Oxymorphone (Opana) effects compared to Oxycodone (OxyContin)

[opi8]

SWIM has been using (mainly snorting) oxycodone (OxyContin) for a couple of years now. Recently there has been a decline of availability of OxyContin in SWIM's, and many doctors who previously prescribed OxyContin have stopped and begun to prescribe oxymorphone (Opana) -- 40mg in place of 80mg oxycodone, which SWIM understands to be an equivalent dose.

SWIM has not yet purchased or acquired any Opana as SWIM is preferring to stick with the favorite, OxyContin.

SWIM's question is--
How are the actual effects of Opana(oxymorphone) in comparison to OxyContin(oxycodone)?
In this case, it is Opana ER, so SWIM would be planning on crushing them and most likely snorting them.

Is the high similar to OxyContin? Is there a rush? Euphoria?
Is it something closer to Fentanyl or Morphine? Methadone? Hydrocodone?

SWIM will likely eventually pick some up and try it out for him/herself but would really like to hear some of SWIY's opinions and thoughts on oxymorphone first before spending money.

[Candyflippin]

SWIM also felt the decline in availability of OC's. Lately SWIM has been snorting alot of opana's. Both extended release and rapid release. It doesn't make much of a difference, SWIY just needs to suck the coating off the ER's.

It's true, they are about twice as strong as oxycontin but the high is quite different. SWIM enjoys them though.

They also tend to be a lot cheaper on the streets than OC's around here as well.

[Mercer414]

SWIMs first experience with pills were with Opana 10mg IR.
WHOA!


A great high, but for SWIM, also lots of puking....

[joojoo99]

Oxymorphone would be more like a morphine/heroin sedated high, whereas oxycodone is more like a codieine euphoric and contentment kind of high.

[Ragnar Danneskjöld]

thank god SWIM has an oxycontin prescription for 60 40mg tabs a month....

at this point there is no reason to not have a prescription. (or a bad kidney lol)

[MEKONE]

Swim usually takes 3 ,10mg IR Opanas and feels VERY comfortable.He/she also takes 180mg of Avinza with that current dose so that also boosts the feeling.

[Be]

SWIM used to take around 80 mg's of oxycodone per day and liked it now SWIM can only get a hold of Opanas the 5 mg IR and The 20 mg ER and SWIM still prefers the oxycodone.

[opi8]

Originally Posted by Dhadz22

thank god SWIM has an oxycontin prescription for 60 40mg tabs a month....

at this point there is no reason to not have a prescription. (or a bad kidney lol)

Do you mean that in SWIY's area it's pretty easy to get a prescription?
For a while it was absurdly easy and rampant in SWIM's area, but it seems to have cracked down heavily.

opi8 added 2 Minutes and 54 Seconds later...

Originally Posted by joojoo99

Oxymorphone would be more like a morphine/heroin sedated high, whereas oxycodone is more like a codieine euphoric and contentment kind of high.

Ah, that makes sense. Are the effects similar at all to Fentanyl? or maybe Methadone?
Also, SWIM has not yet acquired any Opana -- what are the binders like? Are they similar to brand name OC? or the generics (oblong) that paste up? Is the consistency more like a roxi?
And does anyone know any stories of people with IV experience as far as Opana?

[fiveleggedrat]

Ok, lets start: Oxycodone and Oxymorphone are NOT comparable just because they both have "oxy" at the beginning.

For Swim, hydrocodone is energetic and euphoric, with little physical sedation. HydroMORPHONE is body heavy, dreamy, and very sedating.

ALL OPIOIDS HAVE DIFFERENT EFFECTS. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS "EQUIVALENT" dosages! Body chemisty is very different in everyone! An "equivalent" dosage for one person could cause another to OD.

If Swim ever took what people told him their dosages were, he would OD just about every time.

Oxymorphone would be more like a morphine/heroin sedated high, whereas oxycodone is more like a codieine euphoric and contentment kind of high.

Sums up what I'm saying.

OP: 40mg oxymorphone is ONLY ONLY ONLY equal to 80mg oxycodone when TAKEN ORALLY. It Is TWICE if not more stronger when snorted!!! BE CAREFUL!

[attyDJJD]

i am currently in a pain management program with a comprehensive pain and headache treatment center for the 4 herniated discs in my lumbar spine (i was the victim of 2 near-fatal car accidents in the past 15 years). The pain i feel actually prompted me to become a personal injury plaintiff's attorney, because i know how much pain can change your life. i was originally prescribed oxycontin when i first started out (well, actually...because i did not have health insurance, i originally had to get it myself, but once i got insurance, i immediately got it from a pain program), but have recently (within the past 6 months) been switched to oxymorphone (OPANA). i get 20mg ER Opana (x4 daily), and 10 mg IR oxycodone (for breakthrough pain) (x4 daily), so i know the effects of both medications well.

First of all, to correct one misstatement on here, Dillaudid is in no way related to morphine. Dillaudid (Hydra-morphone) is to Vicotin (Hydra-codone) as Opana (Oxy-morphone) is to Percocet (Oxy-codone), except that dillaudid and opana have no analgesic added.

Second, the difference between oxycontin and oxymorphone is simple: oxy morphone is the substance your body metabolizes oxycontin into. Before your body can experience a pain relieving effect from oxycontin, it has to be broken down and metabolized. The compound that your body creates is oxymorphone (and then a byproduct waste material that your body disposes of), and it is the metabolized oxymorphone your body creates that causes your pain receptors to react positively. Therefore, when you take oxymorphone directly (like OPANA), your body is saved the trouble of metabolizing the drug, and the effect is more immediate, and more substantial because every nanogram of substance in the pill is an active pain medication (except the time release coating of course if it is an ER, and whatever binder is used to hold the medication in its shape), whereas with oxycontin, there is a byproduct that is disposed of after it is converted into oxymorphone by your body. It is this process within your body that lead the chemists to create oxymorphone, as it is a more direct pain medication than oxycodone (oxycontin is just a namebrand for extended release oxycodone...like kleenex, or q-tips, for tissues and cotton swabs). Opana makes an ER and IR oxymorphone tablet.

In short, oxymorphone has been determined to be roughly twice as powerful as oxycontin, and whether you remove the time-release coating and swallow, or remove the time-release and insulfalate, or leave the time-release coating on and ingest, it will work roughly twice as fast, last about 50% longer, and require roughly half the dose for an equal dose of oxycodone/contin (again...same thing) absorbed by your body through the same delivery method. Therefore 40mg of Opana insulfalated will give the same pain relief/euphoria as 80mg of Oxycodone insulfalated. All the talk about the highs being different are most likely psychosematic (like that experiment where they dyed a bunch of elementary school childrens' food with food coloring [blue milk, green meat, etc.] and all the kids got "sick"). The effects are the same, just faster and stronger with oxymorphone. Of course, the danger of abuse is the same, and directly related to your chosen delivery system.

In the 70's oxymorphone (then known simply as "blues") was pulled from the market due to its ENORMOUS black market popularity, and potential for overdose/excessive abuse. It has only been in recent years with the saturation of the market with oxycontin that it has been re-released and approved. The funny thing is: on the black market, 80mg of oxycontin can fetch up to $75 (i am also a criminal defense attorney), but Opana 40mg (the rough equivilent) has absolutely NO black market value (which is great for me, because my drug-addict friends and clients do not bug me for my meds like they used to when i was getting Oxycontin....though they do occasionally bug me for my 10mg oxycodone). I anticipate that when Purdue Pharama redesigns Oxycontin to have an impenetrable time release (february 2009 they are doing away with the coating and putting the time release directly into the pill, making so it cannot be bypassed by those seeking to insulfalate it) Opana will blow up sky high on the black market, and i will probably have to switch to fentanyl (lollipops hopefully...i HATE the patches) to avoid being harangued by drug addicts.

One thing i read on this thread that was true is: everyone reacts differently to pain medication (me personally: any "hydra" does not work for me at all, and might as well be a placebo...though i know many people who SWEAR by dillaudid...OPANA being like the stronger red-headed stepbrother of Dillaudid). It is because of these different reactions based on the many varrying brain chemistries of individuals that causes the manufacturers and doctors to invent and prescribe these different medications. So the simple fact is: no one can tell you which drug will best relieve your pain, because your individual brain chemistry will control what reacts best for you. All i know is, i would never survive as the managing partner of one of the biggest litigation firms in my city if i didnt have my Opana and, if used correctly, pain medication is a godsend. i just wish all the degenerates who abuse it when they suffer no pain would cut it out because they ruin it for those of us who need this stuff to survive...and believe me, those of us who are suffering are not "lucky" because we get these drugs (i have heard many an addict say that). There is nothing lucky about not being able to sleep more than 4 hours at a time because of excrutiating pain, and not being able to get out of bed in the morning because any movement hurts so bad it causes tears to well up in your eyes. Any person who truly has pain will tell you, they would trade every milligram of every med they have ever taken to have their pain disappear forever. No amount of $$$ or drugs make up for the countless ways continued and intense pain diminishes my standard of living and enjoyment of life. Anyway, i hope this helped and sorry about the lecture at the end there...

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[TheNewLeft]

it`s true that a certain percentage of oxycodone is metabolized into oxymorphone...just as hydrocodone is metabolized into hydromorphone....

but the drugs oxycodone and hydrocodone are active themselves.