Opinions - Are t-breaks worth the effort?

[skatealex2]

The longest t-break i've done was a week but i didnt break it on such good weed but it defently helped somewhat. For anyone whos done them, do you get those intense feelings of old school highs? im also wondering if its possible to keep your tolerance by smoking every other day or something like that? I really miss my highs where i felt intense things going on in my brain and the euphoria that was with it. I still get great highs but no where near the level of what i just mentioned

[saorsa.elegy]

Of course you mean to say someone who isn't you?
SWIY would benefit from taking longer breaks if you desire to get a better or more intest effect.
SWIM went a really long time, about 5 years, now when swim does partake it only takes about 1 or two hits and they are having a great time.
Not to mention they are alot more motivated to do more productive things!

[Ididnotinhale]

Tolerance sucks, at least it's not something expensive like opiates. Smoking everyday will not do anything. To really make a difference swiy should stop for atleast a month. For daily smokers it will take between 2 weeks to 2 months to get all of the marijuana out of your system. Swims suggestion would be to stop for two months and two weeks, it seems like a long time, but it's worth it. Also, it seems that you are definetly addicted to marijuana and this will give you time to overcome your addiction. Once you are completely clean you may rethink your daily use of marijuana. When Swim took a month long break swim decided that he really didn't need to smoke everyday and overall smoking that much was having negative effects on his life.

[skatealex2]

Of course in my post on top I was talking about my pet cat. I think tolerance might have more to do with your brain receptors than how much thc is in your system but I guess thc build up has something to do with tolerance also. I think starting tommorow my Water Bottle will take a long break and if It can't last a month maybe just smoke once on sunday or until my tolerance is down. Also I can see how going sober for a month or two could be healthy for Swim psychology wise so Swim can think things through. Swim defently feels like Swim was happier when Swim was smoking less and only got high every few days or whatever, Swim also was less burnt out and a little more social maybe (although with certain people weed is great socially). One problem Swim has that is the main reasonSwim can't be sober for so long other than some boredom is sleeping. swim been taking melatonin for a month or two but finds that he wakes up after 4-6 hours when he takes it and it really messes with his sleep. Can anyone recommend any better sleeping pills that are safe to use daily or semi-daily? thanks

[grg3135]

keep in mind that month(s) of abstaining only result in a few days of reduced tolerance. SWIM quit for 2 months and just started smoking again 2 weekends ago. That first weekend was great, he was stoned for about 3 days from one eighth of kind bud. After continuous smoking, however, he was back to his old tolerance in about a week or so. This is just swims experience, though, swiy's mileage may vary

[Shampoo]

Originally Posted by grg3135

keep in mind that month(s) of abstaining only result in a few days of reduced tolerance.

This is only true a.) because swiy indulges in 'continuos smoking' of over a gram per day, and b.) because swiy chooses to lengthen their break to far beyond the necessary limit for tolerance reduction.

After less than 1 week in most cases of heavy use, down-regulation has ceased to exert inhibition on the CB receptors, and beyond this, the content of metabolites in one's lipids may decrease slowly, but the tolerance factor will not experience continued reduction. For more information on cannabinoid tolerance, see the tolerance section of the Cannabis Wiki here, http://www.drugs-wiki.com/forum/show...rs_of_Cannabis . There are psychological and physiological causes for tolerance, both of which can be reduced through reduced habitual use.

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[skatealex2]

i just read that link about tolerance and can't say i completely understand it. Shampoo are you saying that after a week of a tolerance break swims tolerance gets reduced very little after a week? swim wants those old school highs where swim gets major euphoria and long lasting highs. I think swim needs longer than a week to get there. I'd imagine two weeks is perfect. anyway at the end day 1 now swim is feeling ok and will probably use 50 mg of diphenhydramine tonight to sleep

[Shampoo]

Originally Posted by skatealex2

i just read that link about tolerance and can't say i completely understand it. Shampoo are you saying that after a week of a tolerance break swims tolerance gets reduced very little after a week? swim wants those old school highs where swim gets major euphoria and long lasting highs. I think swim needs longer than a week to get there. I'd imagine two weeks is perfect. anyway at the end day 1 now swim is feeling ok and will probably use 50 mg of diphenhydramine tonight to sleep

According to the pharmacokinetics of cannabinoid tolerance, swiy does not need two weeks to reduce their tolerance to a negligible or non-existent impact, but seeing as much of the perceived tolerance is founded on habituation and comfort zones, which have been shown to reduce cannabinoid uptake and impact, it could be potentially helpful to break specific habits involved in smoking. Regarding the shortened high associated with a significant tolerance, one of the earliest effects to which habitual smokers build tolerance is the length of intoxication, which seems to be much of the problem for swiy. Not only through medicinal and academic literature, but also through anecdotal evidence, swim has learned that the length of intoxication decreases by about 25-40% following down-regulation based tolerance. Within several days of cessation, swiyour periods of cannabinoid activation should be drastically increased, reaching their original length within the earlier stated week (slightly more in some cases).

[grg3135]

Originally Posted by Shampoo

This is only true a.) because swiy indulges in 'continuos smoking' of over a gram per day, and b.) because swiy chooses to lengthen their break to far beyond the necessary limit for tolerance reduction.

haha, SWIM quit because he was trying to get a job but after 2 months of no replies/job offers, he has chosen to throw in the towel and live off of his unemployment until around may when most companies start hiring again. So, in short, he did not abstain for 2 months merely to lose his tolerance. As far as your first point, though, most people who would benefit from tolerance breaks are heavy users who indulge in "continuous smoking"

[pepsigood]

Originally Posted by Shampoo

After less than 1 week in most cases of heavy use, down-regulation has ceased to exert inhibition on the CB receptors, and beyond this, the content of metabolites in one's lipids may decrease slowly, but the tolerance factor will not experience continued reduction.

Does this mean swim can never get that same high you get when you smoke the first few times ever again? That sucks

[Shampoo]

Originally Posted by pepsigood

Does this mean swim can never get that same high you get when you smoke the first few times ever again? That sucks

That is not what swim meant by detailing the lack of continued reduction, swim was trying to explain that it is completely reduced, not that it ended at some arbitrary point and refuses to go lower.

For more information, this has been covered many times before. Here are a few threads. Next time, the search engine is your friend.

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46318
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36830
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22066