what to do with all these Percs?

[coyote007]

swim was administered 8mg IV Dilaudid 6x a day for a few months. now swim is perscribed Percocet 10/325 (120) and they are completely ineffective, even when taking 12 at a time. Swim knows that is the daily limit for APAP. Is there any method or amount that will allow swim to enjoy these? Tagamet, grapefruit & Tums don't help either.

[trptamene]

CWE if one is gonna take this many percs
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52325

This will let one be able to up the dose such that the apap is not a problem, but if one is used to IV hydromorph i dunno if its feasable to enjoy these.

[bineon]

Perhaps you could try, for your dog's sake, the following:
1. Grapefruit Juice (that you or your dog juices yourself) 2 hours before administering to your dog.
2. Not feeding your dog until this (empty stomach)
3. Definitely cold-water-extraction =]

[jok3r]

well they might be time release capsules. check the bottle or package... which means the pill wont dissolve immediately in your stomach, but in fact really slowly. SWIM recommends another method, possibly sniffing, or parachuting. if not then SWIY has a crazy immunity haha

[RaverHippie]

Originally Posted by jok3r

well they might be time release capsules. check the bottle or package... which means the pill wont dissolve immediately in your stomach, but in fact really slowly. SWIM recommends another method, possibly sniffing, or parachuting. if not then SWIY has a crazy immunity haha

CWE should be the only option considering the amount of APAP and the tolerance of the given case.

[OhCasey]

Originally Posted by jok3r

well they might be time release capsules. check the bottle or package... which means the pill wont dissolve immediately in your stomach, but in fact really slowly. SWIM recommends another method, possibly sniffing, or parachuting. if not then SWIY has a crazy immunity haha

They are not time release or Capsules. They are Ir Since thats they only way they make percs and tablets.

[jok3r]

Lol my b. I am not good with painkillers. But hey i just learned something new. I am still curious though... can you build up an immunity for a drug that can basically block it off?

SWIM has built up an immunity for CCC. Started off taking 8 and ended up having to take 24 just to get a decent trip. Perc and DxM are pretty different.

[bineon]

You should tell SWIY that triple-cs also contain Chlorpheniramine Maleate which, in high doses, causes bleeding from places you never thought possible, and death.

[The_Tortured_Soul]

DXM used to be fun, but never in Triple C form. SWIM used to have 25grams of pure DXM. Opiates are the best.

[JJx23]

12, 10 mg perks do nothing for SWIM? That seems a bit hard to believe. Oxycodone is very potent, especially 10 mg perks, so I don't really know what to say to that. I drink milk and then take my meds and they make me really loopy, so try that? What are all of these methods you all are mentioning here? Cold-Water Extraction?

Regards.

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Obviously not aware of how high the tolerance becomes for a junkie.

[Ididnotinhale]

10 perks doing nothing is not that suprising, very similar to swim.
If swiy can find some type of benzo try that along with them, but be very very careful and start with a low dose of both because they synergistically in lowering your breathing and heart rate.

Also, the most effective way other than injecting opiates is to:
After taking a crap or using an enema.(yep this gets a little gross)
Crush your pills up
Put powder mixed with water in a syringe(without a needle). These can be bought as "child's oral liquid syringes"
Put some vaseline or lube on swiy's asshole
While lying down insert the syringe into asshole
Push the plunger in and pull out
Keep cheeks squeezed together and laying down for about 15 minutes

this method will definitely hit you harder and faster than any oral or even snorting method. Also the tylenol should not effect your body nearly as much, but it still will do some damage.

hope that helps

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Nice trick for SWIM to try.

[coyote007]

Swim has tried everything mentioned and has stayed w/ the Dilaudid and Fent patch. After all this is one reason stronger meds are created. Swim just has to be sure not to use up the good stuff so he/she doesn't have to resort to the percs. ps. they were all gone a day or 2 after the first post quite some time ago. pps. swim is allegedly over 6', 195-200 lbs. and takes 400 mg. of testosterone cypionate weekly.

[IntrepidTraveler]

Originally Posted by coyote007

swim was administered 8mg IV Dilaudid 6x a day for a few months. now swim is perscribed Percocet 10/325 (120) and they are completely ineffective, even when taking 12 at a time. Swim knows that is the daily limit for APAP. Is there any method or amount that will allow swim to enjoy these? Tagamet, grapefruit & Tums don't help either.

If SWIY finds those percs worthless, I know someone who would love to take them off his hands!! But seriously, being on an 8mg hydromorphone IV for a few months built you up a SERIOUS tolerance. If 120 mgs of perc isnt doing it for you, then ask your Doc (im assuming this is a pain management issue) for fentanyl patches, along with some 8mg dilaudids for those times when even the patch isn't enough. SWIY's doctor is absolutely silly if he advised SWIY to take 12 percocets a day..when he could have just as easily perscribed you OC 80s or 160s, which have no APAP.

[OhCasey]

Originally Posted by IntrepidTraveler

If SWIY finds those percs worthless, I know someone who would love to take them off his hands!! But seriously, being on an 8mg hydromorphone IV for a few months built you up a SERIOUS tolerance. If 120 mgs of perc isnt doing it for you, then ask your Doc (im assuming this is a pain management issue) for fentanyl patches, along with some 8mg dilaudids for those times when even the patch isn't enough. SWIY's doctor is absolutely silly if he advised SWIY to take 12 percocets a day..when he could have just as easily perscribed you OC 80s or 160s, which have no APAP.

Its all in the name. When docs hear Oxycontin red lights flash and they think ADDICT. Thats what all that schooling gets ya.

[The_Tortured_Soul]

Originally Posted by OhCasey

Its all in the name. When docs hear Oxycontin red lights flash and they think ADDICT. Thats what all that schooling gets ya.

Yeah, even with all that schooling, doctors can be quite moronic sometimes. People forgot about common sense and logic and focus too much on book smarts these days.

[JJx23]

Depending on where you are from, I would think at least. I go to a pain management doctor, and I have been on 10 MG's of Percocet for about 2 weeks. He prescribes me 100 every couple of weeks. My next visit is about 10 days away, and I believe he wants to put me on Oxycontin, not too high of a dosage, because I know how potent Oxycontin is. He says, the APAP can hurt your liver, and Oxycontin does not have APAP in it, so it would be a lot safer, especially for long-term pain care. I really don't have any adverse reactions, well any severe ones, from the Percocet. They definitely help my pain, and I only take about 4 a day, so I do not go overboard. They work wonders for me.

You need to talk to your doctors, that is what they are there for. That is compeltely false if you mention a certain drug, that they would automatically say no. They might tell you that the drug is potentially dangerous if abused, but he will not just say no. If you are in pain, Oxycontin is a great long-term pain management alternative. My foot doctor had called my pain management doctor, and he told him that my foot could take over 3 months to get better, if not more, and I work 12 hours a day. I suppose I am lucky that I live where I live, because some of the stories I have heard about people living in a certain part of the USA, or the world for that matter, really have that much trouble getting certain medications? If it is monitored, and you aren't abusing them, what is the big deal? Pain management centers are there for a reason, and they taper you off of the drug when you are ready to get off of them.

I guess there are just poor doctors is certain parts of the world.

Regards.

Originally Posted by OhCasey

Its all in the name. When docs hear Oxycontin red lights flash and they think ADDICT. Thats what all that schooling gets ya.

[OhCasey]

Well not everywhere is as enlightened as New Jersey. More then region its got more to do with which doctor you see. Ive had doctors who throw pills at me and some who make ridiculous requests and statements. Doctors in general need to be more educated in pain management and the prevention of addiction through adequately managing pain not withholding of opioids. If there was only one doctor who wasnt properly handeling the pain needs of his patients and in turn causing more pain and suffering then what is avoidable it would be too many.

[JJx23]

Well, that's why they have second, and even third opinions... Most pain management doctors will prescribe narcotics, if the patient needs them of course. I mean you need to have a case obviously, not just for pleasure. I wake up in the morning in tears, that's how bad my foot is, and I take my morning dosage, and it's fine. Like I had stated in other threads, I don't have much sympathy for people who only use drugs for their effects, if they have a legit problem, well then that is a different story, but I hear too many stories about people abusing medication, and worst off, they don't have a single problem with them, except for their addiction. Anyhow, yes, I haven't had problems with my doctor, my foot nor pain management doctor, but they both know how much painI am in.

Regards.

Originally Posted by OhCasey

Well not everywhere is as enlightened as New Jersey. More then region its got more to do with which doctor you see. Ive had doctors who throw pills at me and some who make ridiculous requests and statements. Doctors in general need to be more educated in pain management and the prevention of addiction through adequately managing pain not withholding of opioids. If there was only one doctor who wasnt properly handeling the pain needs of his patients and in turn causing more pain and suffering then what is avoidable it would be too many.

[UpAllNiteOCXTC]

some people just dont get the effects. in swiys case, swim believes this is a good thing, for swim used to depend on opiates to make daily living easier.

swim cautions swiy about the dosage...10 percs (ill use 5mg as example) each contain a ratio of 5mg oxycodone to 375mg acetaminophen (which im sure swiy is aware of). Such large, frequent doses of acetaminophen can be potentially fatal. Whereas with oxycontin, there is no Tylenol. Don't neglect to factor in the Tylenol and consider the liver damage...

UpAllNiteOCXTC added 2 Minutes and 49 Seconds later...

swim is sorry to hear of swiys chronic pain, and wishes swiy well...

swim agrees (but is hypocritical, seeing as she has abused pharms) that the continued abuse of pharmaceuticals may perhaps lead to the illegalization of what once has helped many people who honestly need it.

[JJx23]

I doub that very much. They are always going to have powerful pain killers, mainly because they simply too.. Doctors are already strict as it is. They cannot just get rid of the medication, just because Drug Seekers need to get their fix. The whole point of taking pain medication is actually needing it, that's how I look at it at least. But I do understand your point.

Regards.

Originally Posted by UpAllNiteOCXTC

some people just dont get the effects. in swiys case, swim believes this is a good thing, for swim used to depend on opiates to make daily living easier.

swim cautions swiy about the dosage...10 percs (ill use 5mg as example) each contain a ratio of 5mg oxycodone to 375mg acetaminophen (which im sure swiy is aware of). Such large, frequent doses of acetaminophen can be potentially fatal. Whereas with oxycontin, there is no Tylenol. Don't neglect to factor in the Tylenol and consider the liver damage...

UpAllNiteOCXTC added 2 Minutes and 49 Seconds later...

swim is sorry to hear of swiys chronic pain, and wishes swiy well...

swim agrees (but is hypocritical, seeing as she has abused pharms) that the continued abuse of pharmaceuticals may perhaps lead to the illegalization of what once has helped many people who honestly need it.

[UpAllNiteOCXTC]

yea, they have tried to make oxycontin illegal but failed..

[The_Tortured_Soul]

I say if folks want to enjoy a nice OC high every now and then when they only have mild legitimate pain that could be easily taken care of with a few 7.5 or 10 milligram Hydros or Oxy tens then my oppinion is so be it. Let them have a good time. I mean this is a drug website and it is not all dedicated to legal drug use, but moreso about friends that use drugs illegally. I do feel bad for drug addicts. Some of them are just really sad, but still good people and somewhere down the line, shit hit the fan and now they have an addiction that they cannot handle comfortably. I think that junkies have enough shit to worry about and should not be criticised for there habit. Druggies have to live with such horrible stigmas and even if all you did was smoke a joint in college, they want to bring that up against you when it comes to jobs and especially political positions. That's just my two cents, however, in response to the comment somewhere up there on this thread about having zero sympathy for drug addicts or something like that.

[UpAllNiteOCXTC]

they're just mad cause they're sober all the time. haha

[Ididnotinhale]

"I think that junkies have enough shit to worry about and should not be criticised for there habit. Druggies have to live with such horrible stigmas and even if all you did was smoke a joint in college" Tortured Soul

That's what my username is about.

Also, going back to Coyote's original question swim thinks swiy could take a few percs and chase it with poppy tea. Be careful they're synergestic. Start with a low dose just t be extra safe.

[UpAllNiteOCXTC]

swim agrees. Swim rknows and has experienced firsthand how combining and creating cocktails enhances drug use, but it really isnt worth it. most people are unaware of exactly how dangerous some combinations can be.

swim used to be nonchalant... "oh, swim will have a beer with these oxys, maybe a few more beers, ooh this is feelin good.." meanwhile internally your CNS is depressing at a steady rate and can lead to respiratory failure. same as stimulants. "ohh, swim will take a few addy's and an energy drink..ohh swiy has coke? yea ill do a couple lines, mix that shit together.." then everyone is shocked when swiy is on the floor feeling like his heart will bust out of his chest at any moment.