Customs Question

[gregus01]

since nobody answered my other question i decided to change the topic name. I just want to know if anyone has run into trouble importing stuff. swim is in the process of ordering and wanted to know if anyone has had trouble/legal trouble.

[HippieD9]

It seems rather hit or miss really. It depends on how much is being shipped, how it's being shipped, where it's coming from, etc.. What kind of thing is swiy looking to get through?





Peace,


D.

[gregus01]

under a gram of research material, sent ems from japan. what do you think?

[bman1]

Thats not much at all swim should be ok It is still hit or miss but envolpes come in by the 10s of thousands so the all can not be looked at as long as what it is packed in does not cause suspicion or attract a dog it should be oksmall amounts can make it. If opened and taken swim might just get a letter from customs stating they took swims product

[gregus01]

thanks alot for the help. just a standing question. anyone ever have anything taken by customs.

[bman1]

My other friend swim had some cacti taken. all they got was a letter stating it could not be imported in the country. It seems for this they were more concerned with the live plant the what it was

[gregus01]

thanks a lot bman. every little bit of info here helps. swim will sleep better tonight. lmao. anyone else with examples or stories feel free to share.

[msumegi]

I have only ever received RC's in an envelope and they have never been stopped by customs. But I'm still nervous untill the tracker says that theenvelope has pass customs

[Dj_chill]

Well I may be too stoned to comment, but I reckon it all comes down to society's way of thinking.."If your face fits"!!
Works for people that have an innocent face

[psy-marshal]

I think what people are saying about it being confiscated and getting a letter from customs may be taking the situation a little bit lightly. Sure, this applies to the overseas pharmacies - that is what happens when they sieze, say, valium, but what you are asking about are most likely to be schedule 1 substances, and this is a whole nother league. Valium is a schedule 3 substance, (or is it schedule 2?) which means it is available in the US under perscription, although it can´t be imported, so they confiscate and send a letter, but schedule one´s are much more serious. If you were getting MDMA sent in the post, I think you could expect more than a threatening letter. I would err on the side of caution and say don´t do it, but really this would only happen if they found it and identified it, which they are not likely to be able to easily do with something like 2CT7.

[lolomgwtfbbq]

If somebody sends you mail with drugs in it, do only they get in trouble or do you get in trouble too if it's confiscated?</font>

[noeticbuzz]

Try getting an alternate mailing address or a PO box too.

[diggitydawg]

i don't think anyone would order anything that is already illegal but maybe i'm wrong on that one......."most likely to be schedule 1 substances" --&gt; but what if they aren't yet........say if ordering 4-ho-dipt by mail.???Can you get in trouble or have your packages seized for substances that aren't yet illegal but likely will be in the future and are being looked at currently?? Sorry if this question doesn't make much sense.......just looking for some further expanation.....and clarification

[mariecurie]

With non-sceduled substances, the only way you can get in trouble is
under the analog act (makes it illegal to consume drugs which are
'close' to other drugs - fairly vague and fairly flexible).



I doubt it's very possible that they will find your substance,
chemically identify it, and then find a way to show that you were
planning to take it. The sketch factor definitely goes up if you order
larger quantities, or if the place you're buying it from calls it a
drug or says it's meant for consumption.



If anyone disagrees about the risk, please reply. I wonder about this myself.

[lobster]

I think your own countries legal system plays a major part here.



In the UK, where entrapment is illegal, they can't deliver it and bust
you for it. They can't knowingly allow you to break the law.



In the US I believe it is different, and they could knowingly deliver it to you and then bust you.

[yajw]

Originally Posted by lobster

n the US I believe it is different, and they could knowingly deliver it to you and then bust you.

I think you might be referring to a "controlled delivery", which they
can do once the item has been identified. The DEA Microgram has a few
references to this, but they involved a decent quantity of illicit
substance.



There has been a report of someone oredeing ketamine powder, and
getting a customs letter along with a notice the item was analyzed
subsequently seized. 2nd hand info, but you got to wonder for all the
packaged chemicals without data sheets.

[fastandbulbous]

If you order a controlled substance in the UK from overseas, then it gets discovered, you WILL end up in court. After ACS was raided as part of operation web-tryp, the DEA gave names and addresses of anyone in the UK who had ordered RC's from them to the Home Office's Drugs Intelligence Unit, and sometime around the start of December last year, everyone on the list of names got a visit from a regional crime squad unit - some of those people had only ordered 100-200mg of a chemical.

find a false ID and open a C/O boxe.

[lobster]

Originally Posted by fastandbulbous

If you order a controlled substance in the UK
from overseas, then it gets discovered, you WILL end up in court. After
ACS was raided as part of operation web-tryp, the DEA gave names and
addresses of anyone in the UK who had ordered RC's from them to the
Home Office's Drugs Intelligence Unit, and sometime around the start of
December last year, everyone on the list of names got a visit from a
regional crime squad unit - some of those people had only ordered
100-200mg of a chemical.

Could you post more information about this? I ain't saying its
not true but I thought thouse busts were just related to 2C-I, and the
most of the people arrested got caught with a great deal of dealing
equipment.

[fastandbulbous]

Did they? I've communicated with a couple of them on a different drugs discussion board, and they were caught with piddling amounts (under 500mg). Some were caught with scales, but for dose measurement, not for dealing. It appears that ACS didn't keep records of who'd been shipped what, just their postal addresses, and that's what the NDIU acted on.





In theory, some of those people might have just bought IAP and methylone (both not CD's) but they'll still have gotten a visit.

[zipoo]

i heard the story of the peopel in brition being raided for having ordered anything from acs, after teh rc raid here. interesting that the dea send the infor to teh british government which acted on it; fiirst time i've heard that one government send a list of buyers to another governmnet. I wonderwhich government intiated this. i assume teh us is once agin playing big brother to the world. however, it's interesting that in teh us no one was busted or raided or even questioned from buying from those venders. they have beeter things to do, i hope.

[greenman420]

That's because Phenethylamines and Tryptamines are scheduled in the UK, just like heorin, weed, coke, etc are here in the states. The Dea look like hero's giving them a list of cosutmers and info to their govnerment so they can go after the easy targets and plus it puts a scare on the RC community which makes them look like they're doing their job. In the US the consumers aren't as easy of targets that's why they haven't gone after anybody. They can't until they can either prove they were true analogs and if they can prove that, then they have to prove they were consuming them which won't be easy on their part unless you have trip reports online, or some kind of document or proof they can use as evidence against you.





Untill these substances are officially scheduled in the states, they can't go after you, only harrass you. Even if they did go after consumers the charge would be so small that it wouldn't be worth it to them.

[GDxCAT]

Well ive ordered rc's in the past month from overseas and recieved them promptly. It was only 200mg though.

Im a bit apprehensive about ordering RC's that have already been scheduled, but it is soo tempting.


Edited by: GDxCAT

[greenman420]

Two things about ordering scheduled RC's from overseas. One you take the risk of customs catching it. If they catch it your fucked. It's the same charge as getting weed, heorin, coke, etc getting shipped to you. I'm sure there's alot of charges they can charge you with on that so basically it ain't worth it.


Two, you get your order and nothing happens. But two years down the road the companies get busted from pressure of our govenment on theirs and their government gives our government the records and they go after all the customers who ordered the scheduled RC's. Basically the same thing that happened in the UK all over again.





I say don't chance it. The only reason why RC's even appeal to me is because they'rre legal to some degree. If I wanted to have something illegal, I'd go to my local drug dealer.

[greenman420]

Also I think what would happen if customs does come across scheduled RC's is they'll notify the DEA which will seize the order. I'm sure the DEA would set it up so when you sign for the package and accept the order your fuct. The DEA are scum like that.