The New World Order

[msumegi]

(Note to Admin....I already posted this under a different a topic, but afterposting it Idecided I would rather it be it's own topic. So if you are gonna delete one of these please let it be the other one. Thank you)


After tripping hard on 5-meo-amt all last night I began to think that there wasonly one way to stop the New World Order machine from executing the plan for total world domination as outlined here:


http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion2.htm#PROTOCOL%20No.% 201


(disguised as a Jewish document to deflect blame from those who infact wrote it, incase it were ever discovered...and it was)


That is to write and dessemenate a plan to moblize the masses to subvert and eventually over throw the New World Order.


Just incase you are wondering who acctually did write that document I sited...they go by many names, The Hidden Hand, The Brain Trust, international bankers, 34th degree Masons, but the one I use is....


Illuminati

[29skidoo]

I love a good conspiracy. It's so much more fun</span> than the truth.



Check out the works of David Icke:



http://www.davidicke.com/

[29skidoo]

[msumegi]

Thank you for the link to that site. The link in that site on global governance really ties into what I have learned about the New World Order pan for complete world dominance. I didn't really have time to read the rest of the site so I don't know if the rest of the site makes him sound like a liar to you. But I do think that your comment that "I love a good conspiracy. It's so much more fun than the truth." makes a mockery of the important information you have uncovered in that site.

[29skidoo]

Yes, I mock. But I do so only to keep things in perspective. And it is
pointed at myself more than anyone else, for who am I to step on
anyone's beliefs.



The problem with most conspiracies is their unfalsifiable nature. That alone makes them suspect.



On the other hand, I am in total agreement with Icke - and countless
enlightened others - that too much power, influence, and wealth rests
in too few hands. And as such, I believe that something needs to be
done about it and soon. So let not my mockery obscure this point of our
agreement.



-peace-

[msumegi]

Well put.

[sunyata]

I have a scarier theory: There is no one at the top of the pyramid, the whole thing is out of control.

[diggitydawg]

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Edited by: diggitydawg

[Dr_H]

I agree with diggitydawg, if it is not barcodes it will be chips. 9/11 was the last crisis that THEY created and look at the milage THEY got with that one. Patriot act, homeland security etc. Bastards. Wallmart has started chipping some of their products. It has begun. . . .

[msumegi]

Current news regarding Verichip and other NWO plans is located here


www.prisonplanet.tv


www.infowars.com

[msumegi]

Originally Posted by sunyata

I have a scarier theory: There is no one at the top of the pyramid, the whole thing is out of control.

This is a scary theory. The pictures of the unfinished pyramid of the Illumaniti (back of US dollar bill) does show a disconnected top. The "all seeing eye" is not at the top of the parymid, but rather seperate from it. This could be a sign that the top of the Illuminati is not where you might imagine it to be.

[Dualpower]

There is no one at the top of the pyramid, the whole thing is out of control.

A single elite actually controlling the fate of humanity is ludicrous.



It's possible there are people on the top who have been on the top for
a long time. I think if they exist, they are more like bucking-bull
riders than controllers of our destiny.


Edited by: Dualpower

[manda]

These posts were unusal and very unlike what I usually think about.

Strange groups who want to change American society don't have power in my mind. These are the minority.

Do you guys seriously believe all Americans will act like obidient children if their constitution is threatened?

The only problem I see is Bush donating our troops to the Iraqi people to be tortured. Perhaps he will send more to protect the rights of the torturers themselves.

What I'm saying is, one day we may need our troops on our own soil, to protect us from evil people trying to take over our country!

If Bush doesn't deploy every soldier in America to Iraq, I think Americans as a people have the strength to fight *ussy groups that don't like democracy.

Wait- I have an idea! Send THEM to IRAQ!!!!

[brainwaxd]

there is no conspiracy



you are having paranoid delusions... it's all in your mind



you will forget this topic and never post about this subject again

[brainwaxd]

oh and i forgot... we WON'T be watching you

[diggitydawg]

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Edited by: diggitydawg

[manda]

Your point of view is very interesting, especially about voting being tallied by a select few on computers who can secretly alter the count. That I can see as possible.

As for Wal-Mart, they have no interest in recording what people do, their biz is selling affordable, attractive merchandise.

Once, I thought everything was "bugged" and my friends were "bugging" presents they'd give me. I was on more drugs than I could handle at the time.

I am a really nice, honest person. You can trust me. Wal-Mart's cool, dude.

[xctico]

"Do you guys seriously believe all Americans will act like obidient children if their constitution is threatened?
"



Yep, they already did. Check out the PATRIOT ACT.

Evenmore, they'll take anything the government throws at them spiced
with enought propaganda. Like that story of ecstasy making holes in the
brain... or marijane turning people into sex-hungry-assassins... or a
bullet going in and out of JFK drawing zigzags in ways that even
Stephen Hawkings' theories can't explain.

help me say: "Would you like some freedom fries with that?"





As for verichip. They won't enforce it into people, they'll make people
demand it! Think about it, it's the perfect credit card/driver
license/passport, you can't lose it, you can't get it stolen or
forfeit, you can't leave home without it.

Whoever doesn't comply will simply be sent to materialistic hell [yes, along with the amish]

[manda]

America!!! The greatest country in the world!
Where all people, from all lands came to for hope of BETTER lives, as to not live under oppression. Do you realize many people in less fortunate countries would prefer living as a prisoner in an American jail then face the horror, helplessness, poverty, and injustice that people in other countries face??
All I can see is the beloved faces of my dear Grandfather, and my beloved father. I miss my Grandfather so very much- more than I could ever tell you in a post. Both of these brave men fought to defend our freedom. I am very grateful the Nazi's were defeated. I am grateful to every brave man and woman who ever fought to defend my freedom.
America is the strongest country in the world. If you visited a military graveyard, it would probably give you some new things to think about, besides these people you believe are going to overthrow society as we know it. It must be very scary to actually believe this, and I'm sure you have some documentation of which you speak, about the chips and the plan.
Please though, have faith in our brave armed forces if that time comes. They have not let this country down yet.
I am not trying to be rude, just telling you this country is a wonderland, the land of the free.
No one here will be forced to wear chips. If it comes to that, I myself will fight with the billions of others. You are wrong. The democracy of America will not fall.

[xctico]

Manda, Here's a couple of points you're missing.





America is a continent, not a country, it goes from the Bering stretch
in the north all the way to the Land of Fire and Magellan's Stretch in
the south.



The USA is only a small part of America.





The US is the strongest country in the world.

That is true, today. But so was Rome in a given time, and Rome ruled
the world for nearly 2 thousand years, the US hasn't even been on top
for 2 decades, since the end of the cold war; it's been sharing the top
for about 60 years; still a small amount of time when compared to Rome.




The EU has the potencial of becoming the world's most powerfull economy
of the 21st century, right now they have the largest GDP and the
largest population, the largest trade acounts. All of this is reflected
in the fact that the EURO is dangerously gaining groud on the dollar.
The region's an strategic location, it was no coincidence that the
romans stablish their empire around the mediterranean sea.



As for soldiers, they are brave and heroic. But I'm not so sure about
the guys on top, generals and politicians. I'm affraid they have other
rea$on$ and they see soldiers only as numbers.



I am very gratefull the nazi's where defeated too. It was one of the
most awefull expressions of hate towards fellow human beings.

Also an excelent reason why to keep an eye on any leader</span>
with a powerfull army who defies international law and creates
concentration camps. Specially if such a leader was to rise at your own
country.

[manda]

Hey, that was intellectually stimulating...


As for the EURO gaining on the dollar, I am a dual citizen of here and Europe. My mother is 100% English, as over 3/4 of my family are as well. So if the EURO outvalues the dollar, it wouldn't really bother me as it would others who have no English roots.


Are you kind of saying there are countries that want to overthrow America, or did my high ass pull that out of a hat?Edited by: manda

[xctico]

Thanx.



There are countries trying to overthrow the US, not in some crazy
terrorist sense, but simply trying to compete for more resourses in a
global economy. There's always going to be a bunch of countries trying
to be #1.



I read from Jeffrey Sachs [profesor of economics, princeton]the other
day, that Asian central banks are in quite a dilema right now. They
have stocked a lot of dollars [Im talking trillions], and they are
losing a lot of money as the Euro gains ground. But if they switch to
Euros then the dollar goes kaput [monetary demand goes down, and so
does price] and they loose even more money, if they buy more dollars
then they get deeper in the shit, and if they do nothing they keep on
lossing money.



Life is but a series of decisions.

[manda]

Hey, have a good day- for me it's been a long one so bye
to everyone who posted here. Try not to ruin your today with worries of the future, live today as happily as you can!

Later xctico- Thanks for that little geography lesson!

[Dr_H]

I want to agree with a point that Xctico made. The soldiers do only what they are told, they cannot be blamed only honored. It is the people at the top that are responsible for what this wolrd is turning into.


Manda, I am sorry you lost your relatives. Verichip is real, it is happening. I had the option to chip my dogs 2 years ago at the vet. In Mexico last year they were testing it on prisoners. http://www.spychips.com/reports/verichip-fda.htmlHere is a link about the chip, Read it and be afraid. What do you know about Wallmart? They made the top ten worst corporations list last year along with coca cola. They also started chipping some of their products last year with more slated for this year. It is happening, it is real.


"It must be very scary to actually believe this, and I'm sure you have some documentation of which you speak, about the chips and the plan." Read the link Manda, it is scary not knowing, it is scary knowing but if you could chose your fear, which would it be?



I have been to a military graveyard and I have seen thousands of white crosses sticking up out of the grass. Yes it made me think, it made me think what a waste of human life. All these people died for someone ELSES idea of what right is. Look at Vietnam, That war was raging with draft in affect for a year or two before our goverment even admitted we were there let alone at war. We were not fighting for our freedom. We were there making other people fight for theirs so we could put a government in power that was more agreeable with U.S. We failed or I guess our Armed Forces did.


Of course we are the strongest right now, we have the most valuble resource of all . . . A country of consumers! We buy. America may or may not be the greatest ( I would not want to live anywhere else) but do you think there are any countries out there telling their people " We are 33rd from the greatest!" or "We are Last" I am sure alot of countries think they are the greatest and most of them probably tell their people that they are. I am sure they are not telling their people "hey America is number one". I don't think that we have been land of the free for a while now, deffinately not since the Patriot act, Homeland Security, manditory minimums, 3 Strikes Law. All of these fly in the face of the constitution. The constitution has degraded beyond repair. All the amendments and laws that nick and chip away at it have left it in a state of similar to that of swiss cheese.


Xctico, I don't want topick to much but North America and Sout America are two continents not one.


Asia, Africa, Antarctica
Australia, Europe, too
North America
South America
Seven continents for you! some little song from a teacher website.


Manda said"No one here will be forced to wear chips. If it comes to that, I myself will fight with the billions of others. " Gotta ask ya what billions you are talking about? America's population is almost 300million. India is projected to reach 1 billion this year. There is only 6.5billion on the planet. I think Xctico had it right"As for verichip. They won't enforce it into people, they'll make people demand it! Think about it, it's the perfect credit card/driver license/passport, you can't lose it, you can't get it stolen or forfeit, you can't leave home without it." This is how it will happen, this is how it always happens. A crisis precedes a new law.


Manda you have got to stop watching Fox media. Go rent the movie "Outfoxed" It talks about the owner of Fox network, Rupert Murdock. He owns 300 newspapers, 150 magazines, 150television stations, all of Fox network, 20th century Fox, etc. Hehas an audience of 4 billionnot counting overlap. Can you see how if there is something this man wants you to think or buy, how easy it is for him to make it happen?


Damn, i got all fired up. Sorry if I'm going over the top but the more you know the worse it gets. Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean their not after you.

[xctico]

Dr_H, as for America, come cartographers divide it in two continents
[mostly those from the US], but it is kind of weird for me to picture
it that way, since I can go to south america walking from here. [I'm in
the southernmost tip of north america, or southern central america].
And I thought continents where supposed to be separated by a large body
of water. But in the end it's just a matter of semantics, as long as we
agree in america being a continent or two, not a country.



Do you know that southamerica is becoming a block just like the EU?
They signed the threaty that makes the union official last december.









On a more serious ground. If you look at history, a unipolar world has
always been more unstable than a bipolar world. In the bipolar world
every conflict is related to the two big powers, so there's relative
stability. On the unipolar world, every conflict envolves the mayor
power, and some minor force, so there's no way to keep control of all
possible minor forces. The cannon becomes a clumsy weapon when it has
to face an army of mosquitoes.

All great empires fall for one of two reasons, they grow too large and
become unable to manage the logisics involved in their own growth. Or
they get replaced by a new rising empire.



Here's one for you guys to think about. The Roman empire never really
fell, it just went underground. If you look at history, every mayor
power since the fall of Rome has been a former part of Rome. [the US is
in a way, since it was created by the descendants of Rome{brittain was
a part of Rome}]. The Catolic church is a part of the roman empire, so
is england, france, spain, italy, the middle east...

Every nation that has had control over the world in the last 2000 years was at one point Rome.



So here's the real question. With the unification of europe [and now
turkey, leaving them just one step away from the middle east] are we
witnessing the birth of an empire, or the waking of a sleeping giant?

If you ask me, I believe is the second.