Oddly enough swim found a common ground between adderall and opiates

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Opiates and stimulants are for the most part polar opposites.Swim hates that sweaty,jittery,feeling of paranoia cocaine and ritalin(methylphenidate)creates.Today however swim took 60 mg of adderall.Swim was worried it would be much like other stimulants he tried but he did it out of boredom.

Swim was wrong actually.The come up was barely noticeable.Swim found himself hearing music and sounds with more clarity,enjoying mundane tasks,and feeling a need for human company.The best part though is when swim would sit down he would go into deep,daydream like thought.This was in someways very similar to the deep and dreamy opiated state but a little different.

Swim used to have difficulty understanding why some people would allow any stimulant to take over their lives but now he can definitely understand.Is adderall swims favorite substance?No,definitely not.Would he call it an enjoyable experience?Yup.

Alot of people complain how horrible the come down from amphetamines is but swim is sort of coming down now and it isn't a really bad feeling like the comedown from coke or ritalin.Is the comedown from adderall susposed to be different?Is it like that for everyone?

[OhCasey]

Swims comedown off of Adderall isnt noticeable most of the time but he stays in the shallow end of the adderall pool (never tops 30 mgs a day).

[kaczynski]

Didn't take enough for the comedown

[CorySpaceCowboy]

AFOAF agrees. For him crack/cocaine is the worst feeling he has ever had. But with adderall it is barley noticable. AFOAF thinks that adderall has a far longer-lasting come down is the main reason.

AFOAF has never taken ritalin, he has taken concerta though, which is the same drug as ritalin only in extended release form AFOAF believes and his come downs from it are far from terrible.

So AFOAF believes that the extended release is the main reason, because it extends the duration of the comedown.

AFOAF has had very nasty comedowns from adderall though, he learned to not take it so often.

[moda00]

Swim had a really bad comedown her first time doing a stim on a fairly low dose years ago (she did 20mg Adderall xr orally because she was scared to snort things lol) but now when she does low doses of most amps she doesn't have comedowns. Perhaps it was a fluke, or she was just not used to it- she spent several hours under her comforter in the fetal position crying- comedown from hell. But again, she doesn't know for sure it was the Adderall, as she has never had that horrible of a reaction since.

She thinks that coke comedowns are pretty bad, so in comparison, the amp ones are pretty do-able. She also thinks that snorting, mixing stimulant substances, and doing higher doses lead to worse comedowns, but taking oral and/or time release doses, and staying in a reasonable dosage range will not usually cause problems (unless one decides to partake too often, which is another issue, but she is certain swiy is well aware of how that can happen now) Enjoy!

[JudgeJudy]

SWIM usually has a nasty come down with chest pains at 20mg. The only time the comedowns are easy is when they were extended release. Not sure why but it makes the come down not so harsh.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Well swim was thinking there might be a bad side to his little adderall party and it came about this morning.Swim felt awful.His body sort of switched from hot towards cold,he went into a deep depression,and wanted to sleep it away but just laid down lost in not particularly pleasant thought.Fortunately it didn't last that long,atleast no the extreme parts of it.Swim still doesn't feel completely better but then again swim hasn't really felt good practically since he started suboxone.

Well now swim understands adderall.He understands why some adore it so much,understands why it is a habit in its own right,understands what makes it different from his usual drug of choice,and understands that it isn't his thing.

[augustwest]

SWIM wont ever touch adderal, coke , or any stim without something to help the comedown. Even 30mg has him feeling like shit at days end. Swim perfers potent opiates, but usually settles for swims valium , suboxone, and a stiff drink. Ghb really takes the edge off, but the rebound effect winds up keeping me awake longer in the long run. (Although that makes sex so enjoyable swim will go without sleep.)

[RX420]

my friend takes kpins along with the addies usually and temazepam during the end of the dosage/use. she doesn't notice much comedown, just wants to sleeeep and irritable, but nothing really physical. she likes to take a few days break though just to get it out of her system completely, since she doesnt really want it building up and up and than crashing hard after like 2 weeks daily use. she really doesnt see how and why it should be used daily, but it helps her major depression like nothing else. but w/o it seems to be worse. so she finds kanna or kratom for those days she takes a break helps. and klonopin. a good meal and lots of water and a good vitimin helps too.

my friend is also a chronic pain patient and feels opiates to be much more addictive so she needs to be more careful with her pain med usuage than addy use.

[Donmeka]

adderall has helped SWIM stay off opiates and since he got his last script he takes 30mg adderall and 1-2mg xanax twice daily and a xanax at night if needed which is not always usually only the first couple days cuz of SWIMs getting used to the adderall.

SWIM is just tired of doing H and oxycontin so he will take his medication the way he should instead of selling them for dope. when he took his first dosage he hadnt felt that positive and normal in ages since he was going thru a loooong depression while using H daily.

ppl at SWIMs NA meetings bitch how xanax is addictive and SWIM has had a rx for 2yrs and never had a problem, he has gone weeks without them and months without adderall. but now that the effects are very positive for SWIM and allows him to live every single day without having that "I NEED A FIX!!!!" feeling. those haters can kiss SWIMs ass, it works for SWIM , he has never had an addiction problem with either med and refuses to return to H.

[100mg Methylphenidate]

Swim would probably be popping a lot more pain pills if he didn't pop adderall. Coke made swim jittery too and didn't offer much of a high, same with methylphenidate(anymore), but even after long term adderall use, he can still achieve quite a high off adderall if he only goes on binges ocassionally.

Although, swim would probably be just another speedfreak if he could find the shit all the time and had the money for it.

He wants a prescription badly. Opiates are nice, but they are no adderall to swim.

[augustwest]

Swim used to trade adderal for 10mg vicidon in college. Swim thought who in the hell would rather have an adderal that a vicidon ( or a bunch of vics)?
Some friends fiended addderal, some fiended opiates. It takes all kinds....

[Donmeka]

take 29mg-30mg of adderall and 1-2mg of xanax and SWIM will be on cloud nicne, nothing too intense at all just real happy and positive.

[Donmeka]

SWIM will be trying to quit opiates for a long while and is on his first day, he has adderalls and a small amount of xanax so he should be ok. he will try to get some chronic in the next couple days. he woke up today at 6am and took 2x30mg and is doing just fine, no accelerated heart rate or anything out of the ordinary, like NOTHING out of the norm lol.

so SWIM is thinking if he sticks to a good regiment of his adderalls during the day and only take his xanax at night for sleep(some Robotussin is present too IF and that is IF needed) he should do alright.

SWIM does expect some pain and/or uneasiness but nothing he can't handle he thinks. wish him luck and yes SWIM is eating right(eating cereal as we speak lol) and plans on taking some multivitamins and keep busy which is key for not getting bored and wanting to get some H or OC.

cheers and into the ocean he goes ^_^

[herostyle]

For SWIM, the comedown isn't too bad for any stimulant if SWIM has something to keep his mind busy. SWIM starts to notice the comedown is bad when he finds himself having no task to complete. Having a set goal to complete or even just something to occupy SWIM helps the comedown off any stimulant a lot. Also, a little pot can always help relax swiy.

[Donmeka]

OK ON SWIMs LAST POST HE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE THE START OF HIS EXPERIMENTAL Adderall/Xanax(BENZOS etc.) DETOX from using black tar heroin for about a year and 3 months maybe 2 months but let us say 3 which = 15 months.

During this time(FYI this 1 time of use is his lifetime EXP) SWIM did not smoke day after day after day until the last 6 months MAYBE and went through periods of no use with the help of using dilaudid and taking less n less until nothing. SWIM has also tried the method he will be using again.

ATM SWIM is in possession of 30-50 30mg Adderall pills and 20-30 1mg Xanax. if SWIM remembers right this is way more than enough to get the heroin out of SWIM's system and tehen only havw to worry about just his adderall most likely which should not be a problem because he does not experience side effects during the day AT ALL and when something is taken for sleep SIM IS as peachy as Jesus' bottom!



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FYI: i might want to update this