Drug info - Why is London cocaine such poor quality?

[ClearView]

SWIM is absolutely fed up to the point of being pissed off! SWIM is so fed up with the quality of Coke in N London!

SWIM is looking for experiences of others? Thoughts?

The thing is SWIM thinks that users are being ripped off. SWIM has switch between 10 dealers and most have been poor! SWIM suspects that higher up in the chain is something nasty. When SWIM scored last week the coke made swim's heart race very rapidly but that was all. Now SWIM is no fool and knows the difference between shit and coke- and that was shit! The coke that SWIM has been scoring just makes SWIMS heart race and produces a sense of paranoia but not the euphoric effect of coke i.e. talkativeness, pure bliss and happiness, super confidence etc. SWIM is not confused and knows this because SWIM was giving a line in a bar by a 'kind' guy and after a couple of minutes SWIM felt that sweet, warm, euphoric feeling of proper coke how it used to be. SWIM has read on in this forum that cocaine is not how it used to be anymore (at least in the states) and that many people are only used to shit coke and know nothing better.

However, SWIM is suprised that other experienced users think this is the best going- just because it makes their heart race really fast! But when SWIM watches them they look edgy, paraonid, unhappy, unsociable and pissed off with contorted faces- the exact opposite effect of coke. But they still reckon it's the best thing going because of the rapid heart beat and restlessnes this shit produces.

Now no user at least in their right mind will through away a gram of coke right? Well, that's what SWIM did last night because SWIM believes it just wasn't coke.

Enough ranting anyway. SWIM is just anoyed and wondering whether there are common or similar experiences out there.

SWIMs coke habit is on hold for the moment.

[ImSoHappy]

SWIM can relate although he lives in the States. For SWIM he stopped using cocaine because 1.he was poor and 2.the quality was so shitty 95% of the time. SWIM thinks that some people like the twitchy, heart-racing, ant-social, poor quality coke because they have never tried the purer stuff and don't know what their missing out on. But anywho, SWIM understands the purity issue and it indeed pisses him off aswell. Something SWIM could do if he wants pure coke, and doesn't mind a little work, is extract the impurities with methods listed on this site. But yes SWIM understands this is a pain in the ass.

O BTW SWIM has flushed around 1/2 a gram of "coke" down the toilet after getting pretty sick from the mystery powder, he was pissed.

[anony]

My dog must be used to shitty coke too then. He told me the only affect he feels is a slight drunkeness when using coke, hence why he uses it before he goes out. After a long period of time he just feels a cloudy mind and it just numbs the brain. Although he had some coke a few weeks ago that left him uncontrollably shaking for a few hours.
Shit coke? He has never felt the "euphoria" and "warm" feeling from coke.

[ClearView]

Well, it's great to hear that SWIM is not the only one experiencing this problem.

It's crazy and sad at the same time. SWIM just wonders what this cocaine substitue might be. It can't be good for you for sure. SWIM would really love some insight into this to know what substituted rubbish SWIM has been taking. Like the previous poster mentions SWIM just feels numb and cloudy headed. I mean when SWIM takes this shit cocaine SWIM feels as if he has a cold or flu afterwards. SWIM is not getting mixed up between a hang-over from proper coke. SWIM means cold like symptoms.

SWIMs theory is that if most dealers are selling the same shit then further up the chain some greedy guy is just cutting it or replacing it with nasty powders! SWIM is no consiperacy theorist either but SWIM reckons that maybe even the authorities could be involved in this i.e. cutting up seized coke or swapping it with nasty powder and then releasing it into the streets. It's a sure way of reducing demand (since SWIM has put a stop to using for the moment because of shoddy goods and may even permanently stop Coke all together if this carries on).

As Rod Stewart says "Why bother with cocaine now?". Google it...

Dealers must not be the smartest people around otherwise they will realise (like big companies realise customer satisfaction is king). Mess this up and your cash flow diminishes. What's the point in shooting yourself in the foot...

Users are to be blamed as well for being mugs. Some users will convince you that coke in rock form is the authentic stuff. Rock or powder makes not difference to quality...Tasting makes not difference either. Short of carrying a mass spectrometer in your pocket the chances of being mugged are high

[anony]

swim has a friend that used to do coke all the time but she cut down alot. swim's friend introduced him to it at first and she said it was nice. swim tried it and just made him aggressive especially when all ran out. swim's friend didn't understand it and said there's no point in swim doing it if it makes swim like that and swim's friend doesn't want to be around him when swim does it.
my theory for that is the quality coke swim's friend was getting back in the day was alot better than what people are used to today. the shit that is probably going up people's nose' now is probably complete shit hence why it just clouds swim's brain (what i said in my earlier post)... cause its not supposed to be sniffed.
when i mentioned earlier about coke just "clouding" my dog's brain, does swiy get the same affect? he tells me after a large amount he can't really think and it just relaxes him really as he has nothing to think about, although swim thinks that these aren't supposed to be the real affects of coke?

[Kolon]

SWIM knows someone who is in the UK at the moment and to say he/she is dismayed at the quality of the product is an understament. SWIM is told that the cola comes from many sources at the higer end of the evolutionary scale, but most-If not all of it is crap!

This seems to be a problem theses days and SWIM understands that the poorer quality crap is more common than not these days.

As for the Acetone wash for improving British cola (generalisation) forget it! All it does is reduces the sting going up the nose. (placebo nothingelse!)

SWIM is informed that many people doing cola (washed or not) are really getting themselves at it these days!

[Aar0n]

I think a lot of this is generalisation. Whilst it may be true that the top level suppliers are the same, for all SWIYs out there in the UK, I think a large problem is down to the lower level dealers. SWIM's cocaine has been pretty poor too, but only since new year. SWIM is in Brighton (I believe this is relevant before a mod deletes it. It's near to London). Has anyone else encountered this problem moreso after new year?

SWIM's stuff was really quite good before then, and even better after being washed.

[aerozeppelin123]

Not sure how long it's been like that (SWIM doesn't do coke) but a couple of weeks ago I saw on the news a very big bust of a cocaine ring - so the quality would undoubtedly go down for a while. Although that might be too recent to affect it significantly, I'm not too sure.

[Aar0n]

Interesting news, aerozepplin123. It's a shame another big bust has taken place. 100Kg has gone. They should've given it to SWIM!

Story is here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...cocaine114.xml

[anony]

also swim saw a month or so ago that there was some really REALLY strong coke in circulation though.

[ClearView]

Unfortunately, the coke was shit way before that bust in London happened. SWIM just believes that users are being taken for a ride.

Also, in response to the post regarding REALLY strong coke- that is not coke believe SWIM. This is the stuff that's currently going around and because it makes people's heart knock around in their rib cages and makes people look tense doesn't mean it's strong- far from it. SWIM as had proper coke (the way it used to be) and although coke and amphetamens raise your hear rate you will not notice your heart knocking around inside your rib cage.

Please verify this for SWIM but coke is supposed to be euphoric. Like when popping ecstacy you heart doesn't knock around but it does increase your in rate. Same with coke...the first thing you feel is not your heart going a million miles an hour but similar to that effect from ecstacy- with a warm glow starting from you feet and risng up to your head- thoughts seem sharper, words role of the tongue before you even say them etc. Your heart rate increases but it is not obvious.

SWIM knows because SWIM was lucky to even score a line of proper coke recently and the feeling was instant confidence, instant happiness, just feeling on top of the world.... SWIM knows the REALLY strong coke (which is the one that SWIM has thrown away at least three times) and this just makes you anti-social, unable to even crack a smile. NO EUPHORIA.

SWIM will mention one example when SWIMs dealer called him and said he had some REALLY strong coke. Said dealer said this will blow your mind. SWIM picked up a G, was ready and dressed up to go to a massive rave at the o2 dome. SWIM took a line and felt that horrible feeling- rapid heart rate, no euphoria. SWIM had to call his friend and make some excuse that he couldn't make it because his car won't start.

This apparantly strong coke seems to be making the rounds and sooner or later SWIM bets that it will kill someone and the chemical contents will be exposed.

[Aar0n]

Originally Posted by ClearView

Please verify this for SWIM but coke is supposed to be euphoric. Like when popping ecstacy you heart doesn't knock around but it does increase your in rate. Same with coke...the first thing you feel is not your heart going a million miles an hour but similar to that effect from ecstacy- with a warm glow starting from you feet and risng up to your head- thoughts seem sharper, words role of the tongue before you even say them etc. Your heart rate increases but it is not obvious.

That's how SWIMs coke was before the new year. SWIM isn't saying it's uber strong, or uber pure, but compared to all the other coke, it was really, really fantastic. Utter euphoria for SWIM

[Kolon]

Sorry SWIYs, SWIM hates to tell ya this but unless SWIY is top level in Britain then the shite SWIYs is getting aint the real deal. Fact! (Even then at the top it aint exactly quality SWIM has heard)

SWIClearview has hit the nail on the head there are a lot of 'chemicals' being passed off as coke in the UK right now.

Sad but true.

[Aar0n]

Originally Posted by Kolon

Sorry SWIYs, SWIM hates to tell ya this but unless SWIY is top level in Britain then the shite SWIYs is getting aint the real deal. Fact! (Even then at the top it aint exactly quality SWIM has heard)

SWIClearview has hit the nail on the head there are a lot of 'chemicals' being passed off as coke in the UK right now.

Sad but true.

Very sad indeed. SWIM did mention that SWIM wasn't saying it's pure or whatever. SWIM should've said it's good coke compared to all the other stuff SWIM has tried. SWIM longs for 100% pure cocaine. Maybe SWIM should move to Peru or somewhere like that

[Silentscream]

Swim is also from N London.
When swim first discovered coke four years back, he remembers it being euphoric, highly charged, confident and energetic. No sting from the lines and certainly nothing but a bit of a stuffy nose the next day.

After taking a break for a couple of years, since 2006 swim has found the coke in and around london to be nothing like the coke he remembers.

Snorting (even just one line) results in a horribly painful sting in the sinus, followed by a week of completely swollen - to the point where breathing is no possible - sinuses, blowing chunks of white skin from his nose, and a non stop drip of clear nasal fluid.
Swim attempted sublingual use (under the tongue) to which he reacted with a few days of swollen tissue under the tongue, which felt as though he had a nasty burn in his mouth.

Swims friends report nothing like this, however they do agree that the cocaine around is NOTHING like it was four years ago when they first started.

I believe swim is allergic to whatever is being used to cut the product - and this cannot be from street level dealers because Swim reports that it is the same with coke from London, Portsmouth, Cornwall, Leeds, Manchester (swim has friends at universities up and down the country)..

[Kolon]

Originally Posted by Silentscream

I believe swim is allergic to whatever is being used to cut the product - and this cannot be from street level dealers because Swim reports that it is the same with coke from London, Portsmouth, Cornwall, Leeds, Manchester (swim has friends at universities up and down the country)..

SWIM has been told by a man/woman that UK Coke is stamped all over even before it gets to the shores (Big Time) Then depending where SWIY gets the product it can be smashed a good few times more. Various things are used as a bulking agent rather than just the one.

There is such a big market for the stuff now in the UK with every Tom, Dick or Harriet wanting some at the weekends, quality has dropped significantly due to the once 'exclusivity' tag now being lost. In times gone by Tom, Dick or Harriet couldn't have sourced the product or possible even afforded it.

Now coke is flooding the social scene and a high number of users don't really care what the quality is like as long as they get a 'buzz' off whatever they are snorting and are able to say they are on Charlie tonight!

Its not all gloom and doom so SWIM has heard, SWIYs can sometimes obtain a quality product its just against the odds these days.

This is what SWIM has be told anyway.

[ClearView]

Well, SWIM is suggesting a campaign against shit coke and SWIM will urge any SWIYS who have experienced or are experiencing shit coke (not just in London) to reject dealers. Besides just being plain wrong ripping off anyone when selling dodgy powder, claiming false nutritional contents in foods or drinks or inflating tap water sold at restaurants to astronomical heights. Ripping off is plain wrong and SWIM feels very strongly against this. Besides, hard earned money leaving your wallet, ripping people off is plain wrong.

IMPORTANT

1. It is not possible to tell good coke by observation or tasting. There are myths such as it 'it's rock so it must be good', 'it looks shiny', 'it smells sweet' etc etc. Coke has no odour naturally and anybody can press powder into rock
2. If the coke is making you anything else but euphoric then it is not coke. It took SWIM a long time to accept this. Even though SWIM knows that he is taking shit he will continually take it because he has spent a lot of money on it; because it produces some kind of feeling cloudy head/heart thumping/numbness/paranoia and because there is nothing better out there. SWIYs must resist this and if necessary refrain from coke all together.
3. If coke (especially what's currently going around London) is making your heart racing dangerously high and you are getting no high from it then do not risk SWIY health and just throw it away.
4. SWIM knows there are some good posts here about coke identifcation. Any SWIYs here care to add their own tips.

SWIM also went to Ibiza last summer and was pre-warned that the coke there was shit. Actually, the coke was really shit and every raver in Ibiza agrees. To describe the feeling, it's not as dangerous as London coke but it just feels like nothing; a slight increase in temperature and a runny nose nothing else. Looks like some of this coke has been making it's way to London also and SWIM as had some of this in London.

[epote]

It is not possible to tell good coke by observation or tasting. There are myths such as it 'it's rock so it must be good', 'it looks shiny', 'it smells sweet' etc etc. Coke has no odour naturally and anybody can press powder into rock

amen brother! BUT, pure cocaine that is confined depending on the manufacturing procedure (solvents used, amount of hcl acid etc) and alkaloid profile does tend to take a sweetish smell kind of like bitter almond with lemon. Swim is saying this after dreaming a cocaine extraction and storing it. Both times it did this.

If the coke is making you anything else but euphoric then it is not coke. It took SWIM a long time to accept this. Even though SWIM knows that he is taking shit he will continually take it because he has spent a lot of money on it; because it produces some kind of feeling cloudy head/heart thumping/numbness/paranoia and because there is nothing better out there. SWIYs must resist this and if necessary refrain from coke all together.

thats not true...It depends on set and setting, heavily. Take swims word for this, search swims posts you will see that swim uses only home made cocaine and he can verify that the euphoria depends alot on the expectations and mind set. Same goes for the crash. The heart racing thing can be either from non cocaine alkaloids and isomers or from caffeine, quinine, ephedrine even clenbuterol is used...But again, non oxidized cocaine tends to be much more "speedy" i.e. physical than oxidized cocaine, and given the restrictions regarding KMnO4 possetion in colombia actually getting oxidized cocaine is mighty hard...

If coke (especially what's currently going around London) is making your heart racing dangerously high and you are getting no high from it then do not risk SWIY health and just throw it away.

in a sellers market the ONLY weapon the consumer has is to boycot the product. If no one buys SHITY cocaine no one will SELL shity cocaine. But people are mindless drones for the most part, they will use whatever they can find thoughtlessly.

do not become victims of a substance, be a connoisseur, if the coke is bad dont get high on it, dont buy it at all, cocaine is an experience meant to be indulged in rarely. But most of all do not give your money to a no good sleasbag that will sell you shit just because he knows you will buy it

[Kolon]

As SWIM has been informed in the UK poor quality coke is mainly down to the 'new' market that wants its. Many people using are not really about what kind of quality they are getting as long as they 'think' they are doing coke that is the important thing to them and whatever kind of 'buzz' they get is good enough for them.

In the 1980s Coke was (SWIM has been told) much harder to obtain, more expensive and had a smaller core market. The people who induldged then knew what they wanted and moved in close circles - normally needing an introduction or at least to know someone. Now walk into many bars and a G can be obtained very easily.

Mass market = crap product.

This is what SWIM has been told.

[anony]

swim picked up a gram and some pills yesterday and sat in the pub all day drinking with a few others. swim sniffed about 3 lines in quick succession before swim got to the pub. the first pub they went to, swim barely spoke. just sat there feeling paranoid and like shit. 30 mins-1 hr later it wore off swim and he dropped a couple of pills. next hour felt awesome. swim finished the coke, but swim began to think coke is really shit and nowhere near the price swim is paying for the shit. swim is going off caine rapidly. why would someone want to pay a high price for something which leaves swim sitting there paranoid and feeling like shit?

[someotherguy]

SWIM Has recently bought coke from a street dealer he met and the amounts were TERRIBLE. but the coke was really good. on other hand, swim has had good amounts but shite coke. SWIM also found a happy medium from a reliable guy so its not allll bad..

[anony]

But swiy is from canada?

[ClearView]

Originally Posted by anony

But swiy is from canada?

LOL! I like that. But SWIM knows that SHIT coke is making the rounds globally.

SWIM was out this weekend and yet again SWIM found new dealer (dealers are easy to find in most London Clubs/Bars); just ask the guy with his hands in his pockets in the corner a)not checking the girls, b)not appreciating any of the music being played. However, that's a sterotype too far. Dealer can be in suit, pyjamas, mini-skirt whatever...

Anyway, SWIM met new dealer who gauranteed that his shit was the best but was waiting to pickup. So SWIM exchanged numbers and...well let me just cut to the chase. His coke (yet again) was shit no euphoria as usual. SWIM had to keep taking it every 10 minutes and it just made SWIM unable to talk or smile and in-animate (opposite of coke). Coke was hard as rock and has damaged the egdes of SWIMS visa debit card. So there. Well, SWIM will keep hunting as SWIM knows that good coke is out there but it is like trying to hunt for a new undescovered planet in the night sky!

-PS SWIM is not an astronomer

[fiveleggedrat]

In the United States, most is garbage too.

Swim knows people in the importation chain. There are some reasons why it's garbage so often.

1) Cutting it with amphetamines is cheap and sort of makes the coke "go farther", in terms of how strong a high is.

2) Largely, the market demands amphetamine laden product. Swim has seen firsthand people COMPLAIN from clean, 80% pure product, that it was not "speedy" or "strong" enough for them.

Swim believes much of the cocaine market today is tweakers who equate amphetamine/speed and coke as almost, if not, the same thing.

In Florida, it is hard for swim to find a good ounce or two, much less something smaller that is not pure cut.

Even the kilograms that come from overseas are already cut 20-30 percent.

[anony]

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