ephedrine in place of speed

[William_Again]

I was wondering I got all sorts of nasal decongestants around the house
and I heard that crushing them up and taking them (cause the contain
psuedoephedrine and a time release shell) can produce effects similar
to speed, but what I am confused about is first on the net some
websites have reported that you only need like 50mg of this to produce
the same effects of speed, but others claim you need like 300. I have
taken sudafed, crushed, at doses of 480mg (of psuedoephedrine) and felt
little of nothing...am I off on the dosage, do I have some sort of odd
tolerance considering I so rarely have done speed, or is this just not
possible?

[William_Again]

...Sorry I posted this in the wrong section...but if you glance at it, respond if you know anything...

[just12b4gotn]

If you are trying to kill yourself, you are on the right track.
Ephedrine and Pseudo ephedrine are similar to the amphetamines, but are not to be considered safe for use as a recreational drug. The mistaken belief that an over-the-counter drug is safer to experiment has been the demise of more than a few.
Heed some genuinely sincere advice : Get a new hobby.

[Nitrate]

480mg did nothing? Either someone has switched your medication
for the sleepaid or your already have quite a tolerance to
(psudo)ephedrine. You sould also know that these medications
have a rebound effect when taken longer than a few days. You likely
don't have a cold - it is just a form of withdrawl. You may or
may not realize it but you also likely take these medications for more
than cold relief, like keeping awake, energy, feel better, weight loss,
etc. If this is true consider quitting so that the next time you
have a cold (or need to stay awake) these meds work.



If I took 480mg I would not be able to sleep or have sex for the next
day at least. I have taken 360mg in a 24 hour period but it
allowed me to go almost 48 hours without sleep. I find even 60mg
almost euphoric.



I have to admit I never take sudifed for colds. I take it to stay
awake. I find caffine is nicer for colds and psudo better for
staying awake. I don't think I'm not abusing it - I'm just more
honest about it.

[Micutzul]

Originally Posted by Nitrate

If I took 480mg I would not be able to sleep or have sex for the next
day at least. I have taken 360mg in a 24 hour period but it
allowed me to go almost 48 hours without sleep. I find even 60mg
almost euphoric.

You are talking about pseudo-ephedrine or ephedrine ? From what i understand , pseudoephedrine is less CNS stimulating than ephedrine . But maybe i heard wrong . Anyone tried both ? I would like to know for sure if pseudo is weaker in it's abuse potential .

[machine_elf]

The above post is correct, pseudoephedrine produces very little CNS stimulation. Ephedrine however does function as a CNS stimulant. These compounds are related, not the same. Infact, the reason pseudoephedrine is preferred in otc medications is most likely due to is lack of stimulation.

[violentcheetah]

In the US theyve changed alot of the ingredients in otc cold and allergy meds, I didnt see where you were though so this might not even apply to you.

[violentcheetah]

If thats your thing than swim suggests you check out concentrated Redline at your local healthfood store. Get the concentrated liquid that has a little dosage spoon not the drink.

[bloot]

Originally Posted by violentcheetah

In the US theyve changed alot of the ingredients in otc cold and allergy meds, I didnt see where you were though so this might not even apply to you.

Yes, it has been changed to Phenylephrine.

[bassintro]

If you are trying to get high off of cold medications just take some DXM (dextrometherphan) take 240 mg's of it and you will be feelin nice and can buy it at any store that sells meds

[bman1]

Bass are you trying to kill this kid. He is allready taking OTC that can be harmfull, now he is just going to grab the first robo bottle he sees. You need to state only take robo with DXM as theONLY active ingredient. If not can posion or KILL be more caredfull telling someone to take drugs they may listen. ALSO IT ISNOTHING LIKE SPEED if that is what your trying for Read about it befor you do it and befor you end up dead

[William_Again]

well thanks, but I am an experienced Robo user (its actually may fav)
so no need to worry, I am just a bit confused about ephedrine
dosage cause I seem to have an unheard of natural tolerance...most
people state anywhere from 50-150 is enough to get you spun...that isnt
the case with me...and I so rarely touch ephedrine or speed.

[bman1]

Ephedrine is not much like speed only mildly euphoric. Swim would not suggest taking more than you already have tried to take it is not to good for you 50 - 150 is an average does some people take a little more. If your looking for stimulants try yohimbes, yeba mates, many ethnogenes have stimulating effect but none much thestrengh of speed red bull gets swim more awake the edpedrine

[BumpBump]

Ephedrine makes swim feel more got and adgitated than euphoric, it does have stimualnting effects but not plesant like speed. Body builders take ity in stacks but often have to lower the ephedrine levels to start as they dont get the nasty effects of the ephedrine. google ECA stack. SWIM is not sure if psuedoephedrine will give you any euphoria and can be dangerous

[bloot]

Originally Posted by William_Again

I was wondering I got all sorts of nasal decongestants around the house
and I heard that crushing them up and taking them (cause the contain
psuedoephedrine and a time release shell) can produce effects similar
to speed, but what I am confused about is first on the net some
websites have reported that you only need like 50mg of this to produce
the same effects of speed, but others claim you need like 300. I have
taken sudafed, crushed, at doses of 480mg (of psuedoephedrine) and felt
little of nothing...am I off on the dosage, do I have some sort of odd
tolerance considering I so rarely have done speed, or is this just not
possible?

Do not snort the (pseudo)ephedrine. By crushing them, breaking the time release, all you have to do is swallow the powder. Or if you can't stand the taste just parachute it. Snorting something in such small doses is just such a waste.

[sarbanes]

A bit of topic, but its funny how PPA has been pulled/demonized because of potential (very rare) to cause stroke. I find it laughable believing this was the real, primary motive behind it being pulled. How about a little honesty, FDA? Just because something could plausibly be true doesn't mean you have carte blanch to say its true. This is where I feel children are more mature in many ways than adults, as they are more honest, straight forward, and less two face, phony lying. I love kids, but I hate so many adults. So many phonies out there, its sad.