Natural out-of-body experiences

[420kid]

Is there anyway to have an OBE (Outer Body Experience) without doing any drugs?

[Lehendakari]

Many people claim to. This involves meditation and vivid dreaming and astral plane stuff. I sometimes get sleep paralisys after a nap a can see myself lying down and me trying to move and wake up. After I wake up, the picture in my mind is blurry just like when you try to remember your dreams. Wouldn't say that's an OBE, but Sleep paralisys is a freaking thing for sure.

[podge]

Originally Posted by Lehendakari

Many people claim to. This involves meditation and vivid dreaming and astral plane stuff. I sometimes get sleep paralisys after a nap a can see myself lying down and me trying to move and wake up. After I wake up, the picture in my mind is blurry just like when you try to remember your dreams. Wouldn't say that's an OBE, but Sleep paralisys is a freaking thing for sure.

Iv heard paralysis is actually a characteristic sign of an OBE. Swims had sleep paralysis and lucid dreams but isnt sure if he's achieved a natural OBE. Swims also heard meditation is the one of the best ways to enduce an OBE.

[illume.]

yes, the paralisis is actually present at the onset of an obe. this happens when your conciousness is at the right vibration to shift into the astral plane. i have been to this stage myself it is usually acompanied by whistling and or wind kind of sound. however it takes practice to actually be able to get OUT so to speak. although some ppl have reported that they just wake up alredy out of body, the shock is said to bring you straight back to yourself. meditation is definetly somthing to take up for someone who is interested in astral travel, particularly energy work as this is needed to conciously start the vibrational change needed to shift into astral mode

[pillpopper96743]

Try deep meditation. Staring into space and clearing your mind so you are thinking of absoloutley nothing for a long time also works for an OBE. Swim has also reached kundalini a few years back (however strange that may seem). He feels "enlightened now" and views things in a different way. It takes years of practice to reach though. Meditation, according to swims friend in tibet, should only be done a few times a week at the most.

[AngelicFruitcake]

Originally Posted by pillpopper96743

Meditation, according to swims friend in tibet, should only be done a few times a week at the most.

Really? SWIM has been told meditation should be done every day to achieve lasting benefits.

[Grabnar]

certain varieties of tantric meditation that require days of awake time and focus can drain your body more than drugs, obe is possible but swim has a girlfriend now =X

[adzket]

i have tryed to meditate but with no sucsess i think due to being sceptical also have tryed deep breathing exsersises to relax but to no effect as i am very wound up most of the time however i do have an intreast in astral projection and qwantium psycology and bought books on these but found them very hard going and dule due to being like reading a text book but for enjoyment wich is not my idea of fun but this is ment to be a good way to exsperiance obe's if you have the mind set and patiance if any one has ideas as to books or web sites i may find help full also please let me know but there has to be some enjoyent somewhere in it or i lose intreast hence why it has taken me about 6 yrs and till got know where

[sylenth]

well this morning i astral travelled consciously. it has happened alot quicker than i thought. to tell the truth, for me it seems that if smurf is taking less drugs, having a healthy body & a clear happy state of mind that you have a better chance of more frequent travels. i wanna share what has worked for me.

for about 5 days only now, i have been making a conscious effort to want to astral travel & done a little research & heard a few things to get me in the right direction. i have been thinking of getting a book. but believe i have done well with out needing a book yet.

what has worked for me is:

every night when laying in bed wanting to sleep. relaxing the muscles & eyes while closed, concentrating on my breathing & clearing my head with the only repetitive thoughts of i want to be out of my body, i want to have a obe, i wanna be in my room out of myself, i wanna fly etc... also by sizing up the size of the room in your head & having a 5th sense of your room's size & surroundings. doing this all the time till i fall asleep. i have noticed the colourful green in colour fluidy patterns in the darkness 'while my eyes are closed' become quite busy.

by doing this you are creating a thought that will be in your subconscious as you fall asleep. the obe will not most likely happen when you fall asleep to easily as your head is not clear from the days events.

when i found out & discovered it will happen easier is when you have woken up in the early morning after some good hours sleep & you have been dreaming. 'as lazy as you feel & wanna sleep' lets say about 4am -5am when you wake up. you must'nt be lazy have some coffee or tea. 'the caffeine wont keep you awake'

then lay down & want to sleep & dream & astral travel. tell your self the things mentioned above to astral travel.

this morning i had my obe. it happened from my dream where i believe after 'programming' my subconscious it obviously said i want to fly. 'those dreams are the best' and when i started flying. i immediately went into the sky in my dream & out of my body for real cos i found myself floating in my room conscious as to where i was.

i only floated around for a little while & went out above my roof a little. then came back & woke up. i hope the next travel will be further. i think it was from the excitement that it ended quickly.

it was really cool. it was like in heroes. the actor that flies. i did'nt even fly around it was straight from the ground & up out of my body. i will keep posts of further progress & travels here.

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Keep up the the good reports man !!!

[podge]

Congrats slynth, keep us updated !!!

[sylenth]

so natural straight ways has it's benefits. even though smurf chooses to rather be fucked. but cash is low & you learn to deal with it... smurf has purchased a book to studty further along with a crystal...
so anyway smurf astral travelled again yesterday morning at around 3am. this time 3 times to 3 different places, although it could of been 3 times in the room in & out. as it was'nt as clear & long as last time. smurf also noticed a certain something like a presence next to the bed by smurf that smurf kept waking up to a few times in a half conscious state.

smurf has been focussing on the crystal purchased recently to draw energy from smurf & to smurf & it is next to smurf on the table. perhaps it is a spirit guide? or smurf next to himself out of himself? smurf also has clear recollection of testing to see if smurf was astral travelling or not at one stage.

when ever smurf gets the third eye open of smurfs surroundings through meditation, smurf usually tests by trying to see if he is awake & seeing /sensing cos smurf senses to see a presence of the room shining through his closed eye lids by waving his hand in front of his eyes while shut tests the theory.

smurf does'nt see the hand movements which seems as if the thired eye is open. but not physically out of the body as smurf is awake moving his hand. so yesterday morning smurf found himself moving his hands in front of his eyes with out moving them physically being awake. so progress is looking good. the light smurf sees is a white light & the book says it is a high level of travel by seeing this white light. which is quite flattering.

sylenth added 798 Minutes and 14 Seconds later...

once again this seems to have a link to the energy the smurfs saw listed on my thread i first posted on the forum. 'confirmed been visited from another plain.' this time smurf has been clean & healthy for months, besides for the lsd here & there & opening the third eye. it is the same white energy the smurfs both woke up & saw that night.

[podge]

Good stuff slynth, glad to hear to progress is going well.

Swim has been off ALL drugs recently, he is now having dreams and actually remembering some of them in detail for the first time in years. He had a full on lucid dream a couple of nights ago which was very promising. But he hasnt managed to Astral project as of yet as he has been slacking off practice to read instead and ends up being to wrecked afterwards to attempt.

But best of all he had an undeniable consciousness shift while meditating recently which also contained the white light. It was very short as he got startled when it happened as it came out of nowhere but it was undeniable progress.

[sylenth]

thanx podge. that's good, you do start having & remembering ur dreams more when not using so much substances...

laziness is what gets smurf sometimes too. you just dont feel up to the concentration/meditation. as long as it is in ur mind that you want to & going to, it happens eventually. it is getting easier too as smurfs heart does'nt start racing like it used to when the body is falling asleep & the mind still consciouss. it seems once you consciouslly do a astral travel alot of the fears go away.

well done on the lucid dreaming, thats cool. smurf is'nt as good with that yet. it seems smurfs lucid dream the first time is what made the initial important step to astral travel & now it's been done, it can be done without it. most important factor is repetition.

[sylenth]

last night during meditation smurf got the fluid images in the darkness 'whilst the eye lids were closed' flowing nicely & experienced a tunnel of bright white light, like the white light experienced on the heavy dose of lsd. unfortunetly with the excitement it went away...

[lostmente]

swim doesnt like it when the stars are flying past....and the fingers that keep grabbing at him are quite mouldy

swim needs a holiday

[RoboCodeine7610]

Swim once acutually "dreamed" he was going out of his body, like he was standing little by littele, but even though he tried SO hard he would stand sooooooooo slowly and the more he tried to get out the more he would wake up until he eventually did...weird

[spiritualhigh]

I have done it...3 or 4 times...although it take time to understand and control it...I don't take drugs anymore...except alcohol (which stops me doing it). I would suggest reading soe Robert Monroe...books... when over tired and have persued the interest ever since....persuing it so much meant that it became part of my subconscious...and surprizingly meant I was capale of doing it. Live it...and it will happen.

spiritualhigh added 2 Minutes and 11 Seconds later...

Hope I was allowed to say 'I' in the last post...I was only talking about natural OBE'S anyway...nothing induced by drugs. Sorry new to here anyway!

[cra$h]

I've been working on this on and off for the last year or so. But I've method is he lays there without any pressure on my body and just breath in, and out. slowly. as I inhale, i'll think re then when i exhale i think lax. so a full breath i'm repeating relax. First my arms relax, then my shoulders, legs, body, face, brain. But when completely relaxed, it'll feel like you can just lift your arm out of the real one, but you know you're not really moving. then the more you relax the more you can "pull'' yourself out. The hardest part is the head though.

[spiritualhigh]

I have never gone though this process but have been awoken from a lucid dream...or from the falling asleep dreaming. I have often found myself somewhere else in the house 5 minutes (or so) after falling asleep.

[xeysz]

As others have said, it can happen through dreaming. You can wiki that. . .

As for me, I actually did experience it (long before I even know what an out-of-body experience was).

I think I was sick that night, but the dream was pretty amazing. It was really weird because my view was spinning around in circles. For instance in a normal dream I am seeing through my own eyes. But this time it was extremely different. I guess the easiest way to put it was like in the Sims game, where you see everyone there doing their stuff, but you are spinning the view around. It was like I could jump all around but only by spinning, it was very uncontrollable. I think I do remember someother people in the dream doing the jumping/spinning thing too.

I can't remember how long ago I had this dream. Actually I think I was dreaming like that the entire night, not just a single dream but all the dreams I had that night. I have had lucid dreams several times and I'm not sure if I was lucid in these.

Well the time may come when you get a lucid dream, just look it up on wikipedia they have a lot of good advice on how to induce them (legally, of course). Some ways I think that would work are keeping a dream journal, getting full nights of sleep, that dream-recall thing, etc.

Sometimes you might close your eyes and open them thirty minutes or so later, wondering if you ever slept or not ("What just happened the last thirty minutes? I must have been sleeping, I will go back to sleep then.") Then you go back to sleep and when you wake again you may wonder if that time you woke up was real and whatnot.

[infekt]

You should check out a book called "Astral Dynamics" by Robert Bruce. This book has instructions on how to achieve out of body experiences and access different planes of consciousness. You just need to get past his cheesy terminology, and lots of practice and time. I haven't personally been able to break through, but I haven't practiced enough with it myself. But apparently Robert Bruce is an expert in the field.

[nikky36]

i lucid dream and occassionally have sleep paralysis but no out of body experience as of yet,i am hoping this will happen,something i have always wanted to experience..................

[humdroid]

Originally Posted by 420kid

Is there anyway to have an OBE (Outer Body Experience) without doing any drugs?

Dunno if you can call this an OBE.
During a straight period, Y woke up in bed, and felt himself slowly sliding halfway up the wall. He didnt see himself in bed or anything, he didnt look, he didnt think "wow, OBE". He just got back into the bedspace without his body, like it was normal, akin to brushing ones fringe out of ones eyes, or scratching a chin itch. It was only after waking, that Y considered the OBE thing.
Y said it felt like he had had it before, but he could not remember any more specific times.

[Euthanatos93420]

Swim had one wholly and entirely free of drugs (including the pharmies he had recently quit taking...fuckin lithium).

He was in his new apartment. He had jack shit for furnature:

1. Futon
2. Dresser
3. 100 watt Stereo CD player
4. MEtallica (Black), Dimmu Borgir (For all Tid), and Enya (only time)

How about that...so, Key points:

- He was waiting to go to work here in about 3 or 4 hours but was laying down listening to Dimmu Borgir.

- Thinking about some article or TV show he had read recently that talked about a chemical your brain releases right before you fall asleep that paralyzes you so you don't physically react to the experiences of your dreams.

- THought: Can't fall asleep! Gotta be at work soon!

- Swim laid there forever, or what seemed like it. Then he thought, "I better move my fingers so i know i'm not about to falls alseep."

- Eventual Realization: OMG! I can't move my fingers. Eventually after a little bit of effeort i could flex a finger or two and relaxed again.

- Repeat last step 3-5 times

- Eventually Swim sat up....but his body didn't

- The experience didn't last because swim percieved an evil entity trying to take over his body which he prompty picked up...gave the boot, and reclaimed his body sitting up for real fast as hell...

[sherpa]

Swim has lucid dreams sometimes,or is he even experiencing "lucid dreams" or is it worse?

Swim can tell you that they are horrifying at times,As if you are awake and out of control.Only thing he can say is that you are half awake and half asleep,can't figure it out.
Last one swim had was he was in his bedroom falling out of his bed,he literally fell out of bed and couldn't get up,then when he could he started to smash his bed side chest of drawers,he was so alert and could see everything as clear like he was awake,he was frightened because he at that stage thought it was real.Swim was like a train wreck thinking he was going insane.

Swim can describe this as an out of body experience,but is glad that it's just a dream,but hates it,as it's not nice at all.