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Old 15-02-2008, 17:08
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Meth systhesis what go wrong???

I know a guy that tried to make meth, with iodine/ red phouphorus method,he think everything worked ok, maybe the wheight of ingredients were not very accurate.
But he obtain done a nice reflux, it turned into that honey looking solution with a old fish smell at the end, he said, the basifing with NaOH turn the honey into a milky solution, extraction with NP solvent (ethyl ether used), then turned into a hcl salt by adding water with a coupple of drops of HCl, after the evaporation of that water he get a white crytaline powder with a bitter taste.

But he think that is not meth, he said that he snorted and smoked it, and never get high, not even a little bit. I think that after all that work he just make the same sh** from the beguinning, pseudoephedrine.

What possible go wrong???

in here you can find the process, speeded up. http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1090195/homemade_meth/
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Old 16-02-2008, 08:25
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Re: Meth systhesis what go wrong???

well SWILW need moer info for him to be able to tell you whats up
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ok well if the ratios where off maybee not enough HI was made....
or it wasnt relufluxed loong enough
what where the ratios...what was the temperature?
all this i need in order to establish at least an attempt to help you
SWILW thinks from what he can see so far is you ended up with sudo and iodo intermediates
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Re: Meth systhesis what go wrong???

haha in that video there using candles
SWILW highly doubts that if that exact method was used no meth was produced
ever hear of a hotplate??
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Re: Meth systhesis what go wrong???

The Guy doesn't have precise measurements, but was this:
PE - +\- 1.2g - extracted from 20pills with 60mg of PE
I2 - +\- 2 or 2.5g - in teory should be 3.9g (60ml of iodine tincture at 6.5% of I2) but with losses it's +\- 2.5g
RP - it's hard to tell extracted from 5 matchbox pads, +\- half of I2 volume
Temperature - done in iol bath withthe candles LOL, the solution was boiling so it should be +\- 95-100º celcius

About the candle thing the Guy done it really really a homemade production lool, so it's all improvised.

thanks for SWILW's time
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Re: Meth systhesis what go wrong???

if the correct amount wasnt added the HI made wasnt concentrated enough to reduce anything
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Re: Meth systhesis what go wrong???

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I know a guy that tried to make meth, with iodine/ red phouphorus method,he think everything worked ok, maybe the wheight of ingredients were not very accurate.
But he obtain done a nice reflux, it turned into that honey looking solution with a old fish smell at the end, he said, the basifing with NaOH turn the honey into a milky solution, extraction with NP solvent (ethyl ether used), then turned into a hcl salt by adding water with a coupple of drops of HCl, after the evaporation of that water he get a white crytaline powder with a bitter taste.

But he think that is not meth, he said that he snorted and smoked it, and never get high, not even a little bit. I think that after all that work he just make the same sh** from the beguinning, pseudoephedrine.

What possible go wrong???

in here you can find the process, speeded up. http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1090195/homemade_meth/



Just like you said the end product is basically un reacted sudo . When Swim first started learning to cook this is the same problem he had- looked,smelled and taste like it but didnt get swim high .
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Re: Meth systhesis what go wrong???

swiy know there is a much easier method for reducing psuedoephedrine into Methamphetamine. swim knows and has done both rp/I and NH3/Li and swim prefers this route much faster and easier all around. http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26193
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Re: Meth systhesis what go wrong???

Precision should bee a number one priority with these kinds of things, along with safety. A good scale is pretty much a necessity because if you don't have the right ratios, you could really fuck things up, including yourself.

Scales aren't that expensive.
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Re: Meth systhesis what go wrong???

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swiy know there is a much easier method for reducing psuedoephedrine into Methamphetamine. swim knows and has done both rp/I and NH3/Li and swim prefers this route much faster and easier all around. http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26193
yes that must be true for some but not every one can get a hold of anny
sure it can be made from feralizer
but the smell is what will get the dreamer caugth
unless SWIY lives in a farm type enviroment
you good other wise in a city enviroment
it will be a sure bust
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Re: Meth systhesis what go wrong???

the guy know that is faster, but it's harder to obtain the reagents and is a lot dangerous. the guy wants to make meth not a big BUM in his house, but thanks anyway.
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