Drug info - Pure Liquid Adrenaline

[dirk]

Originally Posted by Psych0naut

If you want to have a nice adrenaline experience without dying of an overdose...... take up sky-diving, bungeejumping, basejumping, doing wheelies with 300km/hr on a Suzuki Hayabusa or trad/ artificial or extreme solo climbing. ........... and yes, I've been there and done that

Psych0naut, knowing what you know, don't you also think you should also warn about the other adverse effects of an adrenalin habit? (apart from the risks inherent in aquiring the fix).

cost?
tolerance?
habituation/addiction?
social isolation when in the company of non-users?
chronic boredom between doses?
binge usage?
physiotherapy bills?
relationship problems with non-users?
withdrawl effects?

I imagine D.F. has more than it's fair share of people who have (or have had) a bit of an adrenalin habit.

Anyone here care to comment on thier experience with this endogenous addictive drug?

[beentheredonethatagain]

cosmic ruler is telling the truth, unless he is so out of it that making up this very detailed story, I think he may be telling the truth, but then again Jatelka is the resident physcian.

sorry if you are getting shit over this cosmic, i want to believe you.

[drab4]

Swim has used adrenaline in the form of Epipens a few times as a pre workout boost prior to sparring or training in the gym. He doesn't find it has any use recreationally, but it does give a moderately good stimulant effect

He would imagine that using it IV would be unpleasant though. Epipens provide a subcutaneous dose of the drug, and that is the only route he has explored

[drab4]

Apologies I meant to say intramuscular rather than sub-q. Will figure out how to edit my posts shortly!

[lexifer]

Swim was once told that it was impossible, with a regular syringe, to get through the breast plate to give a shot to the heart(as shown in Pulp Fiction), as the needle would break/snap. Can anyone varify or disprove this?

[fnord]

Originally Posted by lexifer

Swim was once told that it was impossible, with a regular syringe, to get through the breast plate to give a shot to the heart(as shown in Pulp Fiction), as the needle would break/snap. Can anyone varify or disprove this?

As mentioned already in this thread,intracardial injections are very rare/the stuff of movies,and its much more effective administered either IV or via an endotracheal tube tube where it is absorbed via the bronchial tree and the capilary beds of the lungs,when adminsitered intracardialy they do not penetrate any bones.

[stoneinfocus]

wasn´t it a coke overdose in the movie? *ups* I was under the impression that white powder could only be coke not china-white. *lol*

[Fantasian]

Originally Posted by stoneinfocus

wasn´t it a coke overdose in the movie? *ups* I was under the impression that white powder could only be coke not china-white. *lol*

No thats exactly the problem, she sees the baggie and misjudges it thinking it is cocaine and snorts a roughly medium sized line 120mg (give or take). This dosage of snorted heroin (which is what it is) is clearly a big overdose to someone who is opiate naive. If you want refer back to the effects of him taking the drug in the car, he looks opiated and relaxed, not tweaked and wired. Also staying on topic - with a cocaine overdose you most certainly wouldnt be giving adrenaline i dont think.

[BlondieUK]

Swim isn't sure why all these posts are talking about injecting into the heart..

Swim was going to mix 1-2mgs with around 20mgs of water and inject IV..

From reading these posts, Swim still has no idea, it's ranged from a stimulant, to getting you fucked, killing you, and having no effect at all.

If someone could please read the question and give a relatively cohesive and informative response swim would be chuffed =)

[Fantasian]

Originally Posted by BlondieUK

Swim isn't sure why all these posts are talking about injecting into the heart..

Swim was going to mix 1-2mgs with around 20mgs of water and inject IV..

From reading these posts, Swim still has no idea, it's ranged from a stimulant, to getting you fucked, killing you, and having no effect at all.

If someone could please read the question and give a relatively cohesive and informative response swim would be chuffed =)

The problem you find is very few have actually self administered adrenaline, especially in the circumstances your trying to use it (recreationally). However in terms of in theory how it should feel is very similar to any adrenaline rush gained from anything normally. Ever nearly been hit by a car, or in a fight, it will feel similar however dosing will be very sensative and therefore a high dose and and overdose of adrenaline will be dangerous to the heart as well as feel very unpleasant due to associated anxeity - especially IV. IF SWIY is going to undertake this as applies with doing anything which has not been done before, start with a low dosage and work up gradually, and if SWIY does undertake it post an experience report so the next guy who wants to inject pure adrenaline knows whether it was a nice stimulation or a living hell. Regardless of what SWIYou chooses to do, the effects should only last a relatively short period ie 10 minutes or so, adrenaline should be metabolised fairly quickly. Remember however that it's going to trigger that fight or flight response, so try to prepare yourself for the latter, or your going to feel pretty stupid when you get a huge adrenaline rush and start fighting/smashing things and regret it later. (of couse not to mention that running or doing anything that feels vaguely normal on adrenaline will put further pressure on your heart) but now im just rambling.
Hopefully that cleared things up a little, if not im sorry
All the best whichever option SWIY chooses.

[fnord]

Originally Posted by Fantasian

The problem you find is very few have actually self administered adrenaline, especially in the circumstances your trying to use it (recreationally).

Originally Posted by fnord

Small doses(no idea of the actual dose)have produce a enjoyable intense rush,larger doses have proved downright frighting,one large dose had a test subject standing outside with no shirt on, sweating during a very cold maine winter day. start low and work up,oral and nasel produced no effects,IV was the only working method tested. This would be something very bad to do if one is uncertian of any potential heart conditions.

Moron started out IV use at 5-10 units off a dibetic syringe,but this dosent say much seeing as there are different potencys of adrenaline vials.

Sorry i cant be more helpfull.

[drab4]

Originally Posted by BlondieUK

Swim isn't sure why all these posts are talking about injecting into the heart..

Swim was going to mix 1-2mgs with around 20mgs of water and inject IV..

From reading these posts, Swim still has no idea, it's ranged from a stimulant, to getting you fucked, killing you, and having no effect at all.

If someone could please read the question and give a relatively cohesive and informative response swim would be chuffed =)

Hi mate. As mentioned earlier, Swim's used adrenaline intramuscularly several times before. For him, it has no recreational value

Take the side effects of amphetamine use - but minus the feel good factor - that's the best approximation Swim can give

This can be moderately useful in a physical training environment. But it simply does not make one feel good. The effect is not pleasant, rather it can be somewhat unpleasant, putting one in a negative and aggressive frame of mind due to the physical effects one experiences. The racing heart, cold fingers from vasoconstriction, increased breathing rate, the muscular tension along with tremors, the sweating, and sometimes headache. If one was not in a training environment such as sparring or weight lifting, Swim imagines that the effects of the drug would simply be the above unpleasant effects, accompanied by mental nervousness due to those effects

One could try the drug recreationally if one wished, but seriously Swim would advise IM rather than IV. The onset is fast even through the IM route and Swim thinks that IV use should probably be confined to medical emergencies only (though he is not a medical professional and has no experience with IV'ing adrenaline, the IV onset must surely be stronger and faster than with IM, Swim would imagine?)

Then again, Swim cannot really comment on IV use as he simply has never done it

Perhaps Swim and his friends are all unusual in their reactions to IM adrenaline use, but this is what Swim and his friends have all found. It is a training aid, nothing more, and not even a great one at that

These are just Swim's personal experiences