confused about XR

[coldkate]

curious to other's experiences with crushing adderall XR. SWIM would assume that crushing adderall XR would basically cause it to be non-XR. but even though insufflation causes the crushed XR to hit her faster, it doesn't wear off the way regular adderall would, it stays with her the same amount of time as it would if it wasn't crushed. and it is completely crushed btw. does this happen to anyone else? or can anyone explain this to SWIM?

[OhCasey]

I seem to experience the same thing i think that when its crushed it must still contain some adderall surrounded by the time release chemical. although you can crush the powder very fine who knows how small the amount of adderall and time release really are.

[fnord]

A morter and pestel is best for crushing these lil basterds,AFOAF has used a morter and pestal on the beads,then administerd via IV,afterwords the pile of powder left over was acidified and allowed to sit for a while to disolve teh time relese, then my friend tryed to inject more the next day and felt very little(placebo?) to nothing.

[OhCasey]

Swim uses a shot glass and back of a small screwdriver. But under closs inspection those beads break into littler balls or pieces of balls that make a fine powder. Theyre the worse time release Swim has ever had to crush worse then the balls in Teva and Impax OxyContin and also swim has crushed time release morphine, cant remeber the name, and those were very similiar to adderall XR but crushed a lil finer. Swim felt that even crushing the time release morphine and insufflating it he could still feel the effects hours later after he got the intial high right away.

[fnord]

The course sides of a morter and pestal allow for a more powdered material then has been seen with any other crushing method.

[excavator_12]

Originally Posted by fnord

The course sides of a morter and pestal allow for a more powdered material then has been seen with any other crushing method.

SWIM just recently learned of the method he uses to break up IR and XR (I have both). It works great; no spillage, no folding paper or some other bullshit. it's simple to do.

first, you need a hard glass surface, or a counter top....anything hard like that. SWIM uses a small plate because it has a rim and is easier to contain the material once it starts to break up.

the pellets are emptied out into the plate. take SWIY's bottle that the adderall came in (or any med bottle with a completely flat/smooth top.) use the smooth cap of the bottle as a mortar/pestle against the glass. stuff comes out extremely fine. goes up extremely smooth.

[OhCasey]

Originally Posted by excavator_12

SWIM just recently learned of the method he uses to break up IR and XR (I have both). It works great; no spillage, no folding paper or some other bullshit. it's simple to do.

first, you need a hard glass surface, or a counter top....anything hard like that. SWIM uses a small plate because it has a rim and is easier to contain the material once it starts to break up.

the pellets are emptied out into the plate. take SWIY's bottle that the adderall came in (or any med bottle with a completely flat/smooth top.) use the smooth cap of the bottle as a mortar/pestle against the glass. stuff comes out extremely fine. goes up extremely smooth.

Thats not really a mortar/pestle. Youd need something with walls or atleast a bowl. Plus i think fnord is referring to some sort of actual Mortar and Pestle made for the purpose of grinding substances down, not something fashioned into a make shift mortar.

[excavator_12]

I wasn't saying it WAS a mortar pestle, just mentioned as something to compare against...operates in a similar fashion....noteveryone has a mortar pestle...everyones got the bottle their adderall has come in and a plate or some piece of glass in their house.

[OhCasey]

Thought you were saying the Bottle and plate were your mortar & Pestle, i misunderstood.

[staples]

Um, CVS--as well as other pharmacies, I'm sure--sells pill crusher and storage devices. It would be much more convenient than these methods...

[fnord]

Originally Posted by staples

Um, CVS--as well as other pharmacies, I'm sure--sells pill crusher and storage devices. It would be much more convenient than these methods...

Yes tehy do but these dont work that well when dealing with fine beads/XR.

[staples]

Originally Posted by fnord

Yes tehy do but these dont work that well when dealing with fine beads/XR.

SWIM reports otherwise. He says that all it takes is a few twists back and forth (the crusher works by screwing a head into a pit of whatever is being crushed) to produce a fine powder from Adderall XR. He also mentions the advantage he noticed where the resulting powder doesn't stick to the plastic of the device as it seems to do with material used in the other methods, such as a shot glass. Also, by the way the thing is designed, no beads can escape.

[fnord]

Originally Posted by staples

SWIM reports otherwise. He says that all it takes is a few twists back and forth (the crusher works by screwing a head into a pit of whatever is being crushed) to produce a fine powder from Adderall XR. He also mentions the advantage he noticed where the resulting powder doesn't stick to the plastic of the device as it seems to do with material used in the other methods, such as a shot glass. Also, by the way the thing is designed, no beads can escape.

Maybe grandmas crusher was defective,or shes has weak wrists from the arthritis!

[GenaroXVIII]

Originally Posted by fnord

...afterwords the pile of powder left over was acidified and allowed to sit for a while to disolve teh time relese, then my friend tryed to inject more the next day and felt very little(placebo?) to nothing.

I may be incorrect, but I do not believe that dissolving XR adderall in an acidic solution will help it dissolve. I think that the beads that are not supposed to dissolve immediately are designed to dissolve in one's small intestine which is more basic than the stomach. I will try to find out though.

[jazzmetalguitar]

If SWIM recalls correctly, part of the extended release is due to the fact that the amphetamine is in three different salt forms: sulfate, saccharate, and aspartate. This results in different half-lifes so that the action is more therapeutic. Therefore, crushing doesn't do much but allow one to clog the hell out of their nose. One won't get the same "smack" they'd get out of dextroamphetamine sulfate from the street or Dexedrine

[OhCasey]

Originally Posted by staples

SWIM reports otherwise. He says that all it takes is a few twists back and forth (the crusher works by screwing a head into a pit of whatever is being crushed) to produce a fine powder from Adderall XR. He also mentions the advantage he noticed where the resulting powder doesn't stick to the plastic of the device as it seems to do with material used in the other methods, such as a shot glass. Also, by the way the thing is designed, no beads can escape.

you must have one top notch pill crusher cause Swims pill crusher (6 bucks from rite aid) doesnt work at all with beads. Its a twisting motion with the head screwing into a plastic cup like thing but its spiked inside. Also the powder sticks to the plastic bad on his so it must be his brand of pill crusher. Its the one with a pill cutter and cup included.