pure thc?

[xctico]

Getting the DTHC[delta theta hidro cannabinol] out of weed. Can it be achieve through an acid/base process?

I tried once with benzine and alcohol but the ending product was a
black oil that smelled like gas, so I didn't risk it [nor thought about
using a guinea pig], I wasn't really sure wether I had THC or
some chemical that was added to the weed for the drying and compacting
process [like amonia].

[AdrenalineJunki]

If you can get keif, (THC crystals from weed) or honey oil, i THINK thats as pure as you can get

[xctico]

how does the process go?

[Chaote]

keef im pretty sure you just take crystal, i get it by putting it in a film canister and shaking alot then u have a ring a crystal and repeat over and over then put it in a plastic bag and run under hot water to bond it and tada u have slow burnin keef, i still prefer bud to it but each to there own

[sunyata]

There are recipes for making high-grade THC oil with butane(lighter gas) and ether or alchol another place in this forum, just look and you'll find it. It's really simple and effective.

[xctico]

thnx sunyata, that's the kind of info I was lookin for.

[fiftyseven]

The most pure product I have made was and oil useing the butane method, the product was yellow and very clear. I smoked it in a brand-new clean crack pipe that i made for the purpose of smoking oils. The high is diffrent, it comes on a bit quicker and can be quite heavy. I smoked a bit the size of a match head and was very stoned. that was at a time when i was smoking about 3 grams a day, and i thought that my tolarance had gotten so high that i could not get stoned anymore. You can smoke plenty in one hit. i smoked 6 or 7 biggish hits in one sitting durring the after-noon, and there is a huge chunk of time missing from that day. i woke up on the couch at 2am when my dad was putting a blanket on me. It's good stuff, so i started making all my ganja into butane oil. and after that i literaly could not get high by smoking the plant material anymore. it was about 6 months of very little THC use befor i could get stoned again. the butane oil is easy to make, do some reserch on the web, the process is very simple, all you really need to do is push the liquid butane through your finly broken up ganja, and filter. and then let the butane evaporate, and then cook it alittle bit to drive off the excess butane, (you deffinatly dont want to be smoking butane) BTW you wont get pure THC unless you do some serious chemistry, this method only extracts the butane soluble plant oils, mostly the cannibinoids, the great thing is that it does not extract the chrloform (sp) i also like the ice hash method, but the butane wins in my book because it only takes about 10min to make and you can do it with as little weed as you want to smoke. its more then possible to take a whole gram or more in one or two hits.

[purplehaze]

I dunno if your wantin to do this to get high or not but if u have any metal smoking pipes you can hold a lighter to them and black resin i call it comes out just let it land in a plate or somethin and it will harden into a little raindrop like deal and throw it ontop of some weed in a glass pipe and it will do a pretty good job but it makes me cough really bad and i smoke alot to and i cough like a newbie when i do it.

[xctico]

Thnx for all the feedback mates, I've found a lot of aditional info
from the ideas you told me. Mostly for the Butane process. I'm gonna be
working it this weekend, but I'm also adding an extra step for refining
the oil with isopropanol, to take away it's photosensitiviti, and
further purify it. I understad that I could yield around 70% thc.







Purplehaze. Thnx for the tip. I've done that before, but it's a rather
impure process, you don't get as clean a product as honey oil.

Most of the stuff you're smoking is the same canceriginous found in
weed, that's what I want to avoid. Plus, with the butane process you
spend your weed at a much slower rate, more bang for the buck.

[The Boss]

Guys, why does everyone insist on adding chemicals to get a better high? If you want to get really high smoke more weed... If you dont want all the chemicals involved then collect the trichomes and make hash... Adding chemicals is never good for the simple fact no matter what the process some of the chemicals are left behind and eventually with enough use will cause you more problems then they are worth.

Reputation Comments on this post:

uneducated statement. butane is a solvent used to extract thc, and butane evaporates away at room temperature, no residu...

[fiftyseven]

acctualy with a proper chemical extraction you are smoking fewer chemicals(thats why certain people do it), as well as much less plant material. what if you CANT smoke enough weed to get high, or can only get shitty weed and need to concentrait it to stay high. Staying high all day every day is deffinatly a priority of somepeople. If you are good about how you do your work, nothing of significance will be left behind. BTW ever toke some bubble, that is made with ice-water (ice water is a chemical) and will blow any veteran pot-head out of the water.

[xctico]

Originally Posted by fiftyseven

(ice water is a chemical)

Do you know what the proper chemical name for ice water is?

[cwatt]

THe best way to get keef is to get some danky nugs, grind them up finely in a grinder. BY a grinder with a screen already in it or make a little box with a screen. Shake the weed ontop of th screen and under the screen keef will fall out. but this takes alot of weed to get alot of keef.

[xctico]

Boss. Both isopropanol and butane evaporate at room temperature, so
there's no rsk of any of those being left behind on the oil. Also, as
fiftyseven said, the idea is actually to remove chemicals and plant
matter that are no good at getting you high besides being cancerigenous
in some cases.

So the whole deal is about purifying the thc source. up to 70%

[The Boss]

I wasnt saying adding chemicals to the weed then smoking it right away im saying the use of chemicals to get something else. To the guy who said what if you cant smoke enough weed to get high? Then quit for a week and start up again, the high will be almost the same as the first time you smoked, if you cant do that you shouldnt be smoking in my opinion but to each thier own i suspose.

[xctico]

Boss, the problem is that when you smoke weed, you're also smoking a bunch of chemicals that are no good [cancerigenous]

[Powder_Reality]

Boss, you seem to be really down on chemicals. Think for a second; why does cannabis produce a psychoactive effect in the first place? Because it contains psychoactive CHEMICALS called cannabinoids. In fact, the entire world is made up of chemical compounds and elements.

But I think what you're trying to say is that extracting thc with solvents will leave dangerous chemicals behind in the final product; correct?

Well, this is true to an extent. Using impure solvents such as cheap camping butane can leave residues and impurites in the final product. However, using pure and high quality solvents that are free of impurities should produce a clean final product. The boiling point of the specific solvent used is also a factor. Butane has a very low boiling point and will completely evaporate form the final product within minutes. However, alcohol has a higher boiling point and will take longer to completely evaporate.

So yes, if done improperly, extracted THC can contain impurites that may be harmful to the user. But if done properly with clean equipment, the extracted THC will be clean and produce less carcinogens and tars when smoked than raw plant material.

[Pinkavvy]

When you use butane to extract, you are not "adding chemicals" you are using a solvent to extract the active cannabanoids out of the plant material. butane evaporates at room temperature and leaves no residue. (even if you are impatent and dont let it evoperate fully, it's the gas burning solvent that is in your lighter flame when you hit your bong.)

[allyourbase]

the purest THC swim has ever extracted was done funnily enough by re-X-talizing from isopropyl alchohol. its not very soluable in isopropyl alchohol but it is enough for something this simple. the material was dried, then repeatedly frozen and thawed to break down the membranes and cell walls. then soaked in 70% isopropyl alchohol for two weeks. before straining it was heated to about 150 f. it was then put under a fume hood for about two days until there was very little if any of the alchohol left. by this time straight yellow glassy crystals had already formed at the bottom, it was then refrigerated for about 3 hours to get it just below room temperature. the crystals were taken out with tweazers and dried. too flammable to smoke in a regular bowl but did wonders when vaped in an oiler.

[Burden]

I can't believe none of you has heard about BUDDER!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budder and http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/3589.html

[Powder_Reality]

Budder is essentially the same thing that we are talking about here. It is nothing more than a cannabis extract made using solvents. Apparently the person who originally started making this product (dubbed the "Budder King") has a very specific way to make the extract, and keeps the process quite secret. Or maybe he's already leaked the recipe out, SWIM hasn't been keeping track. Either way, SWIM has read that he uses alcohol as his solvent.

SWIM has also heard of butane extracts being passed off as budder, so he really isn't sure what it is that distinguishes the original budder from other extracts.

[Pinkavvy]

Common 'budder' found is butane extracted oil then 'whipped' to oxidate, and frozen. Sometimes chilled with alcohol for recrystalization.

[tone3721]

Swiy could take the oil out to budder pretty easily. In swits opinion, bubblebags work the best. Nothing is better than full melt bubble hash. All it takes are the bags, buckets, and ice water. Iso, cold water extraction, yields the best tasting hash in the world! Butane works great...but water is by far the best. Bubblebags are available online.. swiy will have to look swiyourself since sources are not allowed.

ps: the 73 micron screen usually yields the full melt