Combinations - Z-Drugs and Alcohol

[lolomgwtfbbq]

Does anybody know if it's safe to mix ambien with alcohol?</font>

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good question, answer is no, it leads to blacking out

[ernesto]

Do not drink alcohol while taking zolpidem. Alcohol will increase drowsiness and may increase dizziness while you are taking zolpidem, which could be dangerous.

Do not stop taking zolpidem suddenly if you have been taking it for more than 1 or 2 weeks. This may cause withdrawal symptoms and make you uncomfortable. Talk to your doctor if you need to stop treatment with zolpidem Edited by: Micklemouse

[mattp]

SWIM has mixed the two of them accidently (meant to take a xanax
bar...). You black out a lot easier and faster. You will probably pass
out from it. Mix low doses and you may be ok, just be careful.

[lolomgwtfbbq]

It doesn't matter, sources don't belong in any forum other than the sources forum, yo.</font>

[gordonb]

Tangle with alcohol.. seems it has wacky interactions with the brain... Reading text off a monitor caused the line to be focused on to be a different shade than other lines of text being read..

Maybe how the brain operates behind the scenes and brought out by the combination visually.. The text was a completely lighter color.. light grey compared to the rest of the dark grey lines.. weird stuff..

[Forthesevenlakes]

swim has had some bizarre visual distortion with this combination. his vision would seem to zoom in on certain objects as if he were able to pan in and out like a camera.

this was accompanied by bizarre running narrations and feelings that swim was sober, but consciously he knew he was not.

he did not wish to repeat the experience and did not mix the two, nor take lunesta itself at all after that.

[Benzhead]

I have no personal experience with Lunesta(Eszopiclone), with or without alcohol, but chemically, the molecule is a stereoisomer of Imovane(Zopiclone).

This may be significant as some patients on Imovane therapy report visual changes up to and including hallucinations.

Adding alcohol to a sedative/hypnotic will likely increase drowsiness, etc., and may acccount for the alteration in visual perception that SWIY experienced...although I am not aware of the mechanism that would account for this, unless alcohol is a true Lunesta potentiator, rather than simply another CNS depressant.

Of course mixing CNS depressants is never a wise thing to do. That's my disclaimer

[DrMuffy]

Yeah SWIM took like 8 mg once and drank bout three shots worth of soco, and SWIM was enjoying it for a while, but then he got realllly tired, and ended up passed out on a recliner

[Ryu]

For historic purposes ill reply to this 2 years on. SWIM once took 20mg zopiclone + 25mg Diazepam + roughly 4 shots of bacardi 37.5% abv. SWIM expericnced extreme hallucincations, complete loss of balance/motor function and severe respitory depression. SWIM then slept and woke up 37 hours later with a mild hangover and a greater respect for benzos.

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Love the last sentence. Welcome btw.

[moda00]

Originally Posted by Ryu

For historic purposes ill reply to this 2 years on. SWIM once took 20mg zopiclone + 25mg Diazepam + roughly 4 shots of bacardi 37.5% abv. SWIM expericnced extreme hallucincations, complete loss of balance/motor function and severe respitory depression. SWIM then slept and woke up 37 hours later with a mild hangover and a greater respect for benzos.

Just a heads up-
20 mg Zopiclone was stated. The usual dose of Zopiclone from the prescribing information is 5-7.5 mg for healthy adults at bedtime. So a 20mg recreational dose is about 3-4 times the recommended therapeutic dose in this case. However, the thread is about eszopiclone (called Lunesta here in my country) and the recommended therapeutic dose is 1-2mg at bedtime. So, for anyone reading this and wondering, please be wary when differentiating between related compounds that may have similar names- but very different dosing requirements.

swiRyu, glad swiy survived the experience and emerged with a lesson learned

[TheBlackPope]

I am overage and prescribed so I will not swim this one.

I like to drink, and I've realized that drinking small amounts w/ my ambien gets me buzzed and an excellent nights sleep.

How many beers/glasses of wine is it ok to NOT DIE w/ 12.5mg of ambien CR?

For the recreation

[Jatelka]

Your flamingo may be overage and prescribed, but they then go on to mention "Recreation". In many parts of the world using prescription meds outside of the way they are prescribed IS illegal. Therefore SWIMing is mandatory.

and also:

"Please always include the chemical name of pharmaceutical drugs in your posts. This can be easily obtained from Google or other search engine. Doing so will avoid confusion on this international forum. Thank you."

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[TheBlackPope]

Ya I noticed that sticky after I posted it, sorry.

I was thinking I didn't need to swim because the Ambien doesn't say that you can't drink, it just warns you about drinking. I just want to know how much I can consume w/o dying.

For Harm reduction purposes that should be included w/ the Ambien prescription.

[pixplzthx]

The Kid around the corner has had "shots" of Nyquil with Ambien™, so I would have a hard time believing that a driug would create such adverse effects. TKATC just simply seems to fall asleep sooner.

What pill on you on? It it is the 10s, cut one and half and experiment lightly.

[TheBlackPope]

I am on ambien CR, I take them as I'm supposed to.

It is 12.5mg.

I have always been told, don't mix downers and alcohol, you will DIE!

So how much alcohol can I mix w/ this w/o dieng, aprox.?

[Abrad]

Expect extreme amnesia, stupid behaviour as well as a terrible hangover. SWIM was foolish enough to try this combination once, he took 10mg of zolpidem after a nights drinking.
Long story short he spent the next few days apologising to various people who he managed to wrong in various ways which I will not elaborate on.

The hangover is pure hell. The only way I can describe it is that SWIM felt like every millilitre of water had evaporated from his body and his muscles had turned to styrofoam. This may sound bizzare but I can assure you that SWIM was not amused at the time.

In short, don't try it.

[TheBlackPope]

I drink wine w/ it everynight and love the buzz swim gets, so I'm assume swim will love being drunk but he doesn't want to die.

[Psych0naut]

The problem with Stilnoct(zolpidem) is is they cause incredibly strong amterograde amnesia, and is well know for people causing weird shit.
After taking several Stilnocts you start to act weird, and often forget you some Stilnoct, and so take more. When alcohol is added to the mix, this phenomenon will happen even much earlier, and than one starts taking more Stilnoct, AND alcohol, all hell brakes loose, so to speak.
Things like that can end up with a dead OD'ed stiff, who's last words were incoherent gibberish. Not really nice huh? So please avoid it, or be warned.

[chrisdahl]

Your supposed to have Ambien to induce sleep,in my dogs experience theres no recreaction Zolpidem whatsoever

/\/\/\/\/\please dont informthe RSPCA

[tayo]

I once heard that someone drank 2 24oz tecate beers and had 8 ambien pills, I believe they were 20mg or 15mg. His friends insisted he go get food with them so he did but he just stared into the spindly world in front of him shutting and opening eyes with no appetite or much desire for anything but sleep. He left the restaurant with an empty stomach, escorted by friends and got home and slept. End. He lived, but this is a terrible idea.

[Big Fella]

SWIN has taken Ambien after a few drinks and noticed that the effect was more pronounced, however SWIN does not recormend this to SWIY's as tolerance to both drugs varies an SWIN would not like to hear about SWIY having adverse effects, like death, which SWIN has heard is quite serious.

[hoodabudda]

swim has a feling that swim is looking for a kava ambien(zolpidem) high. swim always imagined how the alcohol and ambien high would feel but it never really felt that great while on it. looking for a drug that affected GABA receptors like ambien and alcohol do, swim tied kava and ambien omg it was so great. look for kava tinctures at your local heath food stores. swim never felt like he was going to pass out like with alc. and ambien but he had vision that was in frames and took a few seconds to catch up to him when he moved his head. His whole body was buzzin in slow mo world while his head was still clear enough to process the effects, no amnesia.

[TokinIXI]

Swim has drank a couple of bears with 3 ambien's before. Swim knows that it's bad to do, but it got swim extremely drunk with only 2 beers.

[thenightwatch]

I have heard of two experiences of drinking while on Ambien. Apparently, even just a few beers on top of even a 10 mg dose of Zolpidem VASTLY increases the anterograde amnesia.

The worst of the experience of the two I have heard of, the subject was on 15 mg of Zolpidem and drank approx. 4 beers. The last thing subject remembers is sitting at a friend's apartment drinking a few beers. The only thing, when the subject woke up, he was in his dorm room with no recollection of how he got there. Apparently, the subject decided to drive. He found his car in a parking lot near his dorm, but the parking lot was not authorized for his particular parking permit, and he had two tickets on his windshield. Subject was lucky that the two tickets were the worst of the damage to him from this ridiculously foolish behavior that night, he or someone else could have ended up dead.

So, in summary: Don't mix these two. You won't even remember the night.

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Useful Story. Thanks for sharing

[eatpeople]

this is my first post, sorry if it's a little off topic for this thread and should have been it's own thread, but anyway, SWIM has drank on ambien and had fun with it a few times but this morning SWIM woke up and thought they just had to go to the bathroom really bad at first, but their lower stomach had started hurting in a strange way, the best way they could describe it is like having a migraine in their lower stomach, it wasn't anything like any hangover they'd ever had, it lasted for about 3 or 4 hours and now they say it seems to have gotten a lot milder and moved to their back. Last night they had taken 20 mg of zolpidem and had a couple drinks, not alot, just 3 or 4 shots and a rum and coke. is it possible this is related to ambien or no? I had always been under the impression that there weren't really any health problems to be worried about when drinking on ambien except increasing the effects of both drugs.

also, someone was talking about ambien and kava too, SWIM says they've tried that a couple times and it was pretty nice and usually lead to 12 hours of heavy sleep