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i know it cant be just some guy the a bachlors degree. (could it?) in my head it must be pretty serious to be able to put prints on there. and mix all the chemicals and to produce a pill. and theyre everywere! i dont know i cant really explain what i mean. ive met people who cook meth. and people who grow pot and bla bla! someone climb in my brain and make my thoughts appear clear on the monitor |
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whoever makes it would need to be well educated in chemistry,need a source for the precusors chemicalsand plenty of money for secruity and the lab. Edited by: dr ACE
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if you have Bsc in Chemistry or similar,the synthesis is pretty straightforward;but as i type this there are these "martian" pills floating around that contain mdp2p,and a lot of impurities,which shows that there are a lot of people who are "making" drugs but no nothing about chemistry(but still they sell the pills) |
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well the recipe ive seen looked pretty straight forward, i know most of the techniques from studying a-level chemistry. not saying it isnt hard, just not out of reach of your ordinary person. with a bit of practice of course!
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Its quite easy with a little previous knowledge in chem, and of course getting the precursors.
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Yes, but that isn't the biggest thing. To be mass produced would take someone with massive funds, connections to be able to obtain large quantities of the chemicals they need. They'd probably have paid off some law enforcement officers in their area. After the MDMA is produced in an insane amount it must all be pressed into pills. To do that many at a time requires an insane amount of money and equipment. But that's not it. Now it has to secretly get to distributers who will sell this insane amount of MDMA. Some may go locally, some exported to go to other countries. While the MDMA can be synthesized by anyone with chemistry know how, the rest of this is some crazy big time shiznit. To make, press, and distribute that quantity without being caught takes a large criminal group. Most of the pills you see on the street I'm sure come from organized crime syndicates. These guys are big time like Tony Montana!Edited by: X-Dream |
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Oh yeah, and then they need to launder all that cash they make. Anyone know which countries are the biggest exporters of ecstasy? My guess from what I've heard is the Isreali mafia and from the Netherlands. |
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well if you took the time and dint get your ass beat or killed you could just take the yellow brick road back to the start ask the guy to ask the guy who he got it from and so on im sure it wont work but ay anythings worth a try
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The chances are the big distributors will have chemists who make the drugs for themin exchange fora salary or percentage of profits. I agree lots of the pills made come from the Netherlands. The DEA thinks so anyway, and pressure has been applied to the Dutch government to crack down more on drug exports. Laundering money is not that complicated. It usually incurs a loss but the profit margins for drug buisinesses are so high it doesn't really matter. Numerous methods exist. One for example involves a club owned by the traffiking gang. They get their own people to buy lots and lots of drinks or whatever with the drug money that is then seen as legitimate turnover. I've heard of some organisationsimporting lots of TV's, DVD players etc and selling them cheaply to generate clean revenue. While organisations like those that make the pills will have taken considerable investment to set up, they can knock out individual pills for next to nothing. SWIM was once quoted £2,500 for 10,000 pills, which works out at 25p each, and I know for a fact that the quotee was not importing but a regional distributor, which means a fairfew people will have made money on the pills up to that point.One can only guess at the pittens it actually takes to produce them.Edited by: biga |
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Don't forget casinos. What a better way than to have someone drop the money down, purposely lose, preto! Laundered money. If they are not the owners I'm sure the owner gets a nice chunk for the service. Still leads to this isn't the stuff done by some college dropout. Usually that's when you get the capsules going around a small region. I assume then the guy gets to greedy and gets busted.Edited by: X-Dream |
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