Didn't smoke enough salvia Divinorum?

[Overworld]

SWIM bought a gram of 15x, and put about .1g in a bong. SWIM took in the entire hit and held it in for 20-25 seconds, and then blew the smoke out. SWIM felt his body get heavy, but only tripped slightly.

SWIM figured that this was because it was his first time, and took that same amount again the next day, and it had the same effect.

based on this, SWIM likely didn't smoke enough. how much do you think SWIM should smoke next time?

[x cynic x]

Maybe you could tell your friend to smoke until he feels the effects to a degree that they're comfortable with?

[TMM]

It's uncommon to take only one hit, and pretty difficult to take in that much with only one. Usually three long hits is the minimum. Just up the dose slightly and take more hits. Did SWIY light it for the entire duration of the inhalation? That is necessary.

Also, is the extract standardised?

[Metomni]

"It's uncommon to take only one hit, and pretty difficult to take in that much with only one. Usually three long hits is the minimum. Just up the dose slightly and take more hits. Did SWIY light it for the entire duration of the inhalation? That is necessary."

SWIY must be joking. SWIM is GONE by the time he wants to take a second hit, it's just never even a possibility, by that time he doesn't know how to use a pipe/bong anymore.

It does indeed sound like SWIY simply need to up the dose. Just load a bit more into the bong and try again. Repeat until desired result occurs. Good luck!!

[TMM]

Originally Posted by Metomni

"It's uncommon to take only one hit, and pretty difficult to take in that much with only one. Usually three long hits is the minimum. Just up the dose slightly and take more hits. Did SWIY light it for the entire duration of the inhalation? That is necessary."

SWIY must be joking. SWIM is GONE by the time he wants to take a second hit, it's just never even a possibility, by that time he doesn't know how to use a pipe/bong anymore.

Fair enough. I normally hear of people taking three hits. SWIM takes at least three himself, doesn't have the lung capacity to do the whole dose (of 20x, mainly) in one.

[Metomni]

That's impressive if SWIY can take even 2 small hits and stay coherent. SWIM smokes copious amount of weed, maybe that's how he can do enough at once. SWIM usually just packs a glass pipe (he doesn't like using bongs for salvia for some reason) full and hits it till he's gone, he never gets all of the contents, but it's always enough.

[PingoTango]

Not too sure if I agree 100% - when Chaz first started taking Salvia, he had some 10x extract. Even if he used a high-temperature jet lighter, burned all of the sage untill it was a fine white powder and held the smoke in his lungs for 30 seconds+, he got nothing more than threshold effects, whilst the people he was tripping with were all blasting off on their own internal vision quests, and became completely oblivious to the outside world.

Chaz now dosen't smoke anything less than 20x, as he finds this to be the perfect strength for inducing mystical experiences.

Some people, as with all psychadelics, will have a higher natural resistance than others.

[I<3Salvia]

It's kinda a reverse tolerance. You have to smoke a lot more to get the first high then the next high, and the next, and so forth. But as other people are saying, just smoke till you're high, it'll be easier the next time to break threshold with salvia.

[TMM]

Originally Posted by I<3Salvia

It's kinda a reverse tolerance. You have to smoke a lot more to get the first high then the next high, and the next, and so forth. But as other people are saying, just smoke till you're high, it'll be easier the next time to break threshold with salvia.

I was under the impression the reverse tolerance was temporary. That's how it was for SWIM, anyway, who got hugely boosted effects when doing it the same day or day after, but nothing noticeably stronger when taken over more lengthy periods of time.

[skmanga]

bah reverse tolerance...
from swims personal experience and his friends we have never smoked anything more than 20x, 20x only one time.
5x -10x is what swim usually smokes and even the first time swim tried it 5x was enough to breakthrough.
salvia seems to work best with porper technique and proper mindstate, the latter being something u cant really change last minute before heading into 'salvia world' or something i could point out and tell u to change, its different for everyone.

might be right about people having different natural tolerances, but im not too sure its really something u have a tolerance for.

salvia remains a mystery >_<!

and what exactly is this reverse tolerance thats spoken of, usually no one has any solid info on it.
is it something thats documented or proven?