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Old 12-02-2005, 06:06
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Hey all, I am planning on buying a single RC but not sure which one. I have a very low-paying job and am paying for school as well, which is why I can't afford to buy much, considering I've only found them in bulk. I've never done an RC before or any psychadelic for that matter (well, with the exception of cannabis). My drug use has been pretty restricted to ecstasy, meth, coke, and DXM. The only things I've tried with any OEVs (with exception of sleep deprivation on meth) are diphenhydramine and dimenhydrinate, fortunately which I've heard do not bear much resemblance to psychadelic visuals (they were awful).


One reason I am looking into experimenting with RCs is because I need substances that don't register on standard drug tests, and just having moved into a new area, have no access to illicit substances. I dislike the idea of extreme brevity in a trip (such as the reports I've read on 5-MeO-DMT), but extreme longevity also poses a problem due to work and school issues (such as mid-level dosage reports of 5-MeO-AMT).


I've read a bit on 2C-D, 2C-E, and 2C-I, but I want to make sure the trip is a worthwhile experience, which seems to be a problem in many reports of 2C-D/E I've read. I am not considering 2C-B or 2C-T-7 because of unavailability due to being schedule I in the US (where I reside).


Finally, I need something that'spotential remains positive after repeated usage (same intensity of experiences, same enjoyability), since I will have at least a gram of whatever substance I decide on and will not be able to afford anything else for quite some time.


So far, I've most considered 5-meo-amt and 2c-i. In your personal opinion and why, which would you choose (if for some reason one of the others, that's fine, just please explain why). I realize most people doing RCs have had previous experience with both tryptamines and phenythylamines, so if you have trouble explaining the nature of the experiences to a new user, that's okay.


Thanks for your time and consideration
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Old 12-02-2005, 06:55
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There are many factors in chosing which psychedelic to take on any given occasion. Are you looking for a strictly visual experience, a mental/thinking experience, or a combination of the two?
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Old 12-02-2005, 07:18
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Have you considered growing your own fungus?


Most states spores are legal and there are plenty of simple techs all over the internet.


Psilocybin andpsilocinaren't commonly tested for on drug tests, and the only reason they would be tested for are because they have reason to believe you are using them (the tests are pretty expensive).


FYI standard drug tests are basically comprised of
  1. <LI>Cannabinoids (marijuana, hash)
    <LI>Cocaine (cocaine, crack, benzoylecognine)
    <LI>Amphetamines (amphetamines, methamphetamines, speed)
    <LI>Opiates (heroin, opium, codeine, morphine)
    <LI>Phencyclidine (PCP)</LI>
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Old 12-02-2005, 17:34
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I think 5-MeO-AMT is one of your cheapest good trips if you consider
money... I have not tried this one myself, but 100mg seems to give you
~20 tips... and even more if you snort it, pherhaps 100 times??...



As I know, tryptamines don't register on standard drug test.. and nor
do the most 2C-X's.. myself, I am not aware if I have used any 2C-X.



My favorite legal RC that I have tested so far is AMT (lasts ~7h for
me, but my eyes are dillated for 14-18h)... had to take 40mg of that
one.. unfortunately it isn't legal in USA.



If you want something that doesn't last very long, then I would
reccomend 4-HO-DiPT (lasts 2-3h for me) or 4-AcO-DiPT (lasts 3-4h for
me)... I am not sure yet, but I think i prefer the AcO version... my
eyes don't get dilated from any of these 2 RC... and they feel quite
"soft".. pherhaps even more economical is the MiPT version for you.




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Old 12-02-2005, 18:29
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2C-E is generally considered to be a very worthwhile psychedelic, but
it requires a connoisseur of tripping to truly appreciate it I think.



2C-I has a nice learning curve with a lot of visuals. It has more body
load than 2C-E which sucks at large doses. 2C-I is not the best
psychedelic but it can be interesting.



5-MeO-AMT is interesting from what I've heard. Don't get this one if
you don't own a scale, but it seems like it could be a really
hard/interesting trip.



Good Luck!


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Old 12-02-2005, 23:13
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Since you haven't answered my question. I will just say, that concerning rc's. You would probably want to chose either 2C-I, 2C-E, or iprocin. That is if you can obtain them. Those would probably appreal to you the most in the experience that they provide.
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Old 14-02-2005, 16:55
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4-ho-dipt is very nice body buzz w/ euphoria



2c-t-2 has awesome visuals, and never left my head feeling like crap as
2c-i did. So far its my favorite.. although i have found it lacks
some "psychedelic depth" .. i cant totally immerse myself very
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2-ce is amazing full on visuals with a dose of 15mg so you get about 7 trips of 100mg.

have you thought about buying some sanpedro cacti and tripping on mescaline.

mescaline is superior to all the rc's and doesnt show in a drug test.

you can get cacti of ebay.
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Old 16-02-2005, 22:05
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i haveheard a great load of pros over 2ci


im thinking definately abuot trying 2ci over 5meodmt or amt.


Hopefully this week or next week is when itll happen.


Good luck let us know how it goes!
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Old 21-02-2005, 11:53
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i think so far, the best rc that is still available would be 2c-t-2, its awesome, and i have tried lots of different ones.
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Sofar I like 2C-T-7 and Explosion the most of all RC's. To bad that 2C-T-7 is illegal now.

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where on earth does one get ahold of any of these?



i see that 2c-t-2 is legal, but is it only sold to labs or something?



completely ignorant to this,

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Qish:


My internet source has 2CT-2 for sale at a price of $54.00(USD) per 100mgs. Many RC's can be ordered online from a number of sources, most of which are willing to sell to private individuals for research purposes (not human consumption).
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Old 23-02-2005, 16:41
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If you can spare the time, please expand on the reasons for recommending these drugs (effects, pro's, con's). I would like to know your approx. weight and perfered dose in mgs for 2C-T7, and in viles (Ithink they come in viles) for Explosion.

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msumegi i think i know the site you are talking about. i wont
post names, but have you had luck with them? If this is too much
to ask, sorry.
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