Swim Has A Good Way To Score Adderall

[deekyleeky]

Well swim has always been good at fooling docs for pain meds as well as anything else he wants. Swim went through his adderall phase about 2 years ago, he scammed docs for a year and got scripts from 3 different docs at a time. At the same time, the docs were also prescribing SWIM klonopin (he was already on klonopin) After that SWIM went through his opiate phase, scamming every doctor for a little percocet. Then SWIM did not have insurance anymore and he cooled down for a while. However today, swim said "well I have enough money for a doctors visit, so I think I will give it a go"
So swim made an appointment in the morning for 3pm
When swim got there his story was this he told doctor he had been on adderall for almost 4 years, and he takes (2) 30mg pills a day, also he had been on klonopin for an equal amount of time claiming he takes (2) 1mg pills a day. Now swim has not been on these 2 for quite some time. Next swim said "since I have been on them for so long, I would like to taper off of both of these however I need a a month supply to get me through the end of school" he explained how he does not like the feeling and he wants to be completely free from these drugs. (swim does not want to use this for any longer than a month so this works) The doctor listened to swims story and came up with a plan. She wrote SWIM a script for (60) 30mg adderall as well as (60) 1mg klonopin. She explained to swim that she wanted him to try to take one at the time I usually take them, then try to only take half when the 2nd dose is supposed to be administered. Swim was thinking "YES!" but it wasn't over. Swim had said, he does not have insurance and that he can't afford to see the doctor every month. So... the doctor wrote a script for (60) 20mg adderall (30mg tapered to20mg) also a script for (60) klonopin .5mg (tapered from 1mg) with1 refill. both dated a month from today.
Swim just thought he would share this. I hope swim is not breaking any rules by telling me to type this experience.
This is more or less to show people how east this stuff is. Swim really gets a kick out of doing things like this!

[CorySpaceCowboy]

Swim's doc must be an idiot. She tells him she has a drug problem and he gives her the drugs she claims to have a problem with. I don't think this would work in most cases. I'm pretty sure he could get in serious trouble for that.

[RaverHippie]

SWIM has a hard time reading this from an ethical point of view and staying neutral. Even though we are talking about hypothetical situations that never happened, if someone were to read this and taking it for truth, many people could land themselves in trouble for trying to pry pharmaceuticals from doctors.

Be happy with SWIY's success (conning?) but be wary of sharing the story for the well-being of others.

[deekyleeky]

Well let swim include other points in story, Swim was on concerta when he was a boy, then got switched to adderall also when he was pretty young. Swims parents eventually thought he did not need any of it. So when swim turned 18, he took iy upon himself to get these meds, not only did they help swim accomplish things but also made him feel good. Although you could say SWIM was "acting" but in these days, Swim feels it's what you have to do to get the meds you feel help you. SWIM never went in there and said HE had a problem, what HE said was that HE wanted to taper off the pills because school was almost over and he wanted to start the next year off clean. In these days, it's harder to get meds you think you need without putting on a little bit of an act. It is true, these do help with school, and klonopin is used mainly for sleep. Sorry if this offends people. I guess I wrote it wrong, because my point did not get across

[deekyleeky]

Be happy with SWIY's success (conning?) but be wary of sharing the story for the well-being of others.[/quote]

Whoever has the authority to delete posts/threads. is welcome to delete mine. It came off the wrong way. Please delete. Thank you

[OhCasey]

Youre post was perfect. I hope someone finds it useful, i dont endorse doctor shopping just for the legal trouble it could bring if you got caught but hopefully someone who has a problem can use it to more easily to attain the meds that help. Either way i dont feel sorry for doctors. This site is to help others and spread information i hope this doesnt get deleted as its a valueable experience. Everyone should know that recieveing the same meds from different docs without letting them know that about each other and "knowingly" providing false info to doc isnt legal. There a disclaimer for all you Squares. Dont feel discouraged or reluctant to post your experiences I've seen alot of people on these boards having trouble with getting scripts for legitimate reasons and if a lil acting can help one person recieve treatment for a legitimate problem then its worth 1000 people getting drugs they dont need. Sorry more people on here arent open minded.

[deekyleeky]

Wow. Thank you. Swim is so glad you got it. Swim does not post alot, but when he does he tries to share useful information, but the first 2 responses to this that SWIM got made me think "well maybe I should not have posted swims experience" Swim is no junkie or a speed freak. Most doctors wont prescribe those 2 medication at the same time, unless swim walks in there and plays it right, and knows exactly what to say. Swiy has to feel the doctor out for a second to come up with a good approach, Swim has gotten asshole doctors (reminded him of Dr.House) and had to change his whole story and approach. This time swim was lucky to see a brand new very nice nurse practitioner who asked questions, but Swim knew all the answeres, can't act too smart, can't act overly stupid, swim could maybe bring up a situation if he thinks doctor suspects something, swim could be like, I have been getting these stomach cramps right after my first dose, followed by diarhrea, is that natural? Or swiy could say whatever to focus him on answering your question rather than contemplating whether or not your a drug addict. Anyways swim is rambling on. hope more people think this helps. For any other tips. anyone can message me. THANKS

[staples]

Originally Posted by deekyleeky

Well swim has always been good at fooling docs for pain meds as well as anything else he wants. Swim went through his adderall phase about 2 years ago, he scammed docs for a year and got scripts from 3 different docs at a time. At the same time, the docs were also prescribing SWIM klonopin (he was already on klonopin) After that SWIM went through his opiate phase, scamming every doctor for a little percocet. Then SWIM did not have insurance anymore and he cooled down for a while.

Your insurance payed for three different scripts to a schedule II substance?

Originally Posted by deekyleeky

However today, swim said "well I have enough money for a doctors visit, so I think I will give it a go"
So swim made an appointment in the morning for 3pm
When swim got there his story was this he told doctor he had been on adderall for almost 4 years, and he takes (2) 30mg pills a day, also he had been on klonopin for an equal amount of time claiming he takes (2) 1mg pills a day. Now swim has not been on these 2 for quite some time. Next swim said "since I have been on them for so long, I would like to taper off of both of these however I need a a month supply to get me through the end of school" he explained how he does not like the feeling and he wants to be completely free from these drugs. (swim does not want to use this for any longer than a month so this works) The doctor listened to swims story and came up with a plan. She wrote SWIM a script for (60) 30mg adderall as well as (60) 1mg klonopin. She explained to swim that she wanted him to try to take one at the time I usually take them, then try to only take half when the 2nd dose is supposed to be administered. Swim was thinking "YES!" but it wasn't over. Swim had said, he does not have insurance and that he can't afford to see the doctor every month. So... the doctor wrote a script for (60) 20mg adderall (30mg tapered to20mg) also a script for (60) klonopin .5mg (tapered from 1mg) with1 refill. both dated a month from today.

Why not just tell the truth, or at least as I understand it from your later responses...

Originally Posted by deekyleeky

This is more or less to show people how east this stuff is. Swim really gets a kick out of doing things like this!

You say you actually do need these meds. It's not hard -- as it shouldn't be -- to get meds that one needs.

Originally Posted by CorySpaceCowboy

Swim's doc must be an idiot++

Agreed, That was a particularly shady sounding story.

Originally Posted by deekyleeky

Well let swim include other points in story, Swim was on concerta when he was a boy, then got switched to adderall also when he was pretty young. Swims parents eventually thought he did not need any of it. So when swim turned 18, he took iy upon himself to get these meds, not only did they help swim accomplish things but also made him feel good. Although you could say SWIM was "acting" but in these days, Swim feels it's what you have to do to get the meds you feel help you.

So what's wrong with "I'm having a lot of trouble and I would like to start Adderall again"?

Originally Posted by deekyleeky

In these days, it's harder to get meds you think you need without putting on a little bit of an act.

Why would you have to act in order to be treated for something you believe that you have?

Originally Posted by OhCasey

hopefully someone who has a problem can use it to more easily to attain the meds that help.

This is just what I don't get, why is "acting"" any different than just going in and discussing your problems -- the ones you want a certain med to address?

Originally Posted by OhCasey

I've seen alot of people on these boards having trouble with getting scripts for legitimate reasons

Wait now! this may address my confusion here -- could you provide an example?

Originally Posted by deekyleeky

Most doctors wont prescribe those 2 medication at the same time

Not entirely true.

I feel like the OP has good intentions, but I don't really get the point of "acting" in this case... One time when I missed a psych appointment, I had to reschedule for at least half a month later. I went to a general practice doctor and he wrote me ativan, concerta, ritallin, cymbalta, and ambien prescriptions, no problem, no acting.

[OhCasey]

Originally Posted by staples

Your insurance payed for three different scripts to a schedule II substance?

Ive actually had my insurance fill two scripts at the same time of the same schedule 2 substance from two different docs also a couple times they've filled new 30 day scripts of the same dose and substance 2 weeks before they should. Ive also had times where my insurance makes me wait to the exact day before i could fill my script but either way insurance companies arent always the best at catching what they're supposed too.

Why not just tell the truth, or at least as I understand it from your later responses...
You say you actually do need these meds. It's not hard -- as it shouldn't be -- to get meds that one needs.

Its not always that simple and youd be naive to think that.

Agreed, That was a particularly shady sounding story.

So what's wrong with "I'm having a lot of trouble and I would like to start Adderall again"?

Why would you have to act in order to be treated for something you believe that you have?

This is just what I don't get, why is "acting"" any different than just going in and discussing your problems -- the ones you want a certain med to address?

Theres no set rules that every doctor uses to address who needs medication, they use personal discretion and judgement. As well they should but some people go to the doctor in, for example, pain and the behavior they exhibit looks like the behavior of an addict or "drug seeker" to a doctor. Now they maybe seeking drugs but have never tried drugs before and might just be seeking relief from pain. Anyone who changes or acts differently to appear in worse shape to get some simple meds is justified in my eyes.

Wait now! this may address my confusion here -- could you provide an example?

Go check out the Doctors and poor pain management thread in the opium, opiates & opioids forum. Theres atleast 6 stories in there. You can read "Pain managment (w/o tests)" and "Pain management of addicts" in the same forum to help you uderstand who may benefit from this info and theres alot more where that came from. Im sure that alot of traffic to these forums are from people searching for advice on how to get better or any medication for a problem they may or may not have. A post and thread like this one is very helpful to anyone looking to improve the chances of walking out of the doctors office satisfied.

Not entirely true.

I feel like the OP has good intentions, but I don't really get the point of "acting" in this case... One time when I missed a psych appointment, I had to reschedule for at least half a month later. I went to a general practice doctor and he wrote me ativan, concerta, ritallin, cymbalta, and ambien prescriptions, no problem, no acting.

Good job staples, do want something? This very topic (How to better attain a script) has been gone over on atleast 2 threads in the adderall forum in the last 3 months alone. The poster didnt tell anyone to committ any illegal behavior. This happens to be one of the more well typed reports on the subject. I've said this before but i really believe it, If this thread helps one person attain a script for a medication that helps there life by any means whether it be relief of pain, insomnia, anxiety or just improving quality of life through performance in school then it is worth 1000 people getting their hands on medication they dont need.

[staples]

Originally Posted by OhCasey

Ive actually had my insurance fill two scripts at the same time of the same schedule 2 substance from two different docs also a couple times they've filled new 30 day scripts of the same dose and substance 2 weeks before they should. Ive also had times where my insurance makes me wait to the exact day before i could fill my script but either way insurance companies arent always the best at catching what they're supposed too.

Interesting, would it be too personal to ask which insurance covers you?

Originally Posted by OhCasey

Its not always that simple and youd be naive to think that.

Well, I can see why it would be difficult for pain as you said, but not for the medications mentioned in this thread (Klonnopin and Adderall). Both of these I feel have been pushed on me at some point or another when I didn't even want them.

Originally Posted by OhCasey

Theres no set rules that every doctor uses to address who needs medication, they use personal discretion and judgement.

There is a rhythm to the rhyme though, it's called psychopathology.

Originally Posted by OhCasey

As well they should but some people go to the doctor in, for example, pain and the behavior they exhibit looks like the behavior of an addict or "drug seeker" to a doctor. Now they maybe seeking drugs but have never tried drugs before and might just be seeking relief from pain. Anyone who changes or acts differently to appear in worse shape to get some simple meds is justified in my eyes.

Go check out the Doctors and poor pain management thread in the opium, opiates & opioids forum. Theres atleast 6 stories in there. You can read "Pain managment (w/o tests)" and "Pain management of addicts" in the same forum to help you uderstand who may benefit from this info and theres alot more where that came from. Im sure that alot of traffic to these forums are from people searching for advice on how to get better or any medication for a problem they may or may not have. A post and thread like this one is very helpful to anyone looking to improve the chances of walking out of the doctors office satisfied.

Okay, I can see the point then for opiates... I guess anyone I know who is in any type of chronic pain has parents who are doctors, which is why I didn't really think of this as a problem.

Originally Posted by OhCasey

Good job staples, do want something?

What? Um, an explanation of why acting was necessary in the OP case if it wasn't for me with similar and more drugs, I guess is what it boils down to.

Originally Posted by OhCasey

This very topic (How to better attain a script) has been gone over on atleast 2 threads in the adderall forum in the last 3 months alone. The poster didnt tell anyone to committ any illegal behavior. This happens to be one of the more well typed reports on the subject. I've said this before but i really believe it, If this thread helps one person attain a script for a medication that helps there life by any means whether it be relief of pain, insomnia, anxiety or just improving quality of life through performance in school then it is worth 1000 people getting their hands on medication they dont need.

Generally I guess I agree here...

[OhCasey]

health net

[deekyleeky]

No insurance buddy. SWIM HAS NO INSURANCE. If HES paying 125 or more to see a doc to fill my scripts, SWIM WILL DO WHAT IT TAKES to make it happen. I am not going to take a chance of him saying no. This has happened to SWIM. Plus swim knows the dose he requires. He is not going to get some asshole doctor start him off at 15mg again. I don't see the difference, SWIM feel he need the meds, and this is the easiest way to obtain them, and plus, whatever way swim decides to get these meds, is his own business, honesty doesn't always get you what you need. Swim enjoys knowing he just gave the doc a bogus story, just for the hell of it, to see if it works, and it did. You people are taking this too seriously, I am not sure if it's jealousy, or your maturity telling you how childish something like that is. Meds are meds. If you need them you should get them no questions asked, in between you needing these meds and filling your script, is all BS, so tell the truth if thats your thing, or have a little fun, either way... it is what it is. Just tryin to share info

[staples]

Originally Posted by deekyleeky

No insurance buddy. SWIM HAS NO INSURANCE. If HES paying 125 or more to see a doc to fill my scripts, SWIM WILL DO WHAT IT TAKES to make it happen. I am not going to take a chance of him saying no. This has happened to SWIM. Plus swim knows the dose he requires. He is not going to get some asshole doctor start him off at 15mg again. I don't see the difference, SWIM feel he need the meds, and this is the easiest way to obtain them, and plus, whatever way swim decides to get these meds, is his own business, honesty doesn't always get you what you need. Swim enjoys knowing he just gave the doc a bogus story, just for the hell of it, to see if it works, and it did. You people are taking this too seriously, I am not sure if it's jealousy, or your maturity telling you how childish something like that is. Meds are meds. If you need them you should get them no questions asked, in between you needing these meds and filling your script, is all BS, so tell the truth if thats your thing, or have a little fun, either way... it is what it is. Just tryin to share info

Hm, the temporary doctor I went to, I just told him the doses I was on, it was the truth. It was also a free appointment (after tuition), but I've had friends who get prescription to adderall mailed to them from their general practice physician and never have to go in for an appointment because they're out of town for college...

I can see the argument for getting what SWIY needs, but I don't understand why SWIY then feels particularly good about it? If it's only the case of getting what SWIY needs, shouldn't he feel neutral, as if he didn't lie at all? I can appreciate the info, but it doesn't sound like it's about getting what one needs so much as it is about how one can feel cool and as if he is getting around the system.

[mspen1018]

SWIM has been diagnosed with ADHD and bipolar for almost 20 years and I get rx's of stimulants pushed on me. When you are going off on tangents and topic switching like I do, I guess that helps.

The only medication that is a stimulant that I liked to abuse was the Adderall tablet and I don't get prescribed Adderall for that reason, I am honest with my doctor.

[truth]

SWIM has really good insurance gets everything for 10$. SWIM knows what SWIyou means...

[Solinari]

It is actually quite an interesting story, but i find it hard to believe doctors would go for it without checking the history, it certainly would not work in the UK when the medical records came through.

I have also heard that a lot of doctors in the US (not sure about the UK) have a policy of not prescribing any drugs that could be abused on a first visit. Anyway, what i am doing in the Addreall forum, i must have got lost (thought i'd have a look, can't believe they prescribe this combo of amphetamine salts to kids).

[staples]

Originally Posted by Solinari

It is actually quite an interesting story, but i find it hard doctors would go for it without checking the history, it certainly would not work in the UK when the medical records came through.

At least for me, when switching doctors, I had to sign forms for my medical history to be transfered from one doctor to the next. If I don't say anything, they can't check anything. They may be able to request a background check from the police, I suppose, but that would cost them money...

Originally Posted by Solinari

I have also heard that a lot of doctors in the US (not sure about the UK) have a policy of not prescribing any drugs that could be abused on a first visit.

From experience, I can say that this is not true. Some doctors might, though. I think after people like Tom Cruise made a big deal, or news papers reported more unprescribed use than prescribed use of Adderall, Doctors might become a little more cautious.

Originally Posted by Solinari

Anyway, what i am doing in the Addreall forum, i must have got lost (thought i'd have a look, can't believe they prescribe this combo of amphetamine salts to kids).

Well, I know it was an afterthought but it's actually interesting to note the research that shows that adults who have been treated for ADHD with stimulants since they were kids are less likely to abuse any substances.

[OhCasey]

Originally Posted by Solinari

It is actually quite an interesting story, but i find it hard to believe doctors would go for it without checking the history, it certainly would not work in the UK when the medical records came through.

I have also heard that a lot of doctors in the US (not sure about the UK) have a policy of not prescribing any drugs that could be abused on a first visit. Anyway, what i am doing in the Addreall forum, i must have got lost (thought i'd have a look, can't believe they prescribe this combo of amphetamine salts to kids).

Here in the us if you switch insurance and have referrals to specialist in other offices alot gets lost in the medical records. Alot of times they dont ever get put together. Unless you grew up where you were born and still live there one hospital probably has your birth records another your immunizations records forget it if youve ever seen a private practice surgeon or therapist. Maybe thats just how it is here though cause its a big town.

[AvonBarksdale]

Originally Posted by deekyleeky

"since I have been on them for so long, I would like to taper off of both of these however I need a a month supply to get me through the end of school" he explained how he does not like the feeling and he wants to be completely free from these drugs. (swim does not want to use this for any longer than a month so this works)

From what i've heard, the tapering method is a pretty solid route, despite neigh-sayers. Someone I know told his doctor that he'd been buying Valium on the street to control his anxiety, but he was so afraid of getting caught, and he knows the consequences of stopping any Benzo cold-turkey. The doctor wrote him quite a script w/ refills on which to taper... this seems to work for him because:

-using this method is admitting some form of wrongdoing and guilt to begin with, easing the doctors mind about a random sociopath doctor-shopper
-by admitting you need help to control your anxiety and your medication you show the doctor you have legitimate need for the med and consequences if you don't get the med.

The man told me this had worked everytime for him. He makes a point to use busy clinics during peak-hours of operation.

Interesting what people will do!

AB