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Coffeeshop crackdown
by Pete Brady (19 Jan, 2004)
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Dutch government wants tourists banned from buying buds.


In late 2003, Dutch Justice Minister Jan Piet Hein Donner announced plans to prohibit Holland's 782 pot coffeeshops from selling cannabis products to "foreigners."

Donner's proposal is the latest anti-coffeeshop action sponsored by the Christian Democrat Appeal (CDA), which is the most powerful political party in the Dutch coalition government. Previous CDA proposals include trying to close shops for violating clean air regulations, trying to prevent shops from selling buds containing over 6% THC, and banning off-duty police officers from buying cannabis at coffeeshops.

Coffeeshops in Holland have always operated under restrictions. They may only sell five grams per customer each day, and cannot advertise or promote marijuana in any way. This is why they are called "coffeeshops" instead of "cannabis cafes" or "weed shops," because that would be promoting pot.


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<TD align=middle></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Prime Minister Jan Pieter Balkenende, who is seen by many in Holland as "a poodle for George W Bush" due to his support for the US war on Iraq, has repeatedly vowed to eliminate all coffeeshops.

The anti-foreigner proposal came after Donner met with German Interior Minister Otto Schily. Schily chastised Holland, saying its coffeeshop policies encouraged marijuana use. He also complained that Germans can too easily drive across the Dutch border and buy cannabis.

Donner and Schily crafted police state measures to implement drug war policies at Amsterdam's busy Schiphol airport. These include suspending air service between cities defined as "drug routes," setting up a cross-border spy system, and allowing German intelligence agents to infiltrate Holland.

Donner refused Germany's requests to shut down all pot shops, but he offered to set up a coffeeshop passcard/membership system, to keep non-Dutch people from buying ganja. However, this will be difficult for Donner to implement, as Holland has a weak federal government, and coffeeshop policies are controlled by municipal governments. Further, federal political parties who share power with the CDA might not go along with Donner's proposal, which is opposed by the Greens, the Liberals, and some Social Democrats.

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Representatives of the coffeeshop industry responded angrily to Donner's ideas.

Arjan Roskam, president of Greenhouse coffeeshop consortium and a representative of a coffeeshop business union, described Donner as "stupid," and Donner's proposals as "ridiculous and worthless."

Dutch coffeeshop guru Nol Van Schaik, whose partner Maruska was arrested and mistreated by German authorities during a hashish bust several years ago, said Donner was "kissing the ass of the prohibitionist countries whose drug use rate is much higher than Holland's rate."

"Holland is the only country with a sane cannabis policy," said Van Schaik, who is currently in Spain. "Our drug ‘abuse' rates are far lower than countries like the US, France, Germany, and the UK, that try to tell Holland what to do. Instead of caving in, Donner should have told Schily to set up cannabis dispensaries in Germany, so Germans wouldn't cause traffic jams driving to Holland to get weed."

According to Van Schaik, Donner's proposals violate the Dutch constitution and the European Union's human rights laws, by setting up a system that judges people by ethnicity and nationality. He said he will defy any such restrictions by putting a person wearing an "I Buy Weed for Foreigners" t-shirt in his Haarlem coffeeshops.

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Donner is crazy. He is posing unconstatutional plans, which are never going through the senate.
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they will lose tourism , the only reason i wanna go to the dame is to smoke weed , and i know im not alone on that one.
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They would definitely lose most of their tourism and also have a largeincrease in crime. That's why neither Donner nor anyone else will ever actually destroy the cannabis industry in Holland. What would be the point of only selling to Dutch nationals? That would only make a new place for Dutch citizens to act as runners for the tourists. This would only creat more problems in the long run.
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I would be surprised if this is legal on an EU level. I don't
think you could have one set of rules for Dutch citizens and another
citizens of the EU.



By extension if you can't ban EU citizens from buying weed it would be damn hard to ban anyone else.


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"It’s horrible tothink thatthe minds of the free are always going to be governed (in the foreseeable future)by people who are afraid of true freedom, in every sense" - that’s my understanding anyway, especially if <?:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urnchemas-microsoft-comfficemarttags" /><st1:City><st1lace>Holland</st1lace></st1:City> is seriously under threat of becoming a prohibitionist country or close to it. SHOCKING


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i dont see why they would do this, amsterdam is a safe city and its obviously got something to do with weed.
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