Frequency of Research Chemicals Use

[cyalume]

How often do you use RC's?


if you are a regular user do you leave a recovery period between trips. say only on the weekends or once a month.

Reason I ask is i have found myself using RC's 2-3 times
per week for the last couple weeks (namely 2c-i ; 4-ho-dipt; and
2c-t-2) but im sure it cant be good to use them that often. I was
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[geordie]

2-3 times a week, thats a lot. i only use rc's once every 1-2 months

[E Dubb]

Originally Posted by geordie

2-3 times a week, thats a lot. i only use rc's once every 1-2 months

yeah i did it 2 times this week and fer a second last night i thought i fried my brain.. i deff. wont do it like that ne more 1 time a month is good enought me

Reputation Comments on this post:

read the rules and use SWIM!!!

[Dreeker]

getting 2ci soon but dxm i use on a decent basis, max of 4 times a week, usually only 2 or 1 (sat/sun or fri/sat)


its gr8!

[moeBius]

it's the same with doing mdma, shrooms or any other drug several times a week: your tollerance goes up and the side effect will be strengthened. and these effects can be irreversible...
because of that i take most drugs only up to 6 times a year.
and when it comes to rc's i'd stick to this rule more than ever, because you dont know anything about neurotoxic or long time effects.

[cyalume]

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[Pinkavvy]

not too often anymore ... during the festival season I will usually use an rc a couple times a week ... outside of the festival season it's closer to once a month or so.

[blue jammer]

Usually just on weekends, so once a week.

It's often nicer when you've had a break for a week or two as you look forward to it more and it feels that bit more special when you do it

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great point.. I think so too

[rafsancani]

Personally* I go for once a month
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[dr ACE]

have to say once a month too at the most,just depends on the particular rc some are really heavy body load and dont feel good on regualr basis(if atall),toleranceis reallyshit.its down to personal prefrence,and the size of your wallet! Edited by: dr ACE

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wow good post and you need some good rep!

I've had nothing but problems when tripping more than a few times a
year (and it's tempting, I know). It distorts your reality, though, and
makes it harder to deal with the people and events in your real life --
which is, in the end, your REAL LIFE.



Last year I used RC's once a week, almost all year. It was insane. All
kindsa bad shit happened to me. I'm still in psychotherapy trying to
figure it out. This year I'm going to trip 3-4 times max, all year. If
that.

[cyalume]

oh it is super tempting. Due to the nature of how the RC trade
works one finds themselves with ~55 doses of a given chemical so
its hard to not say "well im bored this weekend.. oh ok i have this RC
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[dr ACE]

and they degrade with age so if their not stored right your as well to use them before they lose potency,not saying you should use them more than afew times monthly at most

[greenman420]

^^ Depends on how you store them and what chemical it is..... Some of them don't degrade that fast at all..... I havn'et heard of any of the 2C's degrading at all yet and they've been on the market for years...

[GDxCAT]

i find tripping on anything more than 1 time a month to be a bit excessive.

i like to spread my trips out 1-2months. although ofcourse there are
times when i will trip every weekend or even more. But those times are
few and far apart.

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USE SWIM!!

[msumegi]

For me the RC's go as quickly as yours. I have used RC's as often as 4 times a week with no problems other that lack of sleep. If I have a bag not a free day will pass that I don't use, and if that means 3 or four days with no real recovery time then so be it. I have had no problem with cronic use.

[GDxCAT]

you might not have a problem now but you might in the future.

these are unresearched chemicals and you may be doing more harm than you realize.

other than that psychedelic drugs are not meant to be abused. they are sacraments.

[yajw]

For myself it's all about the timimg and situation. I still have
compounds in the lockbox that haven't been experimented with. I can say
that these items maybe see and experiment once to every other month. I
generally find myself inquisitive, but I like to savor the experiment
and allow some time to notice any changes or symptoms differerent from
my baseline. Personally I don't see any use if I use them more often,
since I wouldn't be able to appreciae the differences with each one.



But as long as these are kept like all other chemicals, they should last for some years. Air and light are the enemies.

[ThirdEyeFloond]

I usually trip once or twice a month and only in the weekend because I prefer not having having too many scheduled plans the following day.
IMHO if its a good deep heavy trip it takes some time to fully integrate and appreciate the experience, so I see no benefits in doing it more often. Though when I come across a new substance that I like, I have a tendency to use it a bit more frequent untill I feel somewhat familiar with it.

[Triple7]

All together I tripped ~100 times during 7 years... and now since few
months I do it about 1-2 times a week.. closer to 1... sometimes I am
tempted to take much more because I am very bored looner.. on the other
hand.. i do not take it more frequent because of wrong settings.

[pancho]

when i first started wit 2c-i i bindged like i always do on something fun. same wit rolls, i found myself doin them day after day for acouple weeks

[Nagognog2]

I
note someone stating that long-term storage of these molecules is best
done by omitting air and light. There is one other factor that I
suggest: Heat. I store all of my more sensitive chems in a freezer and
well sealed.



As regards how often would/should one take the Divine Toad out for a
ride, I find it depends on whether it's a new molecule or not. I like
to take the ones I've little or no experience with perhaps every week
or three until I feel I am fully familiar with same. Then I might take
such again once or twice a year. That's the way it is for me now. But
back yonder when I was a wild teenager/young adult...hahahaha!!

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[psy-marshal]

I usually only trip once every two to three months. I just don´t have the time to do it more often or I would. But clearing a whole day when you only have two weekend days a week can often be logistically tough.

Personally, I don´t have a great deal of concern about long-term use of these things. With all the people who have been perma-binging on them for years now, I just think there would be more evidence to suggest that it was doing some damage if it actually was - apart from the odd random report you see about thyroid problems or strange lumps appearing in the neck.

As far as a note on degradation, I found a dose of 2ct2 I got months ago - like July - before I went on holidays, but I never took it. It travelled with me wrapped in a little piece of paper in my pocket/wallet under the hot sun for two months, then sat at room temperature for a further 6, and it was still at full potency when I took it on Sunday.

5-meo-dipt also didn´t degrade when stored in the open (albeit sealed) for almost 2 years!

[dmax]

I found that the 4ho-dipt, 4ho-det, 4ace-dipt and 4ace-det tended to
degrade if not stored properly. Phenethylamines tend to be more
stable than tryptamines. Mushrooms (4ho-dmt) degrade with heat,
as does LSD.



In terms of the original topic, I tend to use rc's less than once a
month, although when I first discovered them it was much more than
that. You eventually get tired if them, and I found the more I
did, the more the side effects overwhelmed the positive aspects
(nausea, body load, feeling of fatigue afterward were more pronounced,
and the trips were less fun).

[cpu9809]

i was doing them like 3 times a week (2c-i, 2c-e, 5meoamt, 4hodipt) but
now it's down to like 3 times a month or so, they arn't called research
chemcs for no reason, i have permenete tracers and i'm sure other
things, makes life more interesting i say.