Combinations - Rolling with Kratom?

[Graduisic]

swim likes the euphoria caused by kratom and thinks that the buzz would go really well with MDMA. has any swiy tried this combination? safe? thanks

[geezaman]

Hey there SWIGrad,

Snuffkin wondered about the same combination recently.

Info found elsewhere suggested the increase in blood pressure caused by each substance may mean mixing them would be dangerous. Over stimulation was another potential issue highlighted.

On page 3 of the Kratom combinations thread SWISnapper (post 55) mentions experiencing "uncomfortable tachycardia" following using Kratom after a heavy dose of methylone (which is quite similar to MDMA).

Also SWIShivaKiva in the same thread (post 64) states :

Originally Posted by shivakiva2112

It is risky to combine kratom with strong stimulants because of the risk of high blood pressure and everything that can come from that. This is advice SWIM received from a pharmacologist with extensive knowledge of the subjects. Just a FYI for everybody out there who has mentioned the combination... .

Guess this explains why there is a lack of reports on the combination.

Peace,
G

[JesseXTC]

Swim doesnt think that this is a safe combination, as MDMA is telling ones body and heart to speed up, while the kratom is telling ones body to slow down. The strain caused by this can damage ones body and heart and isn't safe to do. It's the same general idea as mixing opiates with MDMA. Swim suggests saving the kratom or opiates for the comedown, as they help greatly and take away that strung out nasty feel swim gets after a long night (or 2 nights) out partying with my good friend MDMA. Stay safe and have fun!

Jesse