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Old 31-03-2008, 23:25
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D-Amphet tolerance window, a question~

SWIM recently aquired a prescription for Dextroamphetmanine 20MG. SWIM was seriously exploring options concerning the use of ADHD drugs as a tool for mental stability and dealing with some of the unique issues SWIM has. if swim had extra pills when it was time to renew, or felt like it, swim figured he could get pretty tweeky for enjoyment, too.


the first day swim took his 20mg pill (2 a day) he was in the zone. he never had taken a stim before. he could drop what he was doing and assist his father working in the other room even if the language used towards swim was rather colorful - with just a sigh and a giggle at life's irony. swim thought less idealistically- or at least he thought he did. in truth, swim thought in terms of "what I can do now that will effect my path towards what I want to do idealistically." Swim was finally happy things were going okay with his life.

I can't remember how long swim took the 2 a day prescription plan, but he eventually took another. why the hell not. etc, etc. swim did not sleep for a week and by the end of the week swim was very scared, in the dark, hearing things and trying to stay grounded spiritually, mentally, psychically, and even physically.

the good relationship with his parents and even himself, and lack of fighting or abuse swim discovered inside of himself faded into something very terrible and something tangible he can recall even now. so he decided to rebuild himself by a first test of willpower.

swim would get back on his med schedule by skipping 3 days worth of doses, the amount swim took one night. 100 mg I believe was the amount he was on at the most at one time.

swim's problem is he can't achieve the concentration or euphoria or direction he at least had before he experimented with a new experience.

swim has heard of magnesium supplements but is sad to discover they aren't very effective and require me to actually take a dose.

swim is heartily happily that he went the next day after the trip without taking a pill (until 11PM) and has learned a little self-worth from this.

swim knows one day is obviously not enough to reset his tolerance, and is anxious to find out 2 things:


1. how many days generally should swim wait before beginning his regiment again?

2. if he resumes taking the 2 a day, regardless, will he eventually begin to feel them?



on a side note, on the pink d-amphets from walgreens- swim has heard a LOT of shit talked about them. swim plans to research other options
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Old 01-04-2008, 00:59
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Re: D-Amphet tolerance window, a question~

I AFOAF's experiences with ADHD meds the only real way to get long term benefits from them is to take them the way the doctor prescribes them, or be mature about them if SWIMS not getting them prescribed.

AFOAF suggests SWIM to stop for at least a week to not only build up your tolerance but to get you out of the stimulated mindset. Then simply take them as prescribed four-five days a week with a two to three day break to build SWIMS tolerance back up. That's what AFOAF would suggest if SWIM does in fact have ADHD.

Or an alternative would be to simply use SWIMS meds on occasion and accept the fact that life is not always going to be "AMAZING." That way SWIMS tolerance doesn't build up, and SWIM is forced to make the best out of the imperfections of life. Think of it as partying, when done on the weekends it is a kick ass way to end the week, when done everyday it can destroy ones life. From what SWIM has said this is the method that AFOAF thinks would be best for you since he feels as if he can strongly relate to what SWIM has said and this has worked best for him. Relying on meds to make one's world more perfect is far from wise.
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Re: D-Amphet tolerance window, a question~

SWIM agrees with AFOAF's words. he feels deep wisdom from them as they describe what swim calls swim's sudden realization of his stimulated state and there was a lot of sadness and fear.
there wouldn't be fear without courage though, or perfect moments without imperfect bullshit.

"as above so below"

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Re: D-Amphet tolerance window, a question~

after much thought SWIM has decided to take this week for a break as it is monday, and begin a regimen of 4 days, 3 day breaks. this SWIM feels is a wiser decision, SWIM will not get that deep-down dark feeling that he does on being stimmed 24/7, and eventually when SWIM ceases the regimen all together he will have an oppurtunity to learn and gain internal experience as AFOAF did.
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Re: D-Amphet tolerance window, a question~

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after much thought SWIM has decided to take this week for a break as it is monday, and begin a regimen of 4 days, 3 day breaks. this SWIM feels is a wiser decision, SWIM will not get that deep-down dark feeling that he does on being stimmed 24/7, and eventually when SWIM ceases the regimen all together he will have an oppurtunity to learn and gain internal experience as AFOAF did.
Swim Uses his addy monday-thursday and then 3 day breaks and hes never experienced increased tolerance, yet. I like that you were trying to stay grounded psychically.
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after much thought SWIM has decided to take this week for a break as it is monday, and begin a regimen of 4 days, 3 day breaks. this SWIM feels is a wiser decision, SWIM will not get that deep-down dark feeling that he does on being stimmed 24/7, and eventually when SWIM ceases the regimen all together he will have an oppurtunity to learn and gain internal experience as AFOAF did.
AFOAF is glad to hear that. Just remember adderall is like a psycho female out to get SWIM. He realizes how easy it is to fall in love with adderall and want to be with her 24/7. How she'll make one feel sooo grand, just realize her intentions aren't really to please SWIM, she only does that to lure him to her trap, as long as he keeps his space he has very little to worry about. AFOAF realizes SWIM has already learned this, but he said it has been really helpful for him to think of adderall this way and wants to share his perspective with SWIM so he to can perhaps benefit from it.

Just be sure you don't get too clingy or too attached, if SWIM finds himself in that position [which I'm sure he will at some point, especially in the early stages of SWIMS new regimen]
he needs to realize it's time to take a little break. Don't be surprised if adderall isn't too happy with SWIM needing to take a break for three days. That means she'll have to do all of her pleasing all over again.

But if the breaks get rough AFOAF would suggest smoking a bowl and relaxing, it's a nice way to mellow out and see the beauty of the slow paced world, or so AFOAF says.

Good luck and have fun. Hope SWIM has found AFOAF's words encouraging.
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AFOAF is glad to hear that. Just remember adderall is like a psycho female out to get SWIM. He realizes how easy it is to fall in love with adderall and want to be with her 24/7. How she'll make one feel sooo grand, just realize her intentions aren't really to please SWIM, she only does that to lure him to her trap, as long as he keeps his space he has very little to worry about. AFOAF realizes SWIM has already learned this, but he said it has been really helpful for him to think of adderall this way and wants to share his perspective with SWIM so he to can perhaps benefit from it.

Just be sure you don't get too clingy or too attached, if SWIM finds himself in that position [which I'm sure he will at some point, especially in the early stages of SWIMS new regimen] he needs to realize it's time to take a little break. Don't be surprised if adderall isn't too happy with SWIM needing to take a break for three days. That means she'll have to do all of her pleasing all over again.

But if the breaks get rough AFOAF would suggest smoking a bowl and relaxing, it's a nice way to mellow out and see the beauty of the slow paced world, or so AFOAF says.

Good luck and have fun. Hope SWIM has found AFOAF's words encouraging.
Adderall is nice to have on the side but not really as a main squeeze atleast for swim. Swims main squeeze would have to be opiates. She'll always love you, as long as you have the dough. Shes a lil bit of a gold digger.
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Adderall is nice to have on the side but not really as a main squeeze atleast for swim. Swims main squeeze would have to be opiates. She'll always love you, as long as you have the dough. Shes a lil bit of a gold digger.
AFOAF doesn't know what she has but that skank made him itch all over.
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