DESPERATE for VEIN and NEEDLE HELP!!!!

[Swing]

Swim is growing so frustrated and clueless about his situation that all he can do is cry when he looks at his qt ounce of H that he can't get into himself. Swim has been clean off the H for a month to let his veins grow back in place and thought he shouldn't have ANY trouble being able to hit them again. He rotates between 3 places on each arm and a couple on each hand. So far swim has wasted over 2 grams on painful wasted shots and he doesn't know why!! NO matter what he does he can't pull ANY blood into the plunger at all!! He feels the needle break the skin and then break the vein after but when he tries to pull, "NOTHING" but air. After poking around in frustration he'll remove the needle and the spot will GUSH out blood like he's hit the spot perfectly. SWIM doesn't know what to do but cry and look at the H he can't get high on. PLEASE give swim advice and/or techniques to help out his situation. Advice on hitting a new vein like the femoral or something, ANYTHING or anyplace at all would be greatly appreciated. PLEASE HELP!!!

[aerozeppelin123]

Sounds like your needle's broken to me

[bwilder1050]

needles clogged?

[Swing]

Swim just bought brand new needles so he doesn't see anyway they could be clogged. Do you think his whole batch could be defective??

[bwilder1050]

try a new needle

[Swing]

Swim has gone through 7 needles allready. His arms all up and down his veins are covered in marks ALL of them should have been perfect shots but none have hit =( Can someone please tell him how to hit his femoral vein or ANY vein on his body except his arms or ankles *going totally fucking insane*

[truth]

take a really hot shower and squeeze shit

[beentheredonethatagain]

if swiy leaves a little air bubble in the rig , when the vein is hit then the blood will enter the rig on its own. there for not having to pull back on plunger to register.

[Vagisil]

Originally Posted by beentheredonethatagain

if swiy leaves a little air bubble in the rig , when the vein is hit then the blood will enter the rig on its own. there for not having to pull back on plunger to register.

good advice, thanks man.
swim can only hit where the arm bends. swim can not see any veins anywhere on his arms. so if something happened to those 2 places. swim would be fucked. swim could try hitting his hand vein. but that's really trickier/harder.

[Solinari]

Don't try and hit the femoral vein, it will either end up missing and hitting the artery which can take quite a bit of time and pressure to stem the flow, or it might hit a major nerve damaging it and i imagine it will hurt a lot. The other thing is, some one might actually hit it, time after time and soon it will become thee only place to inject which WILL lead to problems. The femoral vein can be so easy to miss and so easy to hit, but both can cause serious problems, this is how junkies lose their legs and die from infections.

Are the veins fairly prominent and easy to see? Is it possible to block the eye of the needle and see if a vacuum forms or is it just air getting in?

I would be surprised if a full batch of needles and/or syringes are defective, but maybe testing them wouldn't be a bad idea. Truth is right about the hot shower or bath, that should make the veins more prominent and easier to see and hit.

All i can say is try again or get someone else to try it and don't try for the femoral it will probably end up badly. Besides, someone with experience would have to physically point out the place to go in or it will end in missing.

[beentheredonethatagain]

I would doubt they are defective , afterall they did draw up the liquid from the spoon or cooker. I think swiy is going thru the vien and out the other side. This may sound like preaching and I dont want to preach, if swiy is set on doing H then why not smoke it?

[Swing]

Swim used to have VERY prominent veins from working out. His freinds are so clueless about hitting themselves that he is ALWAYS the one helping and shooting people up everytime he does H with anybody therefore he feels that if he can't do it they definitely couldn't do it. The only H available on the westside where he is is tar. Swim has tried smoking tar before it was really acrid tasting and seemed impossible to get a massive opiate high from. Swim will lift some weights and take a hot shower and report back again.

[loaded cali boy]

Originally Posted by Swing

Swim used to have VERY prominent veins from working out. His freinds are so clueless about hitting themselves that he is ALWAYS the one helping and shooting people up everytime he does H with anybody therefore he feels that if he can't do it they definitely couldn't do it. The only H available on the westside where he is is tar. Swim has tried smoking tar before it was really acrid tasting and seemed impossible to get a massive opiate high from. Swim will lift some weights and take a hot shower and report back again.

This happened to one of my friends recently... we came to the conclusion that his veins were shot! they have shrunk so much that he cant get the needle in such a small spot but the veins are still good enough to pass blood through. He switched to smoking...and if u have good black, it doesnt taste that bad and it gets u just as high...it jus takes a lil more then when u shoot. So, my advice...quit shooting for a month or two and smoke, work out to get good blood flow to expand ur veins and then try again. GOOD LUCK!

[beentheredonethatagain]

take it easy shooting up is always going to be there, youth will not.

[pirate24]

Swim has this exact same problem, he sees the needle go in and the vein bleeds profusely when he removes the needle but only air comes enters into the syringe. Glad to see he isn't alone. He was starting to feel retarded beyond belief.

[teddybearpicnics]

swim has this problem in one vein in his left arm, used to be the main site for injection. the vein swim thinks collapsed, because if tried, only air comes up inside it. either that or there is just too much scar tissue and the blood only trickles through that particular spot in the vein. if swm moves up above that site, or below it, swim can hit there.

suggested site, bend your hand up to your shoulder, and there is a large vein that runs up your forearm, has swiy tried this spot? if that fails, go for the kneepit. also last resort puff your cheeks out and there are veins in your neck but swim highly discourages that, make sure swiy doesn't go for the jugular! very dodgy but it's better than an artery. if swiy is gonna use swiy is going to use, so information is only for informative purposes. oh yeah there's always the nikki sixx spot...good ol twig & berries