opiod withdrawal, mainly hot and cold, mostly cold

[JaWill88]

swim has taken care of most of the symptoms that come with his opioid withdrawal with lots of clonazepam and a little alcohol. the one thing that bothers swim the most is the hot and cold sensations. other than that swim actually feels alright. the only symptom he feels right now is hot and cold flashes. he has taken enough clonazpeam and alcohol to really take away all the other horrible symptoms. if swim coudl get rid of the hot and cold, he would be good. is there any medicines/help, that help out with this particulat symptom? any advice would be greatly appreciated. thanks.

[samuraigecko]

ahh the flushes. sorry SWIM cannot be of help here either. sometimes a snifter of cognac works other times it doesnt. SWIM is experiencing the exact same thing right now as he is doing his yearly cleanout at the moment.

SWIM would be interested in what others have to say regarding the hot / cold flushes thing though

[SpaceCadetGlow]

SWIM has gone through the same hot/cold sensations several times. For him, they were mostly cold, and the only relief he knew involved hot showers, blankets and beds. As for the hot flushes, SWIM found drinking plenty of ice-cold water to be very helpful. SWIY might be surprised at how effectively the water's cool temperatures spread throughout the body. SWIM knows he was.

Other than that, one can only wait it out, unless something like Suboxone or Methadone is an option, but that's a whole different ball game. Take care.

[samuraigecko]

To genuinely go through opiate withdrawal and come out clean, methadone or suboxone should never be considered to be an option.

SWIM has done this for 20 years without the use of methadone or suboxone (buprenorphine) and it is manageable IF one keeps the will power flowing.

Hope this has been of help

[SpaceCadetGlow]

no doubt.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

The only relief swim has ever found for this was benzodiazepines,hot showers,and baths.Sorry swim can't be of more help,these are the most troubling symptoms.Swim hates getting under the covers to get warm then noticing he is too hot.Withdrawals just shut swim down.He doesn't care about his appearance,about being around people,about even trying to be civil.Ugly experience all around.

[bloodred1889]

agreed dont go down the methadone route.
my mums addicted to methadone from when she was a heroin addict.
now shes a methadone addict, and methadone has a longer nastier withdrawel.
like months instead of weeks :S

some people choose to go back to heroin rather then go onto methadone simply because its easier to get off.
and many people do after a while.
some dont.

swim has seen enough eveidence to say that methadone is a nasty horrible drug that causes mor trouble then good.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Swim has discovered a horrible fact.If swiy goes the methadone route,the suboxone route,the heroin route no matter which one it is swiy is still an addict.Swiy will slip deeper into addiction and remain that way for many years.It reaches the point where swiy's brain loses the abillity to make its natural opiates and no matter if they ween swiy off opiates properly swiy will never feel right again without them.Its pretty grim but swim has reallized it is true.

[bloodred1889]

yes...

this is a well known fact.. youve only just realized this?

[Orchid_Suspiria]

No its not a well known fact.The concept they push is that one can taper off and then be just fine no matter what the amount of damage.Swim even sees that concept repeated here.It is nice to have hope but the truth is some people won't ever be alright.

[Sportsguy86]

Originally Posted by samuraigecko

To genuinely go through opiate withdrawal and come out clean, methadone or suboxone should never be considered to be an option.

SWIM has done this for 20 years without the use of methadone or suboxone (buprenorphine) and it is manageable IF one keeps the will power flowing.

Hope this has been of help

I'm sorry, Samuraigecko, but your story seems so mind-boggling that it pretty much can't be true. You mean to tell us that you've been addicted to opiates for 20 years, and each year you voluntarily completely a cold-turkey withdrawal WITH the intention of using again in the near future? How in the h*ll could you keep the motivation to not use if your plan was not to quit for good?

It's nearly impossible to not use even if your aspiration is to cut the sh*t out of your life. When you're deep in withdrawals, what do you think to motivate you to not use? Ah, please, gotta make it a few more days to get clean so I can start using again?

Please enlighten me here. Please.

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Swim will admit swiSamuraigecko does have a pretty mindboggling story and swim had trouble believing it at first himself.However swiSamuraigecko does seem to be both a knowledgeable and honest person and swim sees no reason not to believe him

[TooManyCarAccidents]

What about the hot flushes SWIM gets even while taking the meds? Seems to be worse when she takes anything time-released. SWIM has tried Inderal to help combat it, and she says it helps and she'll be fine a few weeks, then BAM, flushing and sweating again! Happens with fentanyl, oxycontin, opana, avinza, etc. I think she's good about taking her meds the same time most days.

Is there anything OTC that SWIM can get in France or the UK while traveling to help?

[nancydrew]

Originally Posted by TooManyCarAccidents

What about the hot flushes SWIM gets even while taking the meds? Seems to be worse when she takes anything time-released. SWIM has tried Inderal to help combat it, and she says it helps and she'll be fine a few weeks, then BAM, flushing and sweating again! Happens with fentanyl, oxycontin, opana, avinza, etc. I think she's good about taking her meds the same time most days.

Is there anything OTC that SWIM can get in France or the UK while traveling to help?

hello, sorry to hear you're going through all of this. swim's currently on her seventh week of going cold turkey off of 160 mgs of methadone. catapress patches aka clonodine seemed to have helped swim out especially when swim would get the sweats. also, swim would spend plenty of time taking very hot baths, sitting in the sauna or hot tub to engage in a bit of self endorphin stimulation. additionally, swim's doctor was leary to provide benzos but instead rx'ed vistaril (generic name hydroxizine), which is an anti-anxiety/sleep aid/anti-histamine. 100mgs of this when feeling the flush come seems to help significantly at at least mitigating the mental effects of feeling like crap. The anxiety and edginess only seem to exacerbate things as swim would get so perturbed with this particular system. swim's boyfriend also took vistaril under similar circumstances and found it to be quite a help. hope this helps!