Making poppy pod tea better

[mfrieze]

I am not sure if this has been posted before or if this even works or not, but i was browing around some sites and found this post XXXX

It says that when making poppy pod tea you only are getting codiene. If you add a calcium carbonate tablet to the tea while lightly boiling it, you will actually get the morphine. You can find calcium carbonate pretty easy so I hope this helps a few people on here.

update:

also I found this recipe.
tell me what you think of it:

This method has rocked even the most seasoned of users. Everyone has their own favorite recipe, this is mine:

Put:

1/2 cup dried pod grounds (+/- depending on tolerance, but I will write this up for the 1/2 cup user)
3 healthy squirts of lemon juice
1 capful white vinegar
2 shots 100+ proof liquor
500mg Calcium Carbonate

into a jar (I like spaghetti sauce jars...perfect size). Then add just enough cranberry (i like cranapple) juice to make it a nice slur (runny mush).

Shake this vigorously every few minutes for a duration of 20-25 mins. Then add 2 1/2 cups "nearly boiling" water. Careful, the glass will get hot and be sure to release pressure every so often. Shake this liquid slur every few minutes for 20 -25 mins. Strain through a t-shirt and chug. Chase it with grapefruit juice. in 20-30 mins... you receive a glowing gift from the SomniGod!

btw- this stuff stinks and tastes like hell. Chilling it and chugging helps. Also, the grapefruit juice kills bad taste almost instantly as well as being a potentiator.

[samuraigecko]

the post there is completely wrong. The tea actually contains hundreds of alkaloids including Morphine, Codeine, Papaverine, Thebaine, Oripavine, Narcotine etc ete. The list is LONG. Only a handful of these are medicinally useful though. There are already a HEAP of threads here pertaining to how a tea, refined opium or raw opium can be made, right down to how to precipitate morphine from the solution itself.

Example. calcium carbonate is used to precipitate the morphine alkaloid from the "tea" or solution, how else would this be possible if the morphine alkaloid was not already. present in the solution.

Hope this has been of help

[mfrieze]

Well it just says that morphine isn't water soluble so by adding calcium carbonate to the boiling tea would make it more soluble. You would then be getting more morphine correct or no?

[Nucking Futs]

Originally Posted by mfrieze

Well it just says that morphine isn't water soluble so by adding calcium carbonate to the boiling tea would make it more soluble. You would then be getting more morphine correct or no?

Hi,

SWIM'S sure when the ninja amphibian (gecko) comes back he will put this to rights if it's wrong but morphine is soluble in water straight from the opium/seeds/pods.

Also if you boil the tea you will lose some of the morphine content. I'm not sure as to the exact point of destruction but a dud i know thinks its around 75 degrees celsius.

As Gecks says look at the posts already on the site. If you go to his profile and look up all his posts you will find a gold mine of opie info.

Regards,

Me.

[mfrieze]

Originally Posted by Nucking Futs

Hi,

SWIM'S sure when the ninja amphibian (gecko) comes back he will put this to rights if it's wrong but morphine is soluble in water straight from the opium/seeds/pods.

Also if you boil the tea you will lose some of the morphine content. I'm not sure as to the exact point of destruction but a dud i know thinks its around 75 degrees celsius.

As Gecks says look at the posts already on the site. If you go to his profile and look up all his posts you will find a gold mine of opie info.

Regards,

Me.

thanks for pointing out his profile. I posted this same post somewhere else on another forum and they say this will not work. They didn't really give me a reason why it wouldn't work, though.

[samuraigecko]

the morphine alkaloid is completely water soluble. This is why the water extraction works in the first place. Codeine is a very similar molecule and is also completely water soluble in its raw alkaloidal form. When calcium carbonate is added to a "tea" solution and continued to be added until pH 9.1 is reached the CC is no longer water soluble at that pH and "falls out" or precipitates from the solution. This precipitate carries the morphine molecule alone with it and will not carry any other alkaloids with it except for an EXTREMELY small codeine taint. The precipitate is collected and the solution discarded. The precipitate is now a brown/beige clump when dried and is NOT water soluble. This is true morphine base or "Calcium Morphinate".

But other than that, the use of acids (lowering the pH) makes the raw alkaloids themselves more soluble in water from the raw plant material which facilitates the extraction process. Optimum is pH 6.5 (just below neutral) but others prefer to take it down to 5.5 (slightly more acidic).

Hope this has helped

[mfrieze]

Originally Posted by samuraigecko

the morphine alkaloid is completely water soluble. This is why the water extraction works in the first place. Codeine is a very similar molecule and is also completely water soluble in its raw alkaloidal form. When calcium carbonate is added to a "tea" solution and continued to be added until pH 9.1 is reached the CC is no longer water soluble at that pH and "falls out" or precipitates from the solution. This precipitate carries the morphine molecule alone with it and will not carry any other alkaloids with it except for an EXTREMELY small codeine taint. The precipitate is collected and the solution discarded. The precipitate is now a brown/beige clump when dried and is NOT water soluble. This is true morphine base or "Calcium Morphinate".

But other than that, the use of acids (lowering the pH) makes the raw alkaloids themselves more soluble in water from the raw plant material which facilitates the extraction process. Optimum is pH 6.5 (just below neutral) but others prefer to take it down to 5.5 (slightly more acidic).

Hope this has helped

this helped.. thank you

[TooClassic]

Originally Posted by samuraigecko

the morphine alkaloid is completely water soluble. This is why the water extraction works in the first place. Codeine is a very similar molecule and is also completely water soluble in its raw alkaloidal form. When calcium carbonate is added to a "tea" solution and continued to be added until pH 9.1 is reached the CC is no longer water soluble at that pH and "falls out" or precipitates from the solution. This precipitate carries the morphine molecule alone with it and will not carry any other alkaloids with it except for an EXTREMELY small codeine taint. The precipitate is collected and the solution discarded. The precipitate is now a brown/beige clump when dried and is NOT water soluble. This is true morphine base or "Calcium Morphinate".

But other than that, the use of acids (lowering the pH) makes the raw alkaloids themselves more soluble in water from the raw plant material which facilitates the extraction process. Optimum is pH 6.5 (just below neutral) but others prefer to take it down to 5.5 (slightly more acidic).

Hope this has helped

This has been very helpful except SWIM is confused now about which ingredient SWIM should use while making tea, Calcium or acids? What makes a better cup of tea? One made using Calcium Carbonate Or Calcium Hydroxide or a cup made using some citric acid or lemon juice to lower the ph? Does anyone have any idea which one is stronger. Swim has been searching everywhere but cant get an answer. It would be really awesome to get an answer to this question that has been plaguing SWIM for a long, long time.

[Lippmannk1]

I already made a thread like this entitield "Twelve ways to make poppy tea more potent".


http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81074

[nibble]

Originally Posted by Lippmannk1

I already made a thread like this entitield "Twelve ways to make poppy tea more potent".


http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81074

As you will see by the post date this thread was started in 2008...

[Lippmannk1]

Lol, you are correct. Now I feel like a jerk. Sorry.