Smoking vs Snorting vs Dabbing

[MartM]

SWIM's dealer has always suggested dabbing MDMA powder on the tongue but this has become boring.
SWIM is now looking for a more interesting way of administering the drug.
After doing some research online about smoking MDMA, SWIM has discovered that people discourage smoking as it would be a waste/ineffective. But SWIM wonders why it cannot be smoked in the same way as heroin (Chasing the Dragon) which SWIM has tried before?
AFOAF told SWIM not to snort MDMA as it burns terribly, but is insufflation any better than dabbing?

[Silentscream]

Im pretty sure if one was to try and smoke MDMA the heat would just destroy the compound.

Snorting I am told is painful, but swim believes it is by far the most effective method of administration. Provided the crystals are crushed to a fine powder, its nothing most people cant handle.

Most swimmers will bomb MDMA (wrap it in a rolling paper and swallow it.)

To be honest you couldv found all of this if you searched before posting.

[RaverHippie]

smoking wouldn't really work considering MDMA is always found in a salt form. There are other threads devoted to this topic.

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48594

[pinkandfluffy]

Swim has snorted a few times, often to test if the product is real and be able to get quick results. Yeah, after a few seconds it hurts, but its not bad. Just have tissues nearby, as it can get slightly messy. Swim actually has quite a lot of fun when snorting it. Also, swiy just has to GO for it, and snort line after line... just snorting the odd line every half hour doesn't really do the trick... it doesn't quite work in the same way as coke. just take half and save half for a couple hours later. The come-up is amazing.

bombing gets more bang for your buck, though...

[pinkandfluffy]

PS: if swiy does plan on snorting it, invest time in crushing it up into a very very fine powder, or it WILL hurt a lot.

[MartM]

Originally Posted by Silentscream

Im pretty sure if one was to try and smoke MDMA the heat would just destroy the compound.

Snorting I am told is painful, but swim believes it is by far the most effective method of administration. Provided the crystals are crushed to a fine powder, its nothing most people cant handle.

Most swimmers will bomb MDMA (wrap it in a rolling paper and swallow it.)

To be honest you couldv found all of this if you searched before posting.

SWIM has searched the forums but did not find anything about smoking MDMA like heroin, where you apply the flame indirectly to the bottom of tin/aluminum foil and inhale the vapors released.
Does SWIY think this would work?

[RaverHippie]

Originally Posted by MartM

SWIM has searched the forums but did not find anything about smoking MDMA like heroin, where you apply the flame indirectly to the bottom of tin/aluminum foil and inhale the vapors released.
Does SWIY think this would work?

Originally Posted by RaverHippie

smoking wouldn't really work considering MDMA is always found in a salt form. There are other threads devoted to this topic.

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48594

I guess my post was disregarded, but I will reaffirm it anyways. It would be impossible to smoke MDMA unless it isn't in a salt form but in a smokeable base. MDMA is ALWAYS found in a salt form and you wouldn't be able to get any vapors.

[MartM]

Originally Posted by RaverHippie

I guess my post was disregarded, but I will reaffirm it anyways. It would be impossible to smoke MDMA unless it isn't in a salt form but in a smokeable base. MDMA is ALWAYS found in a salt form and you wouldn't be able to get any vapors.

Ok thx, SWIM wouldn't bother trying to smoke it then.

[DonReek]

snorting does work, and the pain isnt so bad so long as swiy is willing to put up with the taste which is fucking horrible.
it hits swiy in a matter of minutes and gives swiy a real rush

[RaverHippie]

duration is greatly reduced if insufflated

[pinkandfluffy]

Originally Posted by RaverHippie

duration is greatly reduced if insufflated

This is true, and swiy needs more (not loads more, but a bit) but the come-on is incredible.

[BlondieUK]

It seems to be alot more intense if snorted, but doesn't last as long..

If SWIY only has a little, then bomb it. However if SWIY has quite alot (enough to do a line or two every hour) then enjoy, just make sure it's been powdered as much as possible or the crystals will tear swiy's nose apart.

[MartM]

Originally Posted by BlondieUK

It seems to be alot more intense if snorted, but doesn't last as long..

If SWIY only has a little, then bomb it. However if SWIY has quite alot (enough to do a line or two every hour) then enjoy, just make sure it's been powdered as much as possible or the crystals will tear swiy's nose apart.

SWIM only has one line of fine powder, bombing it would have very little effect on him. SWIM thinks it will be best to snort it.

[KyleM]

From experience, plugging it is much stronger than snorting and lasts longer than swallowing. Snorting and oral methods seem to give an inferior experience after getting used to plugging. If SWIY is lucky enough to be in contact with the chemist and can get MDMA free base, the forum would love to hear the results of smoking this, but chances are that SWIY will never come across a smokeable form MDMA. Now for snorting, the strongest ecstasy pills SWIM has ever snorted still don't burn as bad as pure MDMA. SWIM recommends starting off with very small lines and gradually building up if necessary. SWIM almost had to take a friend to the hospital after he collapsed from the immediate chemical rush from snorting a high dose of MDMA. If SWIY has alot of experience snortind in general, then disregard this, but for anyone who has never snorted pure MDMA, it's harsher than SWIY may think.

[BlondieUK]

Ahh MartM.

Swim would definately say this is the way to go, as long as it is very powdered, swiy should feel it almost immediately.

Enjoy!

[chavrob]

I Defo Thing Putting It In A Rizzla Is Best Was Come Up With Ib 30 Mins For About 4 Hours

[RaverHippie]

Originally Posted by chavrob

I Defo Thing Putting It In A Rizzla Is Best Was Come Up With Ib 30 Mins For About 4 Hours

using slang or other euphemisms make posts indecipherable since this is an international forum and also watch out for self-incrimination

[MartM]

Originally Posted by chavrob

I Defo Thing Putting It In A Rizzla Is Best Was Come Up With Ib 30 Mins For About 4 Hours

Not understood.

[KomodoMK]

SWIM quite enjoys snorting MDMA, it feels like glass shards sometimes but you learn to love it, plus once your up it won't bother you in the slightest if you top up.

SWIM prefers to bomb a fairly big dose, wait around 10 mins and then do a fairly big line, the come up can be slightly overwhelming - but damn, what a f*cking ride.

SWIM finds the come up starts around 30 mins when taken orally and around 10 mins when insuffilated. Combining the two has a very rapid and intense come up with a fairly intense peak that slowly trails off over the hours. Highly suggest doing both, but be careful with dose - EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT.

[pinkandfluffy]

^^ Orally, come-up times can be unreliable. Swim quite often takes an hour or more to come up, whilst his friends all come up beefore him

[RaverHippie]

Originally Posted by pinkandfluffy

^^ Orally, come-up times can be unreliable. Swim quite often takes an hour or more to come up, whilst his friends all come up beefore him

There's a reason why he mentioned "EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT" that means the come-up time will be different for every person depending on factors just has height, body fat % etc.. The come-up time will generally be the same each time a person does it though.

Over all my friend tells me that just taking things orally is the best way to go so that it lasts as long as he wants it to. He usually wants a good 8 hours out of a single dose and gets it each time. He says think about how long SWIY wants all the good feelings to last. If that amount is more than 3-4 hours then bomb that shit, otherwise plugging/snorting are both reputable routes to go. Check the stickied thread in this subforum for plugging information.

[KomodoMK]

What RaverHippie says is very true. Stomach contents also affects the time it takes to come up, SWIM usually doesnt eat for about 6-8 hours before dosing as this leads to quicker onset. Generally most people come up in under an hour though. You could have PMA which takes longer to come up on, but I doubt that as it's usually pressed into pills and sold as E rather than MDMA powder.

[adzket]

swim would agree with most of above they tryed to smoke it yrs back a few times it slightly increased there sex drive somtimes it can be like snorting glass and very uncoftable how ever swim has resently had some which is more of a fine powder which hurt a bit but no more than most other drugs the come up this way was much more gental though quicker the over all efect from this was nothing special mild uphoria some stiumulation slightly stronger increase in sex drive the best way was oral ingestion as dabing it tastes like shit and takes ages to go so they put it inside a capsual which they have emptyed of medcine and take between 75mg - 125mg a time this is best come up takes longer but is stronger uporia at high levels as well as empathey sex drive threw the roof and very touchy feely and chaty which swim no longer gets with pills yuk!

[Masa]

so nobody is talking about Dabbing ?

[MartM]

Originally Posted by Masa

so nobody is talking about Dabbing ?

I guess that's cause SWIM said he was bored of dabbing when he started the thread. He was looking for other methods.