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I have 60 mg of MS contin, they have a imprint of 60 on one side and E on the other side. It is an extended release and put on by Purdue Frederick. Here is a picture of the pill http://www.ethex.com/pages/prod_page...ID=58177033004
What I want to know is "can i sniff this pill? Do i have to scrape off the outside coating or is the time release actually in the pill itself. It doesn't seem to have an outer coating like oxycontin. Please let me know. Thanks.
Swim does not advice sniffing these. Your nose will hurt, bad. Swiy should just chew them and eat them. The bioavailability is similar, but insufflation of MScontin is a waste of time. Swim can attest to this personally.
Morphine sulphate is in a sulphate salt form obviously so it is absorbed quicker when snorted. As the morphine salt easily dissolves in the sinus cavity it is MORE bioavailavle through the mucus membrane.
Other things which are not present in a water soluble form (or not a salt form) cannot be snorted.
Rub off the outer waxy coating with a wet tissue and then dry the pill IMMEDIATELY.
They are time released so one would want to crush them before snorting. They contain a wax and some of this residue will either be snotted back out into a tissue the next day or will ultimately end up in SWIyour stomach.
This wax can be removed by heating the pill in a small amount of water gently (try not to bubble) and suck the liquid up into a syringe through a pill filter. This resulting liquid can then be "hot railed" or it can be squirted out onto something in a small puddle CAREFULLY to be dried out, SWIM would recommend a small glass dish for this in theory.
Care is advised with dosage. This method will come on a hell of a lot quicker and SWIyour body may not be ready to accept 60mg all at once. Know ones limits is the key.
pestel and morter.
crush the pill/pills.
empty onto a flat surface.
softly drag a credit card over the left over mound. (you should leave a trail of fine powder).
the fine stuff is what you want.
eat the rest (lumps/coating)
if you have zero tollerance, just chew them and down with a double vodka/redbull.
This may sound gross, but it is truly the most effective way to use the pills you mentioned.
1. Buy a oral syringe (no needle)
2. crush the pill with a credit card as fine as possible on a piece of paper
3. Try to take a crap or use a douche
4. Fill the syringe with water
5 Put the powder into the syringe.
6. Shake the syringe
7. Use a little bit of lube on your anus
8. Lie down
9. Insert the syringe into your anus
10. Push the plunger in and take the syringe out
11. Squeeze your cheeks together and keep lying down for another 15 minutes or so
12. Wait for the effects to hit you
this was of administering is by far the most effect, short of IM of IVing, there is a lot more mucous membrane in your anal cavity then in your sinuses so it hits harder and faster, but it won't last quite as long.
None of the above techniques apply to MScontin. Believe swim when he tells you to just chew and swallow. Taking MScontin intranasally is both painful and a waste.
Chewing and swallowing is great and gives a long lasting effect.
Taking off the outer coating with a wet tissue and drying the pill IMMEDIATELY (not 10 mins) with another dry tissue. Then crush the pill with a pill crusher and snort it. This is much more bioavailable than ingested orally.
One could also put a small amount of water with it in a spoon, heat it a little and suck up the liquid through a pill filter. This will take out any of the wax time mechanism left in the pill. Then it can be used IV or one can do the ole "liquid rail" up the nose.
SWIM has the generic pinkish orange MS-Contin with ABG on the front and 60 on the back. Insufflation doesn't really yield much in the way of a high. The time release comes from binding the morphine (probably in a matrix or something) with hypromellose. Because of this, making a true powder out of these pills is impossible. Ten years ago they could be crushed to a fine powder, but now you're lucky to get it down to micro-chunks. Adding any water or saliva (sublingual) turns the who thing into a gel. When snorted, they have a tendency to cut up the back of one's throat and SWIM notices the effects still don't come on for about an 90 min - to a few hours. After about 7 or 8 goes with these suckers, SWIM is sure there's no way to get 100% around the time release. Snorting is barely effective and I don't believe one's sinuses can get the morphine out of the waxy time release.