Question Regrading Varying Intensity Of Visuals From X Amount of Extract

[DividedReality]

Hello, I hope this isn't posted somewhere else, as I couldn't find an answer to my question using the search.
I only recently started using Slavia and have only experienced 60x (yes I was stupid and tryed an insane extract for my first time) and was wondering if the intensity of the visuals will be any less with a lower extract? I relize this varies from person to person but for myself I have smoked the 60x 3 times, having mind blowing visuals each time, but they are lasting very, very, short.
The first time was about 1/20th of a gram, the second time was about 1/25th to a 30th, and the same for my 3rd time.
I feel I am having a difficult time learning how to "walk around" and truely experience the vision because of the intensity of it. For exsample my thrid time I was a zipper and some giant human was zipping me up... after I reached the persons chin I opened my eyes and I had no more visuals, this is how fast they are ending. Could a lower extract allow me to trip longer but without it being as intense as this?
I have ordered a gram of just the dried leaf and am going to experiment with that a bit, and hopefully I will be able to increase the length of the effects and learn how to be able to interact with the more intense visuals later.
I feel I am going into the trip well, and am not freaking out when I have these visions, but I would love to be able to interact with what I am given better in them, if you understand what I mean?
As it is, the gravitation powers are so strong with the 60x that all I can do is lie down with my eyes closed, and it would be cool if I could have my eyes opened and be able to interact on some level with the people around me.

[RaverHippie]

There's usually nothing that can be done to extend the trip. It's naturally short. Interaction is usually out of the question since it's such a personal experience.

[DividedReality]

Originally Posted by RaverHippie

There's usually nothing that can be done to extend the trip. It's naturally short. Interaction is usually out of the question since it's such a personal experience.

Hello RaverHippie, thanks for such a fast response. So by what you are saying, even if I increased the amount I smoked from say 1/20th of a gram to 1/15th it probaly wouldn't extend the length of it? Or is this impossible to say sense it varies so much?

[RaverHippie]

Length isn't really affected by dose, just intensity. And as far as intensity goes, I'm not sure 100%, but I believe once you "break through" there really isn't any more intensity to achieve.

It would probably be best to browse the stickied information threads for the best answer, there's a wealth of information there.

[DividedReality]

Originally Posted by RaverHippie

Length isn't really affected by dose, just intensity. And as far as intensity goes, I'm not sure 100%, but I believe once you "break through" there really isn't any more intensity to achieve.

It would probably be best to browse the stickied information threads for the best answer, there's a wealth of information there.

I see, thanks for explaining what you know about it. I am very glad there are these kind of fourms online as there are hardly any people that use Salvia where I live in the US. Once I recive the leaf x1, I'll try to use the quid method, and see if I can extend the length at all.

[DividedReality]

After a little thought (I always try to meditate on any visuals I recive when doing Shamanistic work, and so also with the Slavia) I wonder if the reason why I thought I was a zipper was related one of my windows were opened unknowingly to me when I started to smoke. I was pretty chilly when I came out of it, and I was warm before smoking it.
So I wonder if I was out of it longer then I thought then, but only remember coming out of it. I'll have to time myself the next time I go under i guess

[RaverHippie]

Yeah, it's kind of like dreams span a long distance as far as events that happen during the dream, but you're only dreaming for about 30 seconds total.

[DividedReality]

RaverHippie I would give you a rep boost but relized I can't cause I'm a nub

[RaverHippie]

Don't worry. In no time you'll become a silver member and you will be able to edit posts and give reputation points. Just don't forget about self-incrimination. Refer to yourself as SWIM (someone who isn't me) whenever talking about the use of any substance, be it legal or not, because it's quite possibly illegal for someone browsing this forum.

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/misc.php?do=cfrules

[DividedReality]

After using 60x, standard leaves, and 10x extract, swim can explain some of the differences. Swim is sure someone with different body chemistry could in fact have very different results but these are what happened for swim.
When smoking the high extract of 60x, swim would use less material so ultimately the same amount of salvinorum A would be used, but sense this could be done in one hit that could take 4-5 hits of standard leaf, your taking in more salvinorum A at one time. As for the leaf and lower extracts, more hits were required for the same amount of sal A. so it took SLIGHTLY longer to get into the bloodstream.
With the normal leaf swim was actually able to play with normal reality and an altered reality, and could differentiate between the two. Any alterior noises such as a car horn honking, or someone talking loudly could shatter the alternate reality. It was almost like the physical mind could find irregularities between the two realitys when this happened, and would snap out of the altered one. The visuals could actually last for 5 mintues if swim was not disturbed.
When taking the 60x, normal reality was completely shattered in about 30 seconds, and swim was left with only the altered one and a huge unknown, such as who am I, and where am I. As long as swim was relaxed and clam when going into the trip of 60x, it would be very enjoyable. This would last at most 30 seconds however, as the Salvinorum A must of left the bloodstream faster.
This is all the visual part of the trip, swim always feels more after the visuals end, such as euphoria, or a "wetness" like swim was swiming. Sometimes swim would even feel the same emotions of something that happened in his past.
Regradless of what swim uses in tersm of strength, swim always opens sacred space before hand, as swim strongly belives you alter your consenseness to be able to percive differnt realitys or perceptions of reality.