Side effects - E and Suicide, Help anyone?

[Purusha]

Question!


A few weeks ago SWIM tried rolling for the first time. Which was amazing! However, SWIM heard that Ecstasy can zap your serotonin and the next day you’re gonna feel crappy. SWIM has been going through a really rough time in her life and for three days after she did E she was almost suicidal and considered committing herself. Although, after the third day she felt back to normal, now…can that happen? Can the side affects last for that long?

SWIM doesn’t know if that was just her having a few bad days or was it because of the E? And should she wait till her life calms down a little to do Ecstasy again? The experience was great and she wants to do it again, but she doesn’t want to feel that crappy for so long afterwards.

Thanks!

[Stiney]

Yes the side effects can last for that long and sometimes longer.

Nobody can tell you what to do with your time but I would say yes. You should absalutely wait untill your life calms down a bit before trying it again. Everyone feels a bit depressed for a few days after taking e but it hits some people far worse than others. There is probably alot of info on here about how to lessen the negative after effects of taking ecstacy and how to deal with the crash, try entering variations of the term "ecstacy hangover" into the search engine, should bring some stuff up. But if you suffer from depression or emotional problems you should not be taking ecstacy at all, as it is almost certain to exascerbate them. Thats not to say you can never take it again for as long as you live but you should be in a good and stable place emotionally before you consider using it again. There is a reason the phrase "suicide tuesdays" exists.

[julian]

swim would advise against taking it anytime soon. it sounds like you need answers that cannot be found by ingesting ecstasy or any other drug not under the supervision of a professional.

[Nature Boy]

SWIM feels a bit emotionally drained the day after a heavy session. He kind of enjoys it in some peculiar way, as if the depleted serotonin levels leave one in a sombre, reflective state.

It passes though. Make sure to rest up and eat well.

[Treesniper119]

In the stressful depressed state your in it sounds as if your seretonin levels are already low, there is alot of research out now about 5-HTP (which is a seretonin booster) that you can pick up over the counter at GNC or other pharmacys. It will help increase your natural everyday mood, apatite, sleep, (all seretonin based functions in the brain) this would be a good alternative to just doing ecstasy to flood the low amount of seretonin you have and get a nighy of feel good, followed by days of crashing...never take seretonin just before ecstasy (aka. pre-loading) or during ecstasy as it will nullify the effests, take 5-HTP after ecstasy (aka. post loading) as instructed on bottle on a regular basis. I hope this helps you out.
Other things to increase your mood would be working out and a good diet. Naturally feeling better about your self and lowering stress (feeling a short euphoric high from this afterward is also nomal.)

[Treesniper119]

Sorry, I said "never take seretonin just before..." I meant "never take 5-HTP just before..." Though I'm sure you all know what I meant =)

[ljfe]

It could definitely increase depression. For instance "Suicide Tuesday" is usually the last day of negative effects, after rolling on Friday or Saturday.
I think serotonin gains a majority back before, say five days. If it was such a great experience though, try and stick with the afterglow...or find a supplement that will help you get through it. Personally, Kava Kava helps SWIM a lot.

[Karlitozz]

SWIY should really try smoking some weed. My little monkey always does that. After about 10-15 min after he first feel the effects of the comedown he hits that joint, and it really is doing wonders for him. After just two joints and just a little bit of sleep, he is a new monkey again he says

[Sanoski]

If you're depressed, I wouldn't smoke any trees. And most certainly don't do XTC. It does deplete serotonin, but it will replenish after a few weeks. It isn't good to take E a lot. You will get depressed. Pot is a depressant, so I wouldn't smoke any trees either until I felt better.

[RaverHippie]

SWIM can report as a post-attempted-suicidal case ecstasy user (wow one hell of a title) and he admits that 5HTP used immediately after the roll is over then upon waking up next two days after waking up. Just keep it in SWIY's mind that it is purely chemically the reason why SWIY feels bad, it's not SWIY's true emotions. SWIY could even take the frame of mind that SWIY is still "intoxicated" due to the effects of rolling and that SWIY hasn't even hit baseline yet.

[Sanoski]

How long does it take to get back to normal? You're very insightful! Man, I'm so glad I found this forum. I feel so much better now knowing all this. This will really help SOWINM too. LOL! Wow, I'm going crazy with these acronyms.

[Purusha]

During the rolling session SWIM was smoking pot and when she was rolling it was great. Even though SWIM got a little crazy for a few days she still smoked and was okay mentally when she was stone. She really doesn't get 'down' when she smokes, either just silly or really pensive. However, for those three days of feeling suicidal swim would smoke to not feel that way. Thank heavens that passed because she didn't want to use weed for copeing.
However, thanks so much guys, this thread helped SWIM out greatly. She thinks she's going to wait a while and let things settle before she does E again. Thanks again!