Effects - Any mind-altering effects during high?

[kinai]

Does cocaine involve any mind-altering effects during the high? Not talking long term psychosis or anything. For example, alcohol lowers inhibitions.. leads to bad judgment, etc. While high on cocaine, does it make swiy think any differently? (besides the euphoria, dopamine aspect). Thanks in advance (couldn't find anything on the search.. if there's a thread already on this please let swim know).

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Interesting question

[SWIMming]

Increased libido for a lot of people.

For most people a GREATLY increased sense of self-confidence (especially early in the esperience). SWIM has heard it described as a degree of 'invincibility' or 'godhood'.

Some loss of inhibitions, in a very different way than alcohol. Far more clearminded, kinda goes in hard with the confidence/godhood aspects.

Increased socialbility.

Increased aggression in some people.

Paranoia.

Increased Concentration.

Combinations of the above psychological effects can lead to greatly increased efforts at 'hooking up' (libido, confidence, concentration, socialbility), insane amounts of talking, and the possibility of getting into the occasional fight that SWIY has absolutely no chance of winning, and wouldn't even contemplate while not under the influence...

Most of the above info SWIM got from anecdotal eveidence, primarily erowid.

Peace

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Good answers

[sweetsweetmary]

For the most part swiy should be alright while just on coke. But if you add alcohol, which most folks do, this is when stupid decisions are made. It mixes with the alcohol to create a different drug altogether and creates a total mess. Cocaine by itself? Probably Paranoia.

[anony]

Originally Posted by sweetsweetmary

For the most part swiy should be alright while just on coke. But if you add alcohol, which most folks do, this is when stupid decisions are made. It mixes with the alcohol to create a different drug altogether and creates a total mess. Cocaine by itself? Probably Paranoia.

couldn't have put it better....

[kinai]

Thanks for the replies so far. I guess I'm just wondering in terms of how swiy sees life, goals, decisions, etc. while high (or even in between highs). My friend has a drinking and cocaine problem and has decided to stop drinking.. has gone to several AA meetings, etc. and is very excited about quiting alcohol - he knows he can't truly commit to the program bc of his using tho. He doesn't think he's ready to stop using cocaine (or even wants to stop). I know alcohol (even while not drunk.. if drinking is a habitual thing) clouds your thinking to where you wouldn't be as logical, rational, or smart about your life choices as you used to be when completely sober. I'm just wondering if my friend's continuous using will continue any clouded thinking in general.

[TMM]

If it didn't have any mind-altering effects, there wouldn't be any effects at all.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Coke is an ugly drug.Not the tranquil beauty of opiates.Coke is masculine and cruel,opiates are feminine and kind.

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	maybe but condoning another. yeah thats really smart
	Well stated and very true.

[tip]

Swim had a friend that was a part time hooker and was working for a high class establishment. Most of these types of girls usually are part time uni students needing money. Then around a year ago the establishment got a piece of shit old coke head receptionist from the seedy areas. She immediately brought in all her mates from her shit hole she use to work at. She would arrange bookings for her piece of shit clients without the girls consent. Things eventually got soo bad they would physically drag these girls in to rooms and force the girls to start doing coke, this bitch and her dealers friends would hold the girls down and inject them with coke or ice to get them addicted and try to turn them in to low bag coke whores, so her shit bag coke dealer mates could have girls to do lines with. Most of these shit bags would take 3 hours to get it up then rape the girls once they finaly got it up. She promised them big money to do these jobs, money they never saw! Now this bitch was getting a life time supply of free coke for supplying these heap of shit clients with the best girls in the city. This bitch was caught once or twice but has contacts with local police and is friends with rich coke heads. Needless to say lots of people want this bitch dead.

Any mind-altering effects during high? Super self centeredness and total lack of respect for there victims. No different from a serial killer in swims eyes. Cocaine manifested in a human form.

[The_Tortured_Soul]

Originally Posted by Orchid_Suspiria

Coke is an ugly drug.Not the tranquil beauty of opiates.Coke is masculine and cruel,opiates are feminine and kind.

Couldn't have said it better.

[Alicia]

swia used to love cocaine she uses the words "used to"

as once cocaine is used once the joy is there afterwards its nothing really a jus a nuisance head high. we only used it for sex i found more so then anything, she always hated the rage states it seemed to cause her to get into. more so then alochole in that regard.

The only time she was happy using cocaine was in a syringe along side pure heroin. or on her partners tongue going into my ... ohh yeah for sex too..

Other then that its pointless.
makes people delusional and ruins personalities of lovely people. opiates were always more rewarding. even green is far better then coke but its a personnel thing.

[tip]

It’s a shame the Cola is in your face everywhere you go, not like K or CID. Good things are hard to find but the garbage is everywhere. Why does everyone worship coke??

Coke is only good for mixing with H.

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So true.

[Alicia]

Originally Posted by tip

It’s a shame the Cola is in your face everywhere you go, not like K or CID. Good things are hard to find but the garbage is everywhere. Why does everyone worship coke??

Coke is only good for mixing with H.

its jus an image thing, along side dick-sizing , laughs talking shit quickly and lots of i can better then you, then if too much cardic arrest or impotence in men. not to mention psychosis..

least with opiates they kill you far more nicely iits just like falling a sleep with cushions around with no fears. jut a long permanent sleep. thats when the dragon catches.

[The_Tortured_Soul]

SWIM doesn't really hate the drug cocaine, per say. SWIM just hates that most cocaine is such shitty quality. Assuming SWIM could get some cocaine that was like 80% purity or something good like that, and the price was lets just say reasonable and SWIM had the spare chunk of cash then SWIM'd say "fuck yeah, lets shoot some coke." But SWIM loves opiates and cocaine will never compete with opiods.

[frenchywife]

Originally Posted by The_Tortured_Soul

I don't really hate the drug cocaine, per say. I just hate that most cocaine is such shitty quality. Assuming SWIM could get some cocaine that was like 80% purity or something good like that, and the price was lets just say reasonable and I had the spare chunk of cash then SWIM'd say "fuck yeah, lets shoot some coke." But SWIM loves opiates and cocaine will never compete with opiods.

SWIM couldn't agree more - except for the opiates part - not SWIM's cup of tea.

[Fight Club]

NIK thinks the euphoric effects of coke change as the dosage increases. Small intranasal doses provide a mild euphoria combined with moderate stimulation. As dosage increases, especially with smoking, and at even higher doses with IVing coke is like a different drug. NIK's favorite analogy is that snorting is like riding a bike, smoking is like riding in a fast car, and IVing is like trying to hang on to a rocket ship.

When NIK used to IV coke, he would feel a wave of euphoria rush over him in 5 - 10 seconds that would intensify for a minute or so before it subsided. When he pushed the limits, he would feel dizzy, and the world would start rocking back and forth, his vision would narrow, and both his heart and breathing were rapid and shallow. He is unable to describe the bliss he felt after his first big fat shot of a session.

NIK quit doing this 2 years ago because the risks outweighed the benefits, and addiction became a real problem in NIK's day-to-day life, so he doesn't recommend this practice to anyone.

FC