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Old 26-03-2008, 23:04
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Best Recipe for Poppy Seed Tea

So my gerbil tried poppy seed tea for the first time the other day...he washed 300g seeds in warm water stirred, filtered, etc. and was ultimately unimpressed. A lot of the recipes he saw in his research, including the one from poppyseedtea.org in which the user od'ed , used lemon juice, so he decided to lated do another extraction on the same seeds, this time adding the juice of two lemons to the mixture. Needless to say this really did the trick, he had pinpoint eyes all night and felt as if he had taken 40-50mgs of morphine sulphate. Because morphine in its alkaloid form is already water soluble...and I believe would not readily react with citric acid to form the citrate salt unless the morphine was first converted into the freebase as citric acid is a weak acid, this drastic increase in effect puzzled him. He decided to do some more research and found this research study titled Solubility behavior of narcotic analgesics in aqueous media: solubilities and dissociation constants of morphine, fentanyl, and sufentanil. One quote from the abstract proved to be particularly interesting...."at low pH's the aqueous solubility of morphine increased in a linear fashion with increases in the molar strength of citric acid which was added to acidify the medium, suggesting the formation of a soluble morphine-citrate complex." Hmmmmm....Gerbilicious(that's his name), decided to investigate. This time he used the same mass of seeds 300g but squeezed in the juice of three lemons to the solution(about enough water was added to cover the seeds 2'' in a 2 liter pitcher)...In terms of effect lets just say that he couldn't even drink the entire tea. It seems as if morphine does in fact form some interesting, and very soluble complex with citric acid. According to what I have read, seeds only contain alkaloids due to unwashed opium residue on their shells...could it be possible that some of the extreme variation in strength experienced by seed tea users could be more a function of recipe than what's been previously believed? If the creation of this morphine-citric acid complex contributes as significantly as Gerbilicious has observed to the removal of opium residue from seed coatings, maybe poppy seeds could actually become a viable source for home-cooked opium.

here's the link to the abstract: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2569731
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Re: Best Recipe for Poppy Seed Tea

This has been discussed many times over. Citric acid or "sour salt" is the most common pH adjuster for Morphine based solutions. SWIM always stated that it was for good reason. Not only does it make the morphine complex but it also does a few other things if one were to research it a little.

Thanks for the link however. It proved interesting.
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Re: Best Recipe for Poppy Seed Tea

Swim has never had much success with the seeds.The amount of seeds someone with a tolerance like swim would need would probably be ridiculous.
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Re: Best Recipe for Poppy Seed Tea

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Swim has never had much success with the seeds.The amount of seeds someone with a tolerance like swim would need would probably be ridiculous.
Will SWIY explain how his tolerance is... SWIM is making some tea right now.

For opiates SWIM usually does an 80 of oxy or 50mg of hydrocodone...
SWIM isn't too hyped on the tea, even though SWIMs friends say its great.
SWIMs friend is an experienced opiate user and says the tea works wonders so who knows.

Nothing lost over a little money right.
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