DXM hydrobromide vs. polistirex (Delsym)

[par excellence.]

What's the difference? Which is better?

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[devil]

Polistirex (Delsym) is designed to release slowly (like a capsule). I think most people here would vote for the hydrobromide? </span>

[Toxicity]

Hydrobromide is definenately better, although that only my opinion. Polistirex takes way</span> too long for you to become intoxicated, and to some, it's less powerfull then hydrobromide.

[club222]

I prefer the HBR also. Polistirex was a "different" trip, definitely not as strong as HBR.

[RoboCop]

DXM polistirex converts less of the DXM into DXO than hbr. DXO is what gives more of the dissociative feelings, while dxm gives different effects. The body naturally converts DXM -&gt; DXO but with delsym less is converted. Depends on whether you like the DXM effects or the DXO effects. I have a post under the Delsym thread that explains this to more depth if you want to look at it. I personally like hbr more because the dxo dissociation is what is needed for a good trip (in my opinion.) But as syrup goes I much rather drink delsym, and take some dxm gelcaps with it, to balance out the DXO/DXM ratio a little more. Don't drink delsym over a period of time that will give you even less DXO, chug it all at once. But since it is naturally time released this wont help to much. Same with regular hbr syrups, the faster you drink them the more dxo will be converted. However even spacing out the hbr you will get more dxo converted than with polistirex. Hoped this helped explain things a little bit.

[tweakerfrommars]

I guess I can just back up what everyone else has said. I probably used polistirex three times out of about two dozen DXM trips, and each time was severely disappointed. Takes too long, trip isn't nearly as fulfilling, little to no dissociation even at high doses, and even just the little things, like CEVs weren't as brilliant and fascinating as usual. (And the types of CEVs I get from DXM while listening to my favorite music are much of the reason I do it in the first place, discounting dissociation completely).

[Rave_Pixie]

Hbr, all the way. Better trip. Plus, polystirex is horrible for your liver, and the health risks are much higher.

well polistyrex +'s
taste better, you need less, still intoxicates you, lasts LONGER
-'s
polistyrex is bad for you, polistyrex taste like shit, it makes makes it hit you slower, it makes you not as in toxicated

hbr +'s
hits you FASTER, hits you HARDER, short duration, more widely availible, there are pills available
-'s
need to take more of it, taste like SHIT

you decide whats better

[pr0m3theus]

Hbr, without a doubt. I've found that it kicks in faster, lasts a
bit longer (though that might just be a slight time distortion, I
haven't timed the two for comparison, though I'll try to fix that
soon), and is a generally more intensive experiance.



Not to say that polistirex isn't worth a shot (the trip seemed different to me), but personally i'll stick with Hbr.</span>

polistirex is good if you want it to last long. hbr if you are doing it with friends at night

[bubaloo]

i personally prefer polistirex, its funny taking it just as you go to sleep.

[hazeinmybong2]

My balls itch more on polistirex, anyone else have similar experiences? More of a delsym itch than robo ever gave me.

[Muirner]

i dont itch on dsylum. just on robo and only the first time i do it again after a break.

Anyways i enjoy a small bottle of Dsylum and then about 200mg of Robo or HBr, they feed off of eachother, and a trip with afterglow can last ~14 hours. You wake up with a feeling and an afterglow the next day, def a wierd feeling but it's fun.


Muirner

[jesusfreak666er]

HBr+
hits faster (1 hour)
more "stoned feeling"
cheaper

HBr-
need to drink more
shorter trip
less intense hallucinations due to the lower ratio of DXO to DXM
generally tastes horrible (tussin)
safer (not to say either is really "safe")

Poly +
you need to drink less
more intense trips, including better visuals
Tastes much better, quite good (Delsym)
much longer trips

Poly-
much worse for your liver and stomach (polystritex is a edible plastic)
worse hangovers (for me atleast)
much longer trips (if you are not looking for a long trip)
more expensive (delsym is $10 bucks a bottle)
takes about 2 hours to "hit"

In conclusion try em both, make up ur own I have tried both and like em both depending on how em feeling, I sometimes would mix 4-5ml of delsym with 3-4ml of tussin and that was intensive (warning this is for experiance robotrippers do not attempt unless you have experiance with 3-4 platau highs)

[Muirner]

jeyez- i think your mistaken, sense polystriex is time released, small amounts of DXO get released over a longer period of time. This is DXM > DXO.

With HBr the conversion will be faster thus DXO > DXM.

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...ghlight=dsylum my adventures with polistirex.

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9848 adventures with HBr

Muirner

[Faust]

.. this thread may be a little dated, but, I think i can put in my two cents.
I f*cking love to robo trip, and there is a huge difference between the two, mainly its the time release (which causes a number of different variations to occur) but mostly it is in the chemistry of the .. well chugger i guess. DXM is converted at different dosages in every persons body .. so HBr could be awsome for one person while Polistirex could be another persons bag, its all in finding out what your candy is

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[bewilderment]

I also thought it was more of a dxo trip with the polistirex as well, but this is just citing from memory and if anyone wants to know for sure just look it up as it's not difficult to find out. Anyway, my monkey has communicated to me that it depends upon the situation as to whether she prefers delsym or other dxm hbr concoctions. The delsym is certainly harder on the body, but my monkey has found that it can be pretty fun in situations where you need to be somewhat in control unlike the Hbr which can get you completely blitzed. The polistirex is more like a 1-2 plateau trip even if you take a lot...it can be fun for social situations as it lowers inhibitions and gives a great mood lift. My monkey says that she likes the Hbr for when she wants to go on a psychic journey and plans on having a comfy stay at home or some other safe place. But, then again, she also says that mixing the two is sometimes very nice because you don't have to eat/drink so much of the much nastier tasting Hbr.

[eche05]

The equivilence of dextromethorphan HBr to dextromethorphan polisterix is roughly:
30mg of HBr equivilent to 120mg of polisterix (recreationally) which is a 1:4 ratio of HBr to polisterix.

[EscapeDummy]

Swim once tried predosing with 30 mg delsym (supposedly =~120mg HBr) about 2 hours before he had 300mg's of dxm HBr. He thinks it worked out well; the two peaked about the same time, and it felt to swim like a regular HBr trip, except smoother and a little longer. This is all in retrospect, though, he wasn't thinking about it at the time, and it may have just been like a normal trip. Still, it felt like it had a slightly different character.

[zzajlatem]

hello fellow dxm knowledge seekers!
like everyone here says "SWIM" is experienced and he made a recipe that he likes a lot. it is not reccomended if you value your health or sanity, but he's still alive and just loves this mixture.

Super-Tussin!
5oz Delsym (shake well before pouring!)
4oz maximum strength cough syrup (store brand)
1 bottle robitussin maximum strength pills (the famous red ones)

swim told me these directions: (his exact words)
soak the pills in a little hot water and cut them up with scissors. remove the solid gel cap peices the best you can. a metal strainer works best. the mesh kind. put all of the ingredients in one container like a water bottle and shake it well again.

the next steps after this should be obvious and the taste should be ok. not total cherry nastiness, but not quit the yummy orange flavor either.
share lots of knowledge and try not to make this face

[bewilderment]

Well, if swiy does decide to use polistirex then don't use it often because it's said to be 2 times harder on your body than HBR. It's also said that 15 mgs of polystirex=30mg of HBr so if you get the 3 oz. bottle then that will be equal to 531mg of dxm Hbr. There are also 5 oz. bottles I believe, but I forget how much they have in them. It also increases the ratio of DXM to DXO. DXO is responsible for the 'stoning' effects and DXM affects things like stimulation, cognitive alterations, and delusions. Swim always found polistirex to be less intense but longer lasting. She found polistirex to be more of a recreational and social drug while Hbr was more of an introspective tool. But, do not use this product often (or at all) because if dxm does indeed cause lesions then the polistirex version is much more likely to cause them. Also, the first few times swim used polistirex, the trip was very intense...I can't recall whether she drank the 3 oz. or 5 oz so I still wouldn't plan anything where you need to be functional. After the first couple of times, the trip was quite mild on the polistirex. Swim definately prefers the HBr.

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[PsychoActivist]

Originally Posted by bewilderment

Well, if swiy does decide to use polistirex then don't use it often because it's said to be 2 times harder on your body than HBR. It's also said that 15 mgs of polystirex=30mg of HBr so if you get the 3 oz. bottle then that will be equal to 531mg of dxm Hbr. There are also 5 oz. bottles I believe, but I forget how much they have in them. It also increases the ratio of DXM to DXO. DXO is responsible for the 'stoning' effects and DXM affects things like stimulation, cognitive alterations, and delusions. Swim always found polistirex to be less intense but longer lasting. She found polistirex to be more of a recreational and social drug while Hbr was more of an introspective tool. But, do not use this product often (or at all) because if dxm does indeed cause lesions then the polistirex version is much more likely to cause them. Also, the first few times swim used polistirex, the trip was very intense...I can't recall whether she drank the 3 oz. or 5 oz so I still wouldn't plan anything where you need to be functional. After the first couple of times, the trip was quite mild on the polistirex. Swim definately prefers the HBr.

SWIM apologizes for bumping this old ass thread but he thought it would be more appropriate than creating a new one. SWIM has very much experience with DXM but not so much with Polistirex. He doesn't like to go past the 2nd plateau anymore. He realizes the polistirex is time-released. But he was wondering if the information above is true or can be confirmed that a 3oz bottle of Delsym is equal to 531mg's of Hbr. Seems like a bit much. Would it FEEL like 531 mg's? He has a 5 oz bottle and is unsure how much to take for a high 2nd plateau dose. For SWIM he usually gets a high 2nd plateau dose from about 450 mg's of Hbr. He realizes that Polistirex will act differently and produce a slightly different high and he has taken it before but if he wanted to get where about 450 mg's of Hbr takes him, approx how much Delsym should he drink?

Thanks in advance and Happy New year!

[Fat Cop]

"There may be a marked difference between dextromethorphan hydrobromide, contained in most cough suppressant preparations, and dextromethorphan polistirex, contained in the brand name preparation Delsym. Polistirex is an edible plastic surrounding the dextromethorphan molecule, allowing for timed release as the stomach acids break down the plastic. As a cough suppressant, the polistirex version lasts up to 12 hours, so this duration may also hold true when used recreationally."

[Richard_smoker]

If using the DXM for kicking opiate addiction, I would HIGHLY recommend the polystyrex version... especially if that addiction is from hydrocodone.

Delsym is the one that I would recommend. Thanks to forthesevenlakes for this recommendation. I would feel remiss without giving proper credit where it is due.

Delsym is the DXM version of TUSSIONEX!

Never heard of tussionex? Then you're probably not very addicted to hydrocodone! This is considered by most (ALL!) to be the golden elixir of hydro addicts. It is the polystyrex form of hydrocodone--lasting 6-8 hours and is extremely addictive and pleasurable as well. Anyways, delsym tastes the exact same and is very easy to transition into--that is, with the correct mindset of actually aborting the opiates.

[Aopocetx]

SWIM tried it. Delsym 3 oz bottle. Funny thing is that it says "Non-narcotic" on the label. It tasted fucking great. Anyway, SWIM liked it a lot except that it has now been 23 hours and I'm still feeling effects. It IS annoyingly long.