Experiences - Super Kratom experiences?

[GDxCAT]

Does anyone have experience with super kratom? The one that is 300mg of alkaloids per 25g.

My main question is what is a strong dose of this?

Also does a tea need to be made or can i just throw it in some OJ?

[BlueMystic]

I havehadsome nicestrong experiences with 15-20 grams of the super kratom. Others have different experiences ranging from really strong to mild to a very stomach churning experience. Everyon's body chemistry and metabolism differs. I would recommend starting at 10 grams and working your way up...Regarding the other question at hand. From both my ands others experiences kratom should be made and consumed as a hot tea or at least chased with hot water or a hot tea. It seems to work alotr better when a hot liquid is applied. Many people have reported little to no effect when done otherwise.

[GDxCAT]

BlueMystic are we talking about the same Kratom?

Im talking about the super kratom which contains 300mg of alkaloids per
25g of plant material as opposed to regular Kratom which is only 65mg
per 25g.

Since i have posted this thread erowid came out with new information on this.

So in case anyone else was wondering:

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<t><tr><td colspan="2"><div ="chart1">Oral Kratom Dosages (dried leaf)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2">Enhanced (Extract Added)</span></td></tr>
<tr><td ="chart2">Threshold</td><td ="chart3">1 gram</td></tr>
<tr><td ="chart2">Light</td><td ="chart3">1-2 grams</td></tr>
<tr><td ="chart2">Common</td><td ="chart3">2-3 grams</td></tr>
<tr><td ="chart2">Strong</td><td ="chart3">3-6 grams</td></tr>
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<t><tr><td colspan="3"><div ="chart1">Oral Kratom Dosages (dried leaf)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="3">Super Grade</span></td></tr>
<tr><td ="chart2">Threshold</td><td ="chart3">1-2 grams</td></tr>
<tr><td ="chart2">Light</td><td ="chart3">2-4 grams</td></tr>
<tr><td ="chart2">Common</td><td ="chart3">3-5 grams</td></tr>
<tr><td ="chart2">Strong</td><td ="chart3">4-8 grams</td></tr>
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<t><tr><td colspan="3"><div ="chart1">Oral Kratom Dosages (dried leaf)</div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="3">Premium Grade</span></td></tr>
<tr><td ="chart2">Threshold</td><td ="chart3">2-4 grams</td></tr>
<tr><td ="chart2">Light</td><td ="chart3">3-5 grams</td></tr>
<tr><td ="chart2">Common</td><td ="chart3">4-10 grams</td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="3">Commercial Grade (low potency)</span></td></tr>
<tr><td ="chart2">Threshold</td><td ="chart3">3-7 grams</td></tr>
<tr><td ="chart2">Light</td><td ="chart3">5-10 grams</td></tr>
<tr><td ="chart2">Common</td><td ="chart3">10-20 grams</td></tr>
<tr><td ="chart2">Strong</td><td ="chart3">20-50 grams</td></tr>
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Onset : </span>5-15 minutes</span>


Duration : </span>2-5 hours</span>


Normal After Effects : </span>3-6 hours</span>

[panchovilla]

Super Strength powdered kratom is the bomb.*

[sands of time]

That is the typical kratom that I purchase. 1 tablespoon boiled in 20 ounces of water is a typical dose for me. This week I have been consuming kratom daily, about 2-3 times a day and I built a quick tolerance. It takes about 2.5 tablespoons to give me a normal strength experience. I'm taking a 1 week break so my tolerance should go back down. This strength kratom is effective if eaten, but boiling into water will give better effects.

[panchovilla]

I guess I will have to try boiling some then. I think it would taste good in a tea.





Sands of Time do youboil it for a while or just steep it with tea???

[sands of time]

The tea doesn't taste good. It's not hard to get used to though, and if you get good you know how much water to add to balance the taste out. I generally boil the mixture for 20 minutes and strain. If I have alot of plant material, I will reboil the material in a small amount of water. I repeat untill the resulting liquid's color is light green.

[William_Again]

are you using powdered or the actual leaf when you make the tea? If its the powdered, isn't it hard to strain?

[sands of time]

I use very finely ground powder. The powder is ideal for making tea and you would be suprised how easy it is to filter. I used a plastic coffee filter but anything with cheese cloth is good for filtering. The strained tea will have a small amount of finely ground kratom at the bottem however.

[panchovilla]

Would storing superkratom powderin therefridgerator make it stay fresh and stronger longer? I think that works for alot of stuff.

[panchovilla]

The tea taste good to me. What I don't understand is that people say that don't think kava tasted bad, but kratom does. I am the extreme opposite kava almost makes me gag,but the kratom tea tastes good to me excpescially the stuff I just made with premium powder and sugar. hmmmmmm hmmmmm good.

[Lacognac69]

so is kratom a stimulating kind of drug or what. I have heard it compared to opium and people have called it an opium substitue, but opium doesn't really have stimulating effects. Some people have told me its supposed to be kind of a mix of relaxant and stimulant, so im not really how true that is. Either way it sounds like it is worthwhile to try.

[GDxCAT]

Low doses of kratom are stimulating while the higher doses are more sedating like opioids.

[sands of time]

panchovilla, storing in a refridgerator would probably help to keep the material fresh, but I don't. I find that the material will be fine if it is left out for up to a month, probably much longer if it is completely dried out. As for the tea, it would be a good idea to refridgerate it, but it will only last about 1 week.

Lacognac69, Kratoms effects are unique in that the first hour of the buzz is stimulating, while the following hour is sedating. High doses of kratom will result in quick sedation which can be very powerful.

[QGdoxl]

what does a too high dose feel like I am getting 1g of 20:1 for $25
just want to know what to expect? if I accidently use too much of the
extract

[sands of time]

I would recommend you stay away from the extracts, many are fake or much weaker than they say. They also taste awful. I have had one time in which I consumed about 60 grams of super strength kratom and let me say, it is not worth the hangover!!! The hangover will make you feel worse than an alcohol hangover, much worse! The high was nice, you don't care about a thing, you just wanna lay down and you feel like you are floating. The thing about it, though, is that you mind feels like it's turned off, you don't really even feel that great cause your mind is just goin blah... I would not recommend it at all.

[waxhorse]

Low doses of Kratom is stimulating the way 2-3 beers is stimulating after a hard day of work.


The stuff I got is finely ground. I don't even filter it. Just toss it back with the liquid. Sure, it tastes bad...but after drinking Aya and Pedro tea...this stuff is kid stuff!


Super Kratomworks in me at 3-5 grams.And personally, sleep kind of sucks when coming down.

[sands of time]

Yea, I noticed this about sleep as well. When coming down, the best I can achieve is a very peaceful half sleep, half awake state. I find that if I drink the tea at 5 P.M. I can sleep very easily at about 9, but if I have it at 7 P.M., I tend to have alot of trouble sleeping at about 10 P.M., even though I may feel tired.

[panchovilla]

I have been taking vitamin B12, B6, and folic acid and Kratom ofcourse and been having extremely interesting dreams. The vitamins alone made me remeber my dreams when I first started taking them, but not as much after I took them for a while. If you like to remember your dreams take B vitamins in combination with Kratom and if you could catch some cool dreams.

[Emperiorjack]

Im experiencing a reverse tolerance with kratom. I take kratom in a
oral form in size 0 capsules. When i started i was taking 12 capsules.
Now im taking 2-3 Capsules.

[QGdoxl]

I was thinking gel caps too but somebody suggested that I boil it and drink the tea instead.



you find it better to just eat the gels? or have you tried tea?

[Emperiorjack]

Originally Posted by QGdoxl

I was thinking gel caps too but somebody suggested that I boil it and drink the tea instead.



you find it better to just eat the gels? or have you tried tea?

I've never tried tea but i have tried dumping the plain powder in juice
and it was pretty nasty tasting. I like doing the gel caps because its
so much easier to take.

[sands of time]

Originally Posted by Emperiorjack

Im experiencing a reverse tolerance with kratom. I take kratom in a
oral form in size 0 capsules. When i started i was taking 12 capsules.
Now im taking 2-3 Capsules.*

When I first tried kratom, I got no effects other then a feeling of warmth about 1 hours later. I tried it about 3 days later and got the full effects from a normal dose.

[bogumil]

i tried kratom for the first time today 5 gr. commercial, and had no effects at all except bad feeling inthe stomach. maybe it was bad quality or not real karatom at all, maybe i just didnt take enough.

[panchovilla]

From what I have experienced and read you have to get the Premium Super Strength Instant powder to get effects with five grams. And you can't eat the extract and expect anything. the extract isfor boiling in a tea not smoking or eating. The Super strenght powder is the stuff you are supposed to eat mixed with nectar or apple sauce or whatever.