Any good suggestions for an opiate combination?

[johnsonbiscuit]

Specifically with morphine although any suggestions welcome.

Also anything with mdma? How would you think MDMA + Morphine would go and how would you time/dose it?

Has anyone tried mdma + small dose of 2cb and taken together?

Any advice for a combination of mdma and LSD? dosage of each (assuming an average strength tab of acid containing 100ucg LSD)

Oh and for the record i did UTFSE but nothing great in there. Morphine only got a mention in a handful of posts

Thanks

[Dole654]

An agonist with an agonist.

MDMA and Morphine scares me... It would probably be ok with a low dose, but IMHO, it screams seizures.

2CB and MDMA sounds crazy as shit - I want a report if SWIY tries it... again, with everything, be careful.

MDMA and LSD is a great time, as long as serotonin storm doesnt set in....
Again, just go low dose. A roll or two and a tab, or a tab or two and a roll.
SWIM wouldn't dose them together though, one after the other in whatever order... just SWIM's opinion though, can see simultaneously dosing being absurdly amazing and ridiculous...

[heroin_ed]

Dexedrine and OxyContin.

[Kernacktur]

SWIM would probably recommend just weed and your opiate of choice. It's relatively safe and very relaxing. Only problem would be possibly falling asleep.
MDMA and opiates is a kind of speedball. VERY euphoric but EXTREMELY dangerous.

[drug-bot]

Originally Posted by Kernacktur

SWIM would probably recommend just weed and your opiate of choice. It's relatively safe and very relaxing. Only problem would be possibly falling asleep.
MDMA and opiates is a kind of speedball. VERY euphoric but EXTREMELY dangerous.

Originally Posted by wearestardust

I have to say that the combination of heroin and cocaine can be extremely dangerous and is not to be recommended except by those with little regard for their health
.

swim smells uninformed, myth regurgitating bullshit. theres nothing wrong with mixing the 2, mdma effects serotonin while opiates of course effects the opiate receptors, theirs no pharmacological danger. swim and many swims friends have tried it and enjoy it.

its nothing like a speed ball, even if it where if done in small amounts that isnt that dangerous either (no huge negative pharmacologgical interaction). the biggest myth about the speedball is that it takes your body in 2 different dirrections at one time and thats why a person can die, its bullshit. the main danger and cause of most deaths attributed to speedballing are that a person may end up od'ing on the opiate because the coke makes you feel stimulated so they think they can handle more opiates and inject more and od. the opposite can also happen the opiate makes the person so relaxed they think they can handle more coke and proceed to inject a toxic amount.

[Kernacktur]

Originally Posted by drug-bot

swim smells uninformed, myth regurgitating bullshit. theres nothing wrong with mixing the 2, mdma effects serotonin while opiates of course effects the opiate receptors, theirs no pharmacological danger. swim and many swims friends have tried it and enjoy it.

its nothing like a speed ball, even if it where if done in small amounts that isnt that dangerous either (no huge negative pharmacologgical interaction). the biggest myth about the speedball is that it takes your body in 2 different dirrections at one time and thats why a person can die, its bullshit. the main danger and cause of most deaths attributed to speedballing are that a person may end up od'ing on the opiate because the coke makes you feel stimulated so they think they can handle more opiates and inject more and od. the opposite can also happen the opiate makes the person so relaxed they think they can handle more coke and proceed to inject a toxic amount.

MDMA aka


Methylenedioxymethamphetamine


note the "methamphetamine" at the end.

Some effects include

• Increased physical energy
• Increased heart rate and blood pressure
• Increased mean body temperature
• decreased appetite

sounds like a stimulant to me

[drug-bot]

Originally Posted by Kernacktur

MDMA aka


Methylenedioxymethamphetamine


note the "methamphetamine" at the end.

Some effects include

• Increased physical energy
• Increased heart rate and blood pressure
• Increased mean body temperature
• decreased appetite

sounds like a stimulant to me

reread the post swim never said it wasnt a stimulant, only stated theres no pharmacological danger mixing it with an opiate, if you have any evidence to counter this then swim is all ears.

Originally Posted by Panthers007

Mixing stimulants with CNS depressants puts a lot of strain on the heart-muscles. You don't want to do this. Remember John Belushi? It killed him. We don't want any SWIMmer's going there in the near future.

in large amounts its definetly dangerous, but in moderate amounts its really not that unsafe physically, also the 'strain on the heart muscle' (although anyone with pre-exsisting heart problems shouldnt speedball, let alone take cocaine by itself) isnt the larges cause of most deaths attributed to speedballing.

also keep in mind, though swim forgot to put it in his earlier post, is that mu agonists (like heroin) can intesify the effects of cocaine so one would be wise to inject less coke in a speedball than one would inject by itself. here a qoute from swim earlier in this post-

the main danger and cause of most deaths attributed to speedballing are that a person may end up od'ing on the opiate because the coke makes you feel stimulated so they think they can handle more opiates and inject more and od. the opposite can also happen the opiate makes the person so relaxed they think they can handle more coke and proceed to inject a toxic amount.

heres a post from wikipedia confirming that-

This is a .potentially lethal concoction: the cocaine acts as a stimulant, raising the pulse, but its effects wear off more quickly than those of either heroin or morphine, which in turn slow the heart down. As a result, it is possible to experience a delayed "overdose" (technically, severe respiratory depression) when the stimulant wears off and the full effects of the morphine are felt in isolation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedball_(drug) it clealy states most causes of death is most likely taking to much heroin (or other opiate) resulting in a delayed overdose, the oppisite could also be true (even thou wikipedia dosent mention it) taking to much coke resulting in a toxic dose, swim is trying to refind the source so he can also post it.

another thing to remember is that in cases of cocaine overdoses hospitals give doses of benzodiazipines (mostly interveinous) to help with the agitation, and benzos are a cns depressant, and this combination is not dangerous, so one would be hard pressed to find why much lower doses of cocaine mixed with opiates (also cns depressants) would be partically dangerous. -

Cocaine overdose is treated as a medical emergency. Sedation with agents such as diazepam (Valium) is recommended for the agitation, irritability, seizures, and hyperexcitable state. This also helps control the rapid heart rate and elevated blood pressure.

http://apma-nc.com/PatientEducation/...e_overdose.htm

its all about not over doing it and doing safe doses, swims not completly ignoring potential cardiovascular problems but only stateing they are overblown and not such a huge danger as they are made out to be, and that speedballing can be done safely if done in right dose, of course swim suggests no illegal activities.

[W!SE]

friend of swim's had an unnatural reaction after a dose of mdma + 4 hours later 1 roxicodone (30mg oxy no time release)

wouldnt try it if the bean is speedy that increased the chances of the unnatural reaction swim would think..

the amphet/opiate mix is very pleasant..always a good experience for swim.

[tryptamaster]

swim is gonna hAve to second the opiate plus weed combo.

[chilling]

Morphine and Xanax.
Swim like opaite and benzo combos.

[Spare Chaynge]

All these are very dangerous. Morphine and mdma. Swim would imagine that your heart would probably be very confused and nothing good could come from it. A lot of people die from combination's of upper and downers.

swim once used 2c-e, mescaline and mdma together.

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[cra$h]

morphine is such a clean high, don't know why you would want to mix it, but roboing wouldn't be a bad idea. interesting experienc. swim has always wanted to pop a couple painkillers and shroom, but that's one hell of an expensive night. but opiates do go great with weed, maby small amounts of alchohol. a couple joints of salvia leaf would be very relaxing, and even a salvia trip would be cool.

[Spare Chaynge]

swim took shrooms once and about three hours into it he came across 40 mg of oxycodone he fell asleep shortly after.. it was a waste.. this also could have something to do with the keg swim had gotten in anticipation of a house party he planned on having ,that never happened so him and his 4 friends put it in the back of the car and ended up just cruising from house to house with it... hahaha

[Kernacktur]

SWIM remembers trying morphine and tramadol together quite a while ago.
The tramadol doesn't do much by itself but it deffinately kicks up the morphine.
Not too sure on how dangerous this is though

[beena]

These days SWIM takes crack-cocaine and heroin together (which, I think is basically called speedballing) and then continues to use heroin and drink cheap cider long into the night after the crack has gone.....wouldn't reccommend starting this to anyone who isn't already doing it though....
In fact SWIM wishes she had never started with the heroin 'cos some of the best nights she ever had were spent alone in her living room, on the computer - listening to music and daydreaming, having drank a 2.5 litre bottle of cider followed by 450mg of morphine (MST). SWIM didn't know of the dangers of mixing alcohol and opiates at the time and by the time she found that out it was too late cos this was her ritual and she couldn't do one without the other. SWIM thinks the reason she survived and was basically quite safe was because the amount of alcohol she consumed was just enough to get her a bit 'merry' - she never got wasted as such from the alcohol. Also, she'd always start by taking just 60ml of morphine, wait a couple of hours before taking the rest (always between 15 and 20 30mg pills). Since getting into heroin in a big way, she hasn't been able to reach a high like that she achieved with the morphine and alcohol.
Tramadol and morphine aren't a bad combo either if you're not that used to taking opiates...a hardcore opiate user won't get much effect from tramadol though - might prolong the effect of the morphine though.....
Benzo's are also supposed to prolong the effects of the morphine, possibly enhance them too, but as with alcohol mixing downers is always risky.....SWIM would suggest always being a little cautious - SWIM's drug worker gave her a good bit of advice actually: treat every time that you use drugs as if its your first time - the reason for this is that most overdoses are amongst experienced users who think they know what they're doing and get careless - first time users tend to be really careful in regard to what and how much they take.

[JaWill88]

swiy could just try powder cocaine with the morphine. an old fashioned, non injectable speedball. crack may be a little intense if swiy hasn't already done it but swim thinks it's not worth it in the long run (swim used to inject heroin and cocaine or smoke crack with it).

[infekt]

swim has done heroin and e before, though swim isn't so sure that his e was pure mdma, more like a meth bomb. the combination wasn't all that great, but maybe because swim was a heroin addict and just used heroin to get back to "normal".

[wearestardust]

I have to say that the combination of heroin and cocaine can be extremely dangerous and is not to be recommended except by those with little regard for their health.
Opiates and benzodiazepines do however go very well together, so long as the dosages are kept within reason. Carisoprodol can potentiate this combination.
WAS

[Panthers007]

Mixing stimulants with CNS depressants puts a lot of strain on the heart-muscles. You don't want to do this. Remember John Belushi? It killed him. We don't want any SWIMmer's going there in the near future.

[Mammon]

A friend went down the pub, drank loads, had 4 e's then chased a few dragons at a friend's house. He said he just felt hot and extremely wasted. He had to lie down for an hour or two and afterwards said he'd of had better time with either the e's or smack on its own; the combo was just a bit much.

He admits, though, that drinking loads of booze probably wasn't the greatest idea.

[Mutil]

Swim would imagine that combining with pot, and maybe a little cocaine every so often to stay awake would be great.

throw a hallucinogen into the mix and who knows what could happen...

[beena]

A couple of weeks ago (at least) SWIM was smoking crack-cocaine with her boyfriend, another friend (of sorts - he's also a drug-dealer, so SWIM has a problem with calling him a friend outright) and another acquaintence (someone they'd known for a long time and may or may not be called/be a friend). They were all smoking crack. They all smoke crack regularly.
SWIM and her boyfriend had a twenty bag of H to use to comedown from the crack. The drug-dealing friend doesn't touch the stuff but the other old friend/acquaintance was keeping a close eye on the proceedings, so SWIM (trying to be friendly) asked if he wanted some. What she should've asked (but didn't) was if he'd done it b4. He was well up for it and SWIM assumed it was something he regularly partook in so went ahead and racked him up a big motherfucking line (SWIM and bf don't inject they snort it). Next thing he was in the toilet puking. At that point drug-dealer friend dropped into the conversation that said friend had never took H b4. SWIM was not pleased. Next thing man appeared from toilet pouring with sweat, pale as a ghost, eyes-rolling to the back of his head. Shit! SWIM was convinced he was a goner....SWIM was convinced he was going to die.
SWIM is gonna do what she does and look after her and boyfriend but when it comes to friends and others (anyone whose drug consumption she is unsure about) she will certainly not be encouraging them....

[thebige]

Swim could just enjoy the morphine alone ...........that would be nice.

[blackdb1]

Swim NEVER felt greater euphoria than 40mgs of oxycodone powder mixed with a 1/4 gram cola line, HOWEVER THIS WAS WHEN SWIM USED BOTH SUBSTANCES FREQUENTLY AND HAD A HIGH TOLERANCE!!! Swim WOULD NOT reccomend it to those who haven't tried it!!!

Swim also used to indulge in a combo of 40-60mgs of oxycodone insuflated and 6mgs of alprazolam taken orally for a GREAT time!!! AGAIN NOT SAFE FOR THE INTOLERANT!!!

[fiveleggedrat]

Swim enjoys a decent benzo dose (not nearly enough for amnesia) and some strong opiates. Welcome to Nod city! Too bad Nodding with benzos makes
Swim much more likely to fall asleep.