SWIM's first post, introduction and experience.

[SickBoy]

Greetings everyone.

This is SWIM's first post here, he did some research first and he find the forum to be very friendly, good company, good fellows, good experiences.
So let me introduce SWIM first.
SWIM is 21, SWIM studies math, SWIM does drugs.
SWIM has been prescribed for ADD meds, he was having a really hard time foccusing for exams, and reading in general, anything that had to do with concentration, was like impossible.
So SWIM was prescribed Ritalin LA, 30mg, one capsule at lunch, just that.
The high is great, like the first 4 hours, are like an extended version of coke, but it doesn't fuck you up so much, and it hits slower. He can not explain the reason of why the high makes SWIM so calm, he's head really and perfectly clear, no speedy whatsoever, after taking the capsule SWIM can just sit for 4 straight hours reading, no recreational feelings or any of that kind. No need to go out, no need to do nothing, everything is smoother, softer, life is great, everything's gonna be spectacular kind of feeling. This helps the mind being calmer, reading a book or studying or doing a paper is not even close to the difficulty SWIM had before.

But there's a problem, SWIM will get there.

SWIM's tryouts on drugs include other stimulants, cocaine, caffeine, cigarettes, and none of them worked nearly as good as Ritalin. Cocaine hits too fast and leaves too fast, caffeine does absolutely nothing, and cigarettes just taste bad, like yuck, stick to the weed.

SWIM also tried another kinds of drugs. SWIM's a regular hash smoker, SWIM tried Salvia once 'coz he wanted to try some hallucinogen and LSDs are too expensive, and Salvia is legal, easier to get. SWIM never did Salvia again or is even considering such a trip, for the next 200 years. Maybe another hallucinogen, definitely not Salvia.

Clonazepam is one SWIM's favorite drugs for sleeping, he doesn't even need to bother to get it, his mom has like a load of Benzos, including K-Pins, Xanax, Valiums...

Okay, so now about my problem. It's as simply as this. Coming down of Ritalin LA, 30mg is pure HELL!
So it's okay, maybe it's only the first capsules 'coz SWIM had absolutely never tried Methylphenidate before, and had no tolerance. But Jesus, SWIM will stop the Ritalin shite if he doesn't find something to ease the comedown, it's horrible.
Right now SWIM had another capsule 'coz he was starting to come off from the one he took about 8 hours ago, and it feels good. But he doesn't really know what to expect when it wears off, SWIM's considering swallowing some Clonazepam although he doesn't know about the interaction, but he obviously will not care about it when the fucking depression, nausea and insomnia gets him.

Right now SWIM sees no other way, he looked throught the forums trying to find a nice comedown recipee, but everything is too complex. He doesn't know if the comedown is this hard because SWIM is not eating at all while high (when this shit hits, even the greatest hamburger seems like climbing the Everest).

So SWIM won't do Ritalin again as it would be 90mg in 16 hours, and he doesn't know when it would end, the solution will have to be facing the comedown, but if it's again that hard, so long for Ritalin.

Anyway, as SWIM's pretty cool right now he thinks he'll just hang out in the rest of the other forums as this seem to be a really nice community for experience interaction.

This was SWIM's first post, he plans to stick around hoping someone will read this with some recipee that can help him.

Gonna watch the Salvia forum now, SWIM's curious about that one.

Thank you everyone for this great forum.

- Simon

[stimulerium]

Hi, and welcome to the forum!

SWIM does a lot of methylphenidate, both Ritalin and Concerta.

About SWIY's comedown, taking a benzodaizepine (e.g. clonazepam) would definitely help. SWIM thinks benzos are the best thing you could take for coming down on a stimulant. Weed or hash could also help, but it could have increased paranoia.

Also, if you're swallowing the pills the high will last longer, but so will the comedown. I usually snort them.

[no-go]

Hello! I am sorry to hear about swiy's reaction to MPH. This is unfortunate, MPH is amazing.

The problem with the post is, are we talking about a crash or a comedown? For the latter, the user would be asleep or otherwise ineffectual in nearly every capacity. For the former, the user may need to maintain basic functions (inter-personal communication, hand-eye coordination, work, school, etc.).

Which is it? The advice depends.

Swim worries about clonazepam. Lately all swim's bad experiences with MPH (the majority last month) were followed by or preceded by clonazepam in a 24 hour period. Doesn't know how it is with other benzo's, but consistently made swim feel awful, like dying. Quit the clonazepam for 2 days and magically MPh works again, and this is the pattern. Interesting...

Coffee is awesome for a regular crash; makes it hardly noticeable for swim, for his first year on MPH. Worked for swim today. If it weren't for the pre-ulcer this caused, swim would do this all the time. Plus apple sauce and oranges have worked in the past. Lots of water. Mid-day crashes are controllable. Wish swim could say more, but doesn't really "crash" a lot.

If coming down just drink alcohol or smoke some weed and nothing else. Kava kava with a beer or two has always worked. Then goto sleep and forget about it. And eat something, protein and b-vitamin heavy, low-fat.

[SickBoy]

Hello everyone,

SWIM has been travelling and been out of his homeland for a couple of weeks.
SWIM would like to thank you for the answers, and SWIM is, after these 2 weeks, a lot better and in better relationship with MPH.

So as SWIstimulerium pointed out, benzos could help the comedown. And they actually do, this is worked for SWIM and he used this method for comedown in the first days on MPH, no matter what the result could be, the depression and insomnia were way too hard to support.
In some time SWIM felt more and more tolerant to the MPH comedown and at this point he doesn't feel almost nothing from the MPH after wearing out. SWIM has probably been taking a Ritalin LA 30mg per day so he thinks it's normal that the tolerance increases.

SWIM also tried other things in the meantime, like smoking some hash in the comedown, and found out it is very good (as expected) for the insomnia. When the insomnia hits, and it does it sometimes even now, smoking a joint with really big drags and inhaling for a bit longer, creates a stronger high but it takes care of the insomnia issue.

To SWIno-go, MPH really is amazing.
SWIM just thinks it took a bit time to get used to the side effects and some of them even disappeared. SWIM has doubts if he should have started with the RitLA 30mg as he did, or should have started with a lower dosage, like an instant release or something around 10mg.

SWIM also thinks that the comedowns are getting lighter because he now tries really hard to drink water and eat something during the MPH effects. Maybe not eating at all during the high may cause a stronger and worse comedown. SWIM felt nausea that definitely disappeared now, and he thinks this part was due to food. The depression also disappeared, SWIM thinks it did for itself, maybe with more time it will even be better.

So SWIM thinks this is all in the Ritalin comedown issue, if something else comes around he'll be sure to post here.

To some people that may be reading this and are having the same trouble, SWIM can only advice what worked for him in the long period. Eat, eat bananas, drink a lot and take Ritalin even if it makes you feel depressed and awful for the first days.
SWIM advices this for people who may be facing some attention problems, Ritalin will really help. Probably the first days may not be rewarding, but it gets really helpful.
For people who are using Ritalin recreationally and feeling totally collapsed in the comedown, his only advice would be to stop doin' it, there are other drugs you can use, try something else.
There's a whole lot of other stuff, the MPH comedown can be really really bad, SWIM wouldn't want to feel that way again.

SWIM is sorry if the post is too long, but whatever, sometimes he just wanderers and this way, if someone else feel a terrible comedown, they'll have some place to start.

So take care, and be responsible.

- Simon

PS.: Also to point out, SWIM is getting some Rubifen 10mg pills now, they are instant release, he'll try it out when he gets it, he thinks it can be better than a long action drug if you just want to read for a couple of hours before going to sleep.