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Old 29-03-2008, 20:11
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Swim saw that at one of the Federal Analog trials for GBL the defense argued that MSG (or monosodium glutamate, you know the stuff in Chinese food) also was an analog of GHB and produced similar effects

"Bamberg's expert testified that a person who consumed enough monosodium glutamate (MSG)—a common food additive— would experience effects similar to those from GHB. Bamberg thus reasons that the statute is arbitrary and void."
http://bulk.resource.org/courts.gov/...4.06-1489.html

Also MSG is known to make people sleepy, and several have reported "Chinese Restaurant Syndrome"

"In April 1968, Ho Man Kwok wrote an article for the New England Journal of Medicine where he said, "I have experienced a strange syndrome whenever I have eaten out in a Chinese restaurant, especially one that served northern Chinese food. The syndrome, which usually begins 15 to 20 minutes after I have eaten the first dish, lasts for about two hours, without hangover effect. The most prominent symptoms are numbness at the back of the neck, gradually radiating to both arms and the back, general weakness and palpitations...". This comment began a global health scare about monosodium glutamate and "Chinese restaurant syndrome" was born. However, research has failed to prove that monosodium glutamate affects a large percentage of the population, and Chinese restaurant syndrome is largely resigned to urban legend status."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutami...ealth_concerns

So question, can MSG get one high?
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Old 29-03-2008, 20:18
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Both my father and his mother (genetics, perhaps?) have MSG "allergies." I find it weird because it's sort of half-systemic and half-localized, whereas they experience numbness in their mouth and fingertips, but it's never a full-blown TNF-alpha-every-dendritic-cell-in-your-body-is-pushing-you-into anaphylaxis.

I'm a huge fan of MSG-loaded Asian cuisine, but I think with all the brainwashing, perhaps, that's been dished out about how any symptoms are an allergic reaction/you're gonna die!! ...Would prevent me from being bold enough to test how much truth there would be in that fiction, or how much fiction there would be in that truth.
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Glutamic acid is an excitotoxin, so it probably doesn't share much with GHB in its pharmacology. It is a precursor to GABA, though (GABA with a carboxyl at the gamma position).
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