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Old 18-03-2008, 06:39
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Kitty Crack Guide

About a month ago I discovered freebasing ritalin. At first it sounds kind of lame, and kind of junkie like and desperate. But if we peel away the taboo of smoking perscription pills, we can get down to something that is pretty cool. There isn't too much information out there about it so after much trial and error SWIM has came up with a small guide.

==Materials==
-Water
-Empty Water/Soda bottle
-Something sharp(to cut the bottom of the bottle off)
-Aluminum Foil
-Baking Soda
-100 mg Ritalin or any generic version which is NOT extended release. (You can use any amount you want, 100mg is what I do to get a nice long 4-5 hour high. You can achieve the same feeling with only 20mg but the high isn't nearly as long.)

==INSTRUCTIONS==
1.Rip a square of aluminum foil that is atleast 5" by 5". It can be as big as you want to but thats a pretty good size. Put the non shiny side facing upwards.

2. Crush up 20mg of ritalin and make it into a line. Measure out an equal amount of baking soda and mix them together. (You made them each into a line so you can fairly accurately make them equal.) You can try adding a little less or more baking soda depending on how you feel about the taste. After trial and error SWIM thinks that 1 part soda 1 part ritalin makes the smoke the least harsh and kind of sweet.

3. Put the pile of baking soda/ritalin in the middle of the foil. Add a few drops of water until it is competely damp and with a little water on the sides of the pile. If you use too much water its fine it'll just take longer to dry.

4. Use your finger and just work the pile into a circle. Just make a solid circle that covers most of the foil. Just set the foil somewhere and let it dry for a few minutes... or you can just hold it under a light and it'll dry really fast.

5. While your waiting for it to dry a bit you should cut the bottom off of the bottle you should have gotten. (Make sure the bottle is empty). This will be your inhaling device.

6. After just a few minutes it should be dry enough to smoke, it doesnt have to be completely dry... just make sure no water is flowing around.

7. Have half the sheet hanging over the edge of a table/counter/whatever.

8. You are now ready to smoke it. How you smoke it is you put the lighter under the foil and light it. Line up the bottom of your smoking appartus( bottle) above where your lighter is. Light the ligher and the foil should turn black and smoke will come up. Inhale slowly through the mouth of the bottle because the smoke can be kind of harsh.. Hold the smoke in as long as possible and after a few hits you will feel a very intense ritalin high. Go at whatever speed you feel comfortable. Just keep working around the circle. Whats nice about smoking the sheets is you can stop if you are getting to speedy or feeling too intense and hold off for a few minutes till you come down a little. You can do it at your own pace.

9. The first 2 or 3 sheets (40-60mg worth) go pretty fast (probably an hour or less), you'll be taking hit after hit and loving it. Slowly getting higher and higher. It is a very intense feeling and you can make 20mg of ritalin feel the same as snorting 60mg. After your 3rd sheet you will slow down a little, you're hits will be more spaced out and you'll only take hits to maintain the high over a long peroid of time. You can stretch the last two sheets (assuming you started with 100mg of ritalin) for about 3 more hours actually. As long as you pace yourself well. What usually happens is i'll take a hit and start talking to people and then when i start to feel the high fade go for another.

==THOUGHTS==

Thats how you make and smoke it... here are a few things SWIM has noticed/expierenced/etc.

If you've done crack sheets before (using the same method except with coke) you'll notice the high is similiar. It gives you the same light headed, energy, and some euphoria. Of course crack sheets are much more euphoric... energy... and much more pleasureable.. But this is a very great alternative to crack for someone who doesnt want to get messed up with that crap, but still wants an experience thats decently similiar to it. The high lasts much longer than crack (crack only lasting 5-15 minutes)... You will notice that your lips will numb sometimes... SWIM can't decide if this is a placebo because SWIM has smoked crack using the same method before, but other people have told SWIM they also get numb lips sometimes.

The ritalin sheet initial feeling acts similiar to crack... the comedown starts right after you exhale. You'll notice the most pleasurable, intense feelings are when you are holding in the smoke... which is why you try to zero the smoke. Then for about 15 minutes you will have a really intense and pleasureable ritalin high, just a little notch below the initial feeling. After that it'll gradually slow down and eventually at like an hour you'll start feeling fairly normal again.

The exact length and timings of the high depend greatly and SWIM cannot tell exactly... The above times are rough guesses. If you smoke the 100mg of sheets as described in the above directions and pace your hits you can get a intense euphoric high for about 4 hours..

But if you are looking for an even more intense high from it you should smoke a few sheets as fast as you can, instead of pacing. The high will be significantly shorter but the euphoria and speediness and everything else is greater. Be careful using this method though because if you smoke too much too fast you run the risk of having health issues... SWIM has never had any issues but since you can have a heart attack from too much cocaine/ritalin/adderall SWIM would imagine it is very possible with the sheets if you do too many too fast. SWIM suggests 20mg sheets because this seems to produce just the right amount of smoke per area (not too much not too little) and if you use more than 20 you run the risk of having more ritalin hitting your system at once.. Which might be bad for your heart (SWIM has never had more than 20mg of ritalin on a sheet so SWIM can't say for sure)

A fair warning though, it is adidicting while you are doing it. After you take a hit a few seconds later youre going to want more. SWIM wouldn't let that discourage you from attempting the sheets method though, mainly because that "addictive" feeling (its the EXACT same feeling as when your smoking crack) doesn't linger long after you are off the drug. Unlike Crack which has a tendancy to sink its teeth into your mind for a day or two after.

In the long run i'd say the addiction potential is the same as ritalin is.. Maybe a little more. If you can handle not getting addicted to ritalin or adderrall you can easily handle this method.

Healthwise... smoking all the binders and fillers probably isn't the best thing to do daily. Limit the sheet usage to once a week, unless you want to do an extraction of the methylphenidate, then it should be a bit better for your lungs.. By limiting your use to once a week you eliminate chance for addiction... tolerence... and make most (if not all) lung problems nonissues.

All and all I find it to be a nice treat of a drug. One that you shouldn't abuse, shouldn't do often, but when you do it it is a nice refreshment from the norm.

==Pros==
-Speedy/Euphoric/Crack like high.
-It makes 10mg of ritalin feel like 30mg.
-While it has a strong "temporary" addiction (see cons), the addiction potential is probably the exact same as snorting/eating ritalin.

==Cons==
-Instead of gradually getting higher like with oral consumption, you start at the top and come down the second after you exhale.
-Because of that you'll want another hit very soon after your last hit.
-Which means you're going to want more and more (while your feeling the effects of it that is)... and if you have a large supply of ritalin (such as a perscription) it might be challenging to tell yourself to stop for the day.
-Try your best to limit the available amount to 100mg. This is a good number SWIM has found causes you to have a very long lasting high while not overdoing it. SWIM urges you not to overdue it. You might run into heart issues because your heart will be beating much faster and your body has to work much harder. And you don't want to have a heart attack do you?
-And if you do run out of ritalin... it is very depressing because you'll want another hit but its not gonna happen because its not possible. This feeling subsides after a little bit, so its not too bad.
-This method doesn't help you study or do homework, kind of. While it does give you the same effects as snorting/eating (and more)(and more intense) you'll find that the urge to do more hits outweighs your urge to do something constructive such as homework. SWIM spent the past 5 hours doing the 5 sheets instead of doing the homework SWIM was originally trying to do.
-You probably wont be able to fall asleep right away.. If you do the sheets for a good 4 hours and stop you'll get pretty tired once the high wears off and you should be plenty tired.
-Teeth grinding... enough said.
-You'll notice that as soon as you take that last hit off the last sheet, you will probably be trying to think of how to get more right now. This feeling is kind of scary to some people but be assured it goes away.

So overall it may not look like it... but the pros outweigh the cons. The high is very nice. The process of making the sheets and the act of smoking them adds an element of "fun", compared to just eating them.

==TIPS==
1. Do it only once a week or so... this ensure you dont develop a tolerence to it and that you don't get addicted.
2. Do only 100mg in a session... SWIM thinks doing more might be pushing your body a little hard. You can do less if you want. Doing just 40mg will make you achieve the same intense feeling but having the extra 60mg allows you to "ride" the high for a few extra hours.
3. You'll want to get more once youre out.. Don't. This fuels addictive like behavior and even if you think you need more, you don't need any more. This feeling of "needing" goes away as your high fades.
4. Respect your body and if you feel like your heart hurts.. or you feel exhausted... stop. Your body is smarter than you and it knows when enough is enough. Also if your lungs feel sore.. or hurt.. or burn then stop for the day.
5. Respect the drug.
6. There really isn't any self control once you start. SWIM intended to do 40mg of sheets and to save 60mg for the next day but after the second sheet SWIM convinced himself to do one more... then one more... then to finish it off. SWIM considers himself to be VERY strong willed but the urge to do more is extremely strong. Just make sure you only have access to the amount you want to do, and no more.

==FYI==
SWIM starting writing this guide after SWIM's second sheet. Swim finished typing this about 30 minutes after finishing the 5th sheet. Currently SWIM still feels a ritalin effect. Energitic, Focused, Awake, Slight euphoria, and of course a Slight desire for more. SWIM told me to apologize for spelling errors or any rambling that occured. SWIM reread through this and fixed all the errors SWIM saw, but SWIM is sure there are many.

SWIM isn't interested in people bashing this method of taking ritalin. SWIM understands that all in all this isn't the healthiest way to consume a drug, but still SWIM felt that educating people on SWIM's experience with this method was the best thing to do.

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well put together
Interesting.
thx for the usefull post
interesting guide man, descent read
Nice guide
Very acurate
very useful for me, ++++
Very informative on the best way in SWIM's opinion to use Ritalin
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An excellent piece of work - many thanks
very informative
Interesting and accurate guide.
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Old 21-03-2008, 14:09
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Re: SWIM's Kitty Crack Guide

SWIM's ferret has tried it and doesnt feel nothing at all, just a burning in the lungs and the throat. The ferret says she'll try it again soon. I hope she can share the experience with others.

And btw, she really appreciate this guide.
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Old 14-07-2008, 05:28
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Re: SWIM's Kitty Crack Guide

Swim just tried this except with one methlyphenidate 20mg SR because this is all swim has. Swim does not think he crushed pill up enough because there was still a big glob of yellow that did not dissolve. Maybe these are fillers...

Lips very numb while smoking. Very little speedy effect vs oral or insufilization. Swim did take a crushed 20mg orally earlier then a half 20mg crushed lil later. maybe the come down from this kept the speedy feeling away.

all in all swim dont tihnk its that great of an idea. Felt nice for a second but it splattered when burnt it splattered like grease in a pan? tasted very bad but not harsh.

also swim is experienced in smoking oxycontin on foil which is much more intense so maybe swim was looking for something different. Swim thinks he needs to get some meth since swim smokes beans (oxy) no more. but swim really doesnt wanna do that.

heartburn anyone?

why wouldnt time released work if its still a tab and i crush it?

I

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Old 02-10-2008, 21:04
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Re: SWIM's Kitty Crack Guide

Interesting post indeed olddirtycr

SWIM gets Ritalin as a prescription since SWIM was 17 years old. SWIM took it on and off and now isn't really too interested at ingesting that stuff orally. So SWIM kept on playing with the idea of extracting the potent chemical and removing all that binding agent stuff they put into tablets. SWIM was excited when reading the post, but in the end a bit disappointed because this method does not rid the good from the bad stuff.

SWIM once burned some of that Ritalin powder on aluminum foil by its self and the stuff turned nasty brown with a horrendous, almost unbearable smell. Maybe the baking soda makes the taste less awful, but knowing that SWIM would be smoking all that other stuff as well is not a nice thought.

Is there a way to extract the Methylphenidate by its self? Does anyone have any experience or tips on this?
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Old 30-10-2008, 23:14
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Re: SWIM's Kitty Crack Guide

dude, you aren't extracting by this procedure. if you do it by its self, the form the ritalin is in won't fully combust, leaving you with all that residue. the whole purpose of this procedure is to create a free-base form of the methyphenidate salt. the procedure can be done, i imagine with ammonia chloride or NaOH, but each posses a much higher risk factor.

gmeziscool2354 added 20 Minutes and 7 Seconds later...

i can't edit,but doing it just with ritalin would be less effecient than, say, smoking ritalin in a marijuana pipe or putting crushed ritalen in a cigerette

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Old 31-10-2008, 07:09
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Re: SWIM's Kitty Crack Guide

The problem with not extracting the methylphenidate has already been mentioned above. Now how about visiting the boiling temperature of methyphenidate HCl? I found a reference to 226 C., which I have not confirmed for accuracy. If that is correct, there would be no reason to freebase the extracted material in order to vaporize it.
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Old 02-11-2008, 03:25
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Re: SWIM's Kitty Crack Guide

I would have tried it this eve if I could just find some soda.
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Old 02-11-2008, 18:46
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Re: SWIM's Kitty Crack Guide

Just an update since SWIM can't edit.

Further experimentation leads SWIM to believe that as stated above, no baking soda is necassarry to make it smokeable. Ritalin is smokeable as is. The rest of techniques stay the same and SWIM suggests some downers for when you are done.
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Re: SWIM's Kitty Crack Guide

swims also curious as to why the time released ritalin wouldn't work as this is all swim has available right now
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Re: SWIM's Kitty Crack Guide

nice guide gonna post experience soon
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Old 03-12-2008, 18:45
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Re: SWIM's Kitty Crack Guide

SWIM tried making 1 sheet with 30mg with an equal part of baking soda. He doesn't normally do stims and took 50mg last night oer the course of 4hrs, and was able to sleep. He also took 2 of the 27mg TR pills orally and has been smoking the plate for about 20 minutes. Are tiny chunks suppose to stay intact as he has it spread out? He doesn't know if he did it right but will try to upload pictures in a minute or two. Also should SWIM be smoking it like tar? SWIM doesn't think he's gotten a good hit in yet, so he won't judge this method. Some more explanation on EXACTLY how it should be spread and smoked would be appreciated. Also would using a lightbulb vape work? SWIM doesn't see why it wouldn't and it would probably help him get bigger hits.

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Ok SWIM made one more sheet since his last attempt was failure for the most part. He only used 20mg this time and spread it out a lot less so it was more "concentrated". There were barely any little chunks left this time. Also he is getting a lot more smoke. The high is similar to crack but not as powerful. SWIM is content with the buzz since it is much better than caffeine but plans to use it in the same way. Smoking it also feels different then swallowing or snorting for him, and he doesn't feel the medical effects as much (concentration) but it could be a weird placebo.

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Re: SWIM's Kitty Crack Guide

How about all the binders and the fillers in the pills?

Cleaning

You can clean out the Methylphenidate HCl out of the pills by just doing a HWE (Hot Water Extraction). Or by dissolving it in isopropyl alcohol or ethanol (also called ethyl alcohol, pure alcohol). Then just filter it and let the solution (be it the alcohol type or the HWE) evaporate.

So 5 simple steps

1) Crush pills to a fine powder.
2) To this powder add your type alcohol. Or hot destilled water (about 60 C)
3) Let it dissolve.
4) Filter until very clear. (Use a chemical grade filter or coffe filter)
5) Let the liquid dry on a shallow pyrex baking dish and wait for the liquid to be evaporated.

But how much baking soda is needed after cleaning? And how about the ammonia/ether method?

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Re: SWIM's Kitty Crack Guide

hey guys. dumb qustion, but what is baking soda? (exact chemichal name)
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Re: SWIM's Kitty Crack Guide

sodium bicarbonate(baking soda)

also SWIY could check google/wiki lots of info

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Re: SWIM's Kitty Crack Guide

SWIM wants to know if applying a flame directly to the "crack" methylphenidate will harm it.

He was thinking about smoking a bit of tobacco(gross!) out of a pipe, then sprinkling the basified methylphenidate over the ashes, then applying a flame directly to the methylphenidate, and inhaling the smoke through the pipe. Do people just prefer to use foil, or is it necessary to heat the drug indirectly?
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Old 30-12-2008, 23:35
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Re: SWIM's Kitty Crack Guide

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SWIM wants to know if applying a flame directly to the "crack" methylphenidate will harm it.

He was thinking about smoking a bit of tobacco(gross!) out of a pipe, then sprinkling the basified methylphenidate over the ashes, then applying a flame directly to the methylphenidate, and inhaling the smoke through the pipe. Do people just prefer to use foil, or is it necessary to heat the drug indirectly?
SWIM thinks it has to be indirect, although he did sprinkle some on some cannabis and uses a Hakko to smoke, so the temp is very high....it made his high a little different but he wasn't trying too hard. This substance has a HORRIBLE crash.
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Re: SWIM's Kitty Crack Guide

How burnt do you let your foil/mixture get? Should it be browned or completely blackened?
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How burnt do you let your foil/mixture get? Should it be browned or completely blackened?
SWIM did it till it got black...smoke gets harsher but there is still something left in it, when it's brown.
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Re: SWIM's Kitty Crack Guide

is metadate extended release? its in a capsal with powder in it, does that mean i cant smoke it ifi open it and act like its a normal crushed up pill?
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Re: SWIM's Kitty Crack Guide

SWIM has tried this a few times with concerta. He did water extractions on the concerta before basifying, however that didn't seem to remove many binders if any at all. He found that the smoke was incredibly harsh, and it was difficult to even take a decent hit because of the pain in his throat. After smoking multiple consecutive hits that amounted to approximately 15mg, he'd feel nothing but a bit of anxiety, get a numb mouth, and a severe headache that persisted for the rest of the day. And also, for the next few days he'd have a cough. He tried this on 3 separate occasions using both direct and indirect heating methods, but the results were the same each time. I'm quite sure that the issue is with all of the additives present in concerta that aren't found in other brands, and SWIM would be willing to try this again if he had access to IR Ritalin, or similar pills. SWIM would recommend anyone that's thinking about trying to make crack concerta not to waste their time or health.
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Re: SWIM's Kitty Crack Guide

SWIM and a good friend have free based generic methylphenidate several times and smoked it off foil. They have very low tolerances and usually split a 20mg pill, which leaves them with a bunch of energy. However, when SWIM smokes MPD FB, he gets a very euphoric, unfocused high. SWIM and his friend consider smoking MPD to be the most "fun" route of administration.
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Re: SWIM's Kitty Crack Guide

SWIM tried this... many different ways. It always burned into a brown crust-like substance. The smoke was harsh but he felt no effect. If there is a right way to do it does anyone have a different method?
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Re: SWIM's Kitty Crack Guide

Swim is has to start smoking R because of nasal problems from snorting. Swim lives with his sister and wants to know how strong the scent is for smoking R? Any way to have a clean scent so swim can party without getting caught?
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Re: SWIM's Kitty Crack Guide

an a/b extraction would leave the hcl crystal suitable to smoke but is really waste of time and each extraction will waste some of the mph hcl and since is only 10mg, unless swiy got 50 or more pills
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Re: SWIM's Kitty Crack Guide

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Originally Posted by killerfromsky View Post
How about all the binders and the fillers in the pills?

Cleaning

You can clean out the Methylphenidate HCl out of the pills by just doing a HWE (Hot Water Extraction). Or by dissolving it in isopropyl alcohol or ethanol (also called ethyl alcohol, pure alcohol). Then just filter it and let the solution (be it the alcohol type or the HWE) evaporate.

So 5 simple steps

1) Crush pills to a fine powder.
2) To this powder add your type alcohol. Or hot destilled water (about 60 C)
3) Let it dissolve.
4) Filter until very clear. (Use a chemical grade filter or coffe filter)
5) Let the liquid dry on a shallow pyrex baking dish and wait for the liquid to be evaporated.

But how much baking soda is needed after cleaning? And how about the ammonia/ether method?
ok swim did this with concerta and isopropyl alcohol using 540 mg (10 54mg pills) and got prolly about 70%-80% of the time coating out however it took about 3 days to completely evaporate and then when scraped off the bottom of the pyrex dish it came off like a sheet of paper... it had a cyrstaline type of pattern/texture but its still a bit moist and will not chop up (its almost like trying to chop black tar herion up into a snortable powder, very tedious and time consuming). swim was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on how to extract the methylphenidate HCI from the concerta? also when swim took the first time coating layer off the pill is divided into 3 sections a pink part (being the smallest) a white layer in the middle and brown on the end (about the same amount as the white) i was wondering if anyone knew the difference between the parts. my theory was they are all the same just that the different sections disolving over a longer period of time. please correct me if im wrong.

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