Shadow People

[sylenth]

quick question regarding these swimmers that see these shadow people... can these swimmers see fractals whilst on any thing? cos smurfs friend never sees fractals yet he sees shadow people, where as the smurfs see fractals & only a little shadows now & then from lack of sleep.

[RoboCodeine7610]

Originally Posted by sylenth

quick question regarding these swimmers that see these shadow people... can these swimmers see fractals whilst on any thing? cos smurfs friend never sees fractals yet he sees shadow people, where as the smurfs see fractals & only a little shadows now & then from lack of sleep.

SWIM is not sure what swiy means by fractals, but when swim saw the shadow person right in front of him, he was not on anything and had slept just fine...

[sylenth]

Originally Posted by RoboCodeine7610

SWIM is not sure what swiy means by fractals, but when swim saw the shadow person right in front of him, he was not on anything and had slept just fine...

i did read the post properly the first time robocodeine. smurfs friend & girl friend also see them with out being on any drugs yet they dont see fractals ever. smurf is just trying to establish a link in the different possibilities of brain chemistry that peoples brains could have for what they believe they seeing. for example smurf sees fractals often but not shadows often, surely you know whether you have seen fractals before or not 'on drugs or not'... simple question. with you saying you slept fine is possibly part of the key to the mystery which is why i started a thread about cev's when straight, healthy & well rested.

[RoboCodeine7610]

Originally Posted by sylenth

i did read the post properly the first time robocodeine. smurfs friend & girl friend also see them with out being on any drugs yet they dont see fractals ever. smurf is just trying to establish a link in the different possibilities of brain chemistry that peoples brains could have for what they believe they seeing. for example smurf sees fractals often but not shadows often, surely you know whether you have seen fractals before or not 'on drugs or not'... simple question. with you saying you slept fine is possibly part of the key to the mystery which is why i started a thread about cev's when straight, healthy & well rested.

SWIM didn't mean to be repetitive he just wanted to get the message through. He still doesn't have any idea what SWIY means by "fractals",please clarify it's meaning. Slightly off topic:we should make a group called "shadow beings" so that people who have seen them could share their experiences and maybe figure out something we have in common that makes us more sensitive to other astral planes or dimensions...

[sylenth]

Originally Posted by RoboCodeine7610

SWIM didn't mean to be repetitive he just wanted to get the message through. He still doesn't have any idea what SWIY means by "fractals",please clarify it's meaning.

neither do i want to be repetitive so here's a whole lot of info...



Fractals from the brain: they are images that one's brain is able to unlock to visualise by altered states of consciousness.

Neurophilosophy has now found a series of simply beautiful images created by using the electrical activity of the brain to seed fractal patterns which can be visualised in altered states of minds usually by many. with this system designed They're generated by BrainPaint. a custom system for neurofeedback - a technique in which a person connected to an EEG machine sees the output of their brain visualised in real-time.This allows people to see the result of modifying mental states that might otherwise be difficult to monitor internally.

For example, the system might be tuned to show a specific pattern when a peak alpha frequency is reached - reported to correlate positively with cognitive performance. The user can then practice making this pattern appear more often, as the system allows them to see when they're being successful, where previously it might not apparent.

BrainPaint is a neurofeedback system created by researcher Bill Scott who seemed to have come up with the idea of making the feedback appear as beautiful images. Neurofeedback is being used quite widely outside the mainstream and currently crosses the threshold between a fringe practice and a scientifically validated therapy. Certainly, there are now a growing number of scientific studies which have demonstrated its modest but reliable effectiveness in some disorders. However, its not difficult to find neurofeedback therapists on the fringes of the mainstream who claim amazing effects that aren't supported by the research.

if you google fractal/wiki there is more info & here's another link with more info. http://www.geocities.com/Omegaman_UK/fractal.html

psychiatrists are turning to fractals, believing that they may cast new light on mental illnesses.

fractal chaos if you interested...http://www.fractalwisdom.com/FractalWisdom/index.html

so my point is a lot of people see fractals on various psychedelics & psycho active drugs some's fractals stay with them afterwards such as sweyself. these people mostly do'nt see shadows. as for another person to give lots of insight to these shadow people, smurfs friend on the forum 'missingfet' has had his fair share of them since young & he does'nt see fractals ever i'll try get him to join on the thread to provide more insight.

Slightly off topic:we should make a group called "shadow beings" so that people who have seen them could share their experiences and maybe figure out something we have in common that makes us more sensitive to other astral planes or dimensions...

this is what we are trying to clarify here in this thread, go ahead & make your group though. only thing smurf is trying to provide info on is the fact is that there might be the answer provided already on this thread. smurf does believe in other planes & has seen physical objects moving in front of him whilst perfectly straight yet no shadows.

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dude, that's one totally badass post. thanks a million! -R.S.

[psychoshaman]

Amphetamines can take you to dark places eh?

[ThirdEyeFloond]

Back in SWIMs stimulant whore days he and friends would use these shadow people as an indicater for when to stop a meth binge aka get some sleep. He never thought they were intelligent beings, unlike the entities he has met on certain psychedelics, simply figments of the imagination from a sleepdeprived mind.

[Zaknafien]

this is swims idea on shadow people
swim was one of the less then fortunate to try diphenhydramine at a much higher then rational level. Swim found that the shadow people tended just to stare at him from every dark place. be it an empty car. They never seem to do much harm just kinda sit there. Swim imagines that the shadow people are the dark relatives to the god like beings of dmt trips. being as basically the same chemical is making the shadow people just in a different context. Diphenhydramine high is much like not sleeping high. And not sleeping puts the mind into a dream/while awake faze. The brain waves mimic that of rem sleep. And the chemical that causes dreams is dmt. So swim imagines that thay are closely related. The whole lot are creepy though just sitting there so quite stareing.

[RoboCodeine7610]

SWIM was, and still is skeptical about all this kinds of paranormal experiences (such as fractals).SWIM completely understands swiy's skepticisim, since he's just as skeptic as swiy.But he can't just deny what he SAW with such clarity and for such a prolonged period of time.So swim is 100% sure that he SAW it.Now, the million dollar question is:Was it real or was it just a hallucination? Well, the fact that hundreds of people have seen the exact same thing (not just something close, but just exact same thing) leads swim to strongly believe that it was not a hallucination,swim has seen drawings that match exactly, exactly what swim saw.... Here's a link with more information as well as drawings of different types of shadow beings if swiy is interested:http://www.ufo2u.com/ also, here's a picture of the same being swim saw http://www.jesusisnojoke.com/sitebui...g.w300h248.jpg It's the "hooded shadow"

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i hope they real bud, cos i love to believe in the other dimensions

[h3artshapedb0x]

SWIM used to see the shadow people all the time when he used to do benadryl but it wasnt a fleeting glimse they were just standing there screaming inside SWIM's head horrible terrifying threats SWIM felt like he was in another demension where he didnt belong and the shadow people (the people of that demension) wanted him out like it was a demension where no mortal should ever be aloud to lay eyes on and the benadryl had transported him there and he had no idea how to get out it was some crazy shit and when they moved it they looked like a black blur then they'd instantly appear like 6 feet away like they could move faster then the human eye could see

[RoboCodeine7610]

Originally Posted by h3artshapedb0x

SWIM used to see the shadow people all the time when he used to do benadryl but it wasnt a fleeting glimse they were just standing there screaming inside SWIM's head horrible terrifying threats SWIM felt like he was in another demension where he didnt belong and the shadow people (the people of that demension) wanted him out like it was a demension where no mortal should ever be aloud to lay eyes on and the benadryl had transported him there and he had no idea how to get out it was some crazy shit and when they moved it they looked like a black blur then they'd instantly appear like 6 feet away like they could move faster then the human eye could see

Where they the short, hooded type or the tall type?Did they have red eyes? And how much diphenhydramine did swiy take?

[sylenth]

Originally Posted by RoboCodeine7610

Where they the short, hooded type or the tall type?Did they have red eyes?

looked at the pics & it looks like a grim reeper which smurf has seen in a inner brain swimming dimension before. interesting from many angles, as ones mind can create all types & sizes if one has already gotten one image from someone else or a image of any being some where. 'the power of suggestion' is a powerful thing, people have seen these things & smurf has been told by a friend of these believed beings. smurf has seen a dog barking frantically at nothing on a spooky farm many years ago that was reported for seeing things by a friend who saw these kind of things from a trap door in his ceiling. 'no drugs,' smurfs fiance also 'saw' this being pearing from behind a door many years ago but she was in to all kinds of dark beliefs & listened to rock back then.

so if these are all linked to these beings, i sure do hope they exist as it can guide us to seeking more proof of other beings existing & perhaps give some kind of hint to there being more beings other than us in different dimensions.

there is a lot of skeptism always with these kind of things cos there can be many influences that cause one to believe in these things causing manifestation. factors to always consider from mindset such as current & past events in their life things like trauma, location, music/culture & beliefs at the time. unfortunetly not everyone can be analysed so the facts presented by every ones reports are very thin.

there are many reported poltergeist activities all over the world which i believe in, from experiencing some mild ones. so i would like to believe your experience with these beings to be real. keep digging.

[h3artshapedb0x]

Originally Posted by RoboCodeine7610

Where they the short, hooded type or the tall type?Did they have red eyes? And how much diphenhydramine did swiy take?

average size about 6 feet tall no hoods or eyes no features at all just a human shape completely black like a shadow standing up and SWIM took 30 25 mg benny tabs

[Desertfox]

Originally Posted by h3artshapedb0x

SWIM used to see the shadow people all the time when he used to do benadryl but it wasnt a fleeting glimse they were just standing there screaming inside SWIM's head horrible terrifying threats SWIM felt like he was in another demension where he didnt belong and the shadow people (the people of that demension) wanted him out like it was a demension where no mortal should ever be aloud to lay eyes on and the benadryl had transported him there and he had no idea how to get out it was some crazy shit and when they moved it they looked like a black blur then they'd instantly appear like 6 feet away like they could move faster then the human eye could see

Something slightly similar to the above also occured to SWIM on a big hit of salvia 10x

[RoboCodeine7610]

Originally Posted by Desertfox

Something slightly similar to the above also occured to SWIM on a big hit of salvia 10x

Please, describe it in more detail.

[RoboCodeine7610]

Swim wants to thank swiy for all the information he's posted here which has been really interesting to swim.swim also wanted to say that, although 'the power of suggestion' IS a really powerful thing, swim had no way of knowing anything about these beings since he was only 10 years old.

Another thing swim would like swiy to post in more detail is this "grim reaper" he's talking about.Under which conditions did swiy see this beings?What was SWIY on?What was the dosage?Also, could swiy post a more detailed description of the being's apperance?

[fiveleggedrat]

Swim has never seen anything like the described herein, but is terrified of actually seeing something like it.

Delirium and hallucinations are very scary subject matter, and Swim avoids overdoing Stims (20 hours, tops!) and doing anything visual.

Swim has always been fearful of unknown entities as a child. Falling into occultism and reading some truly horrifying occult literature does not stand well in the brain either.

[sylenth]

Originally Posted by RoboCodeine7610

Another thing swim would like swiy to post in more detail is this "grim reaper" he's talking about.Under which conditions did swiy see this beings?What was SWIY on?What was the dosage?Also, could swiy post a more detailed description of the being's apperance?

smurf was in his stupid growing up phase with stupid things done with out the knowledge of things & was doing a lot of 'gas huffing'

this grim reaper was seen during smurfs hallucination state's, walking more from the corner of smurfs focus point to almost the centre of smurfs eyes focus point. smurf never saw the eyes as smurf only saw the robe looking outfit & the side of the being.

so could this be some kind of angel of death as one is heading towards dying? or just a hallucination created in the mind? hallucinations on petrol/gas are in a league of their own. not reconmended to any one.

[nate81]

I saw these shadow people as a child. There were two in fact and they appeared to be observing me. Every so often I'd catch them peeking around a corner at me. They would appear when I was NOT thinking of them which kinda makes the imagination thing hard to believe. As an adult I have not really noticed or recognized them but about three weeks ago (no drugs involved) I thought I saw one of them watching me at work. "Checking in" comes to mind.

If these beings are real I do not believe they are strictly malevolent in the demon/angel type of thinking. Mischevious is a better term. I remember from my childhood thinking they were playing a sort of hide and seek with me because I would run after them. Aside from the couple of times I was startled, I never felt in danger and eventually got used to their appearance. If I had to guess, they must have appeared to me about 50 times. I never mentioned them to my strict christian parents. I learned that lesson after sharing my "ghost" dreams (different from the shadow people). I don't think they liked the idea of their house being haunted, even in my dreams, lol.

Edit: I should mention that despite personal experience, I do think this could simply be imagination.

[RoboCodeine7610]

Originally Posted by nate81

I saw these shadow people as a child. There were two in fact and they appeared to be observing me. Every so often I'd catch them peeking around a corner at me. They would appear when I was NOT thinking of them which kinda makes the imagination thing hard to believe. As an adult I have not really noticed or recognized them but about three weeks ago (no drugs involved) I thought I saw one of them watching me at work. "Checking in" comes to mind.

If these beings are real I do not believe they are strictly malevolent in the demon/angel type of thinking. Mischevious is a better term. I remember from my childhood thinking they were playing a sort of hide and seek with me because I would run after them. Aside from the couple of times I was startled, I never felt in danger and eventually got used to their appearance. If I had to guess, they must have appeared to me about 50 times. I never mentioned them to my strict christian parents. I learned that lesson after sharing my "ghost" dreams (different from the shadow people). I don't think they liked the idea of their house being haunted, even in my dreams, lol.

Edit: I should mention that despite personal experience, I do think this could simply be imagination.

How tall were they?Were they the hooded type?

[seeingred]

Swim has never seen a shadow person.

[Rhin]

SWIM came on just so he could make a post about something similar that he saw last night but what happened to him was amazingly mind blowing.

SWIM and his friend were coming home at two in the morning and they were walking in the middle of a field and once they got into the field they both stopped at the exact same time and said "Holy shit do you see that?" SWIMs friend said something similar to that to.

So SWIM kept looking and there was a women who was made out of light, every detail of this woman was light and so we started walking and she started walking towards us and then she disappeared! (SWIM was only a little high and his friend wasn't at all.) So we kept walking and a fog came in and it was thick.

There was fog everywhere except in some places where you could see shadows of people running though. (Not for just 1 second but you would see them run for 4 seconds and then disappear.


Now SWIM doesn't not believe in god but he was looking for something to show him god was real. I don't know if he is but if anything were to convince me of this it would have been that night. This woman was an angel.

[nate81]

It's hard to tell how much of it was my imagination and how much was real (if any). I remember there was a tall, skinny one and a short, fat one. They had hats on which were kinda like tophats. Saying how tall they were is hard to apply because I never had them in the center of my vision. If I had to guess, I'd say the short one was 3-4 feet tall and the tall one was about 5 feet tall (keeping in mind that guess is adult nate estimating a memory from the perspective of child nate).

All of this is coming from 15 year old memories, yet I recognized the short one immediately the other day. It's like recognizing them visually but never actually seeing them with the focused part of the visual field. frankly, I have a hard time believing that it was anything other than childhood games from a bored kid. But when I read this thread the dark people that watched me when I was alone came immediately to mind.

[RoboCodeine7610]

Drugs that people have been on while seeing this beings: Diphenhydramine,inhalants,meth,DXM and even while sober.Someone started a thread in a drugs forum that not a lot of people know about (population wise) and look at how many people have shared the same experiences.
If you ask swim, this is a huge phenomenon that's occurring world-wide.To think that all this people, on all of this different drugs, hallucinated the same thing is crazy.

[nate81]

I wonder if it would be possible to recreate situations where the shadow people have appeared and attempt communication or other interaction.