mix.

Be careful if drugs are going to be mixed, i think it would be best to get the primary effects from the clonazepam and use the zoplidem and cyclobenzaprine sparingly probably at therapeutic doses.

[moda00]

Swim's used the tizanidine a couple times recently.. she found it to be very sedating, and helped with muscle cramping/pain. Good for therapeutic use (it is a muscle relaxant, as is cyclobenzaprine) and likely general reduction in anxiety or insomnia, but she wouldn't call it recreational. She does take methadone, which could have made it more potent, but she was kinda restless and leg cramps and was going to have a massage at a spa, and took two 4mg tizanidine- she was more relaxed than she can remember being in a long time, and actually fell asleep for a bit, but again she wouldn't take it "for kicks." Also unsure about any potential liver damage or side effects if mixed, so would advise a read through the prescribing info/label before taking any prescription drug off-label.

Clonazepam has recreational value- if one has ever done benzodiazepines, this is what clonazepam is considered. I think they come in 0.5, 1, and 2 mg pills here. A good dose for someone without a tolerance built up would probably be to start with around 1mg and see, as benzos affect people differently. More than 2-3 mg will likely knock one out (sleeping) and/or result in a drunk-like state of amnesia, disinhibition, and decreased motor skills and coordination. Can be dangerous mixed with alcohol or other sedatives such as opiates. Swimd doesn't know much about the zolpidem (Ambien), she's taken it a long time ago and just knocked her out, but some like it recreationally.

Also as advised, the search engine is a good function to use here on DF. Swim advises trying any new drugs alone before combining. Then, if one is going to combine, use a lower dose than one would if doing either/any of the drugs on their own. She thinks combining would be safest and most enjoyable by using either a benzo/clonazepam OR a sedative-hypnotic like zolpidem/Ambien, and then a muscle relaxer like tizanidine OR cyclobenzaprine. Re-reading, something similar to what Solinari said- not advising one to mix drugs, but if done swim thinks this sounds best. But of course it is always best to research each specific drug regarding interactions and effects if swiy is going to proceed. Best of luck!

[static_vodka_420]

Originally Posted by faren1

SWIM recently found a few 4mg tizanidine a few Cyclobenzaprine 5mg pills, some ambien, and clonezepam. SWIM was wondering if anyone has information on the recreational value of such drugs and the doses, or even if they could/should be mixed. Any information would be greatly appreciated.

in swims experience

tizanzidine- can indude sleepyness , give a lightheaded feeling, and potentiate opiates. swim would consider it even weaker than the other muscle relaxants.. swim uses it a-go to sleep b-potentiate opiates c-potentiate other sedatives although he does not reccomend this''
cyclobenzaprine- high includes a spacy feeling, total relaxation, drowsiness, slight visual changes, and opiate/benzo potentiation prepare to sleep though says swim
ambien- one of swims choice sleep aids that also helps him recreationally the effects include disinhibition, nice body buzz, relief of anxiety, and if swiy is lucky swiy can even dream while he is awake basically

clonazepam-benzodiazepene feeling of drunkeness, sleepyness, loss of anxiety and inhibition, mild euphoria reports swim

[laws0n]

SWIM has never heard of tizanzidine.

SWIM has been scripted Cyclobenzaprine before and don't let the name fool SWIY, it just made everything very boring and SWIM could sleep a little bit better. When SWIM took 20mg he had a very hard time getting up and had to force himself. No recreation value in SWIM's opinion.

Ambien (Zolpidiem) - SWIM has heard of people seeing things and "tripping out" but even staying up an hour after taking 2 pills (10mg i think?) SWIM just fealt a little bit more tired. No recreational use for SWIM except taking a little bit of stress off him and getting a good sleep, which is what it is meant for anyways.

Kolonapin (Clonazepam) - This is one of SWIM's favorite benzos. He will only bother taking them if he has alot of the 1mg or a few 2mg pills. SWIM feels relaxed and a little bit "loopy" at doses of 1-2mg but is still able to function. At doses 2mg-5mg SWIM feels completely relaxed, kind of like being pretty drunk. He acts like he is drunk says dumb things stumbles around and its not pleasent for anyone else. At doses above 5mg SWIM has blacked out before. He remembers taking the pills and then thats it, the next day SWIM is reminded of what he has done. It is almost like blacking out drunk but your emotions arent dramatically enhanced. Compared to other benzos, like Alprazolam, Clonazepam lasts longer, but comes on a little bit slower. Also no extreme drowsyness that SWIM feels on Alprazolam.

So Clonazepam is the only one that would have any recreational value, but be careful and dont over do it. Start with 1mg. If SWIY feels like he took too many hide the rest or give them to a friend to hold. SWIY will take the rest of them subconciously when blacked out and that is not good. Remember you can always take more if 1mg isnt enough.

[infekt]

Cyclobenzaprine - Just put swim to sleep for a very long time.
Ambien (Zolpidem) - Swim actually tripped out on this, for a very short while, before choosing to go to sleep. Very interesting drug and very relaxing.
Clonazepam - Has lots of recreational potential, like all benzos swim has tried. Makes swim very relaxed, hungry, and gives him the case of the "fuck its". Sex feels great on it, food tastes great on it, swim also finds music to be slightly enhanced on it. Careful not to do too much, which may be harder than it would seem. It could lead to blackouts or worse.

[humdroid]

Y isn't one for recreational downers, but on a short course of ambien once, a long time ago, noted on a few occasions, while waititng for it to work, he felt a presence in the room, not an evil one by any means, just that he was not alone.

[kemikal_nation]

Ambien is the best SWIMs had. Its a hypnotic so its obviously fun to use if you like hallucinations. You can ingest it or snort it, snorting being a rush of the drug, ingestion is a little more drawn out effects wise.

[drug-bot]

klonopins and xanax are swims favorite benzos (downers), taking in appropriate doses it creates a sense of care free relaxation and some euphoria, taking too many will make you either black out or pass out. other downers such as alcohol, barbituates and opiates potentiate the effects of benzos (benzodiazipines) immensly, so be very careful if swiy chooses to combine them. while overdosing on benzos alone is very hard (as it takes a tremendous amount to) to do mixing them with too much other downers makes an overdose or death more likely. be safe.