2 questions - just a little bit? and - cooldown question

[angryteabag]

Q1>

What happens if you take a little bit of MDMA?

like if SWIM cuts a pill into quarters and take a quarter will SWIM roll just as much as SWIM would on a whole pill but for a shorter time? and would SWIM have just as long a cool down?

Q2>

Do you get a cool down instantly?

If you take a hit of XTC then it wears off are you normally sleeping or do you start to feel the cool down hit you like a tropical storm (slow at first then like holy shit)?

[Lettish]

Q1 - Swiy probably won't feel anything. A quarter of a pill is such a low dose that Swiy won't even roll. If Swiy has had MDMA before Swiy might get a tiny buzz of alertness, but this will most likely be placebo. 1/4 pill is a waste of MDMA.

Q2 - Depending on dose, the ecstasy trip will last something like 2 - 6 hours. Whether Swiy can sleep or not straight after is different for everyone. Swim can sleep no problem whereas others can be awake all night. This can depend on the contents of the pill, as some may contain caffeine or amphetamines. Swiy should research into the use of 5-HTP after rolling, which can help with sleeping. As for how the comedown happens, for Swim it is very gradual as the "ecstasy" slowly wears off during the course of the roll.

[angryteabag]

awsome thanx

whats the minimum mdma swiy has noticed has a considerable effect?

Swim and swims friend want to just taste mdma but without a full blown cool down (school gets in the way of a 2 day cool down)

[Lettish]

Sorry but in Swim's opinion, to experience ecstasy properly Swiy has to take a reasonable dose. Just tweaking on the edges of it is such a waste. Swim highly recommends taking between 80-120mg. One pill is said to contain approximately these values (but do not take that seriously as all pills are different, some are adulterated, etc). If Swiy is worried about contents of pills, invest in a testing kit (search the forum).

Seriously though, the comedown is not as bad as Swiy thinks. My Swim actually feels nice and contempt after rolling. An ecstasy comedown is in no way comparable to an alcohol hangover. Swim does not feel sick, Swim doesn't have a headache, Swim doesn't feel dirty and dehydrated (if Swiy drinks water during rolling), it's actually not a bad thing.

To lessen the comedown if Swiy is that worried about it, there are a few things you can do. If Swiy is going to be dancing heavily, make sure Swiy drinks approx 500ml of water per hour. If not, cut that in half. Do not overhydrate, do not drink pint after pint. After rolling eat some bananas and have a nice hearty and healthy breakfast. As mentioned before look into 5-HTP (search the forum).

But seriously, please do not waste MDMA by only having a very small dose. It just isn't worth it. Swiy has to experience it properly and trust Swim, it's worth it.

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Nice answers for the posters questions, thanks for being so kind.

[experimenter]

A persons first E experience will almost surely be one of the best. It would be a waste if SWIY took a very small dose. SWIM would never suggest taking less than a single dose the first time. SWIM has never met anyone who hasn't enjoyed taking E.

As stated before the "cool down" period isn't all that bad, unless one has high tolerance and needs to take a high does (which you won't) a day or even less, is all that should be needed to feel 100% better. Enjoy!

[RaverHippie]

Comedowns are generally rare from MDMA, even moreso for first-time users who just take a reasonable amount. I heard somewhere that a threshhold dose of MDMA to be 40mg. One pill will be enough if the pill is of good quality to ensure a euphoric experiences.

This "cool down" period that you described is pretty fictitious. The likely after effects of someone taking ecstasy for their first time, after falling asleep once the effects have worn off, are a changed outlook on life, happy afterglow, childlike wonder about everyday things. These are more of the symptoms that happen after ecstasy use. If SWIY is really worried about any possible negative comedown symptoms such as depression which would surface about 3 days later, SWIY should take 5HTP once after SWIY is done with the E before you go to bed that night/morning. Then take it daily for the next two days upon waking up. This will potentiate the happy afterglow and eliminate all negative effects.*

*This claim is based on the anecdotal evidence shown by SWIM and SWIM's friends. Every time someone SWIM knows a friend took ecstasy, SWIM supplies with the 3 5HTP pills and every time (20+ instances) the user reported increased afterglow and euphoria following ecstasy use, and there were no instances of depression following the use of ecstasy and 5htp in this manner.

[Lettish]

The only problem Swim has with 5-HTP is that it makes him feel a little sick sometimes, especially at high doses. It makes his stomach feel a bit uneasy, but it's worth it.

[Silentscream]

Originally Posted by Lettish

The only problem Swim has with 5-HTP is that it makes him feel a little sick sometimes, especially at high doses. It makes his stomach feel a bit uneasy, but it's worth it.

Swim also finds this a problem. The trick is to take your 5HTP before you hit the sheets, so you sleep through the nauseating effects, waking up fresh and fine!

[Lettish]

Yes, Swim agrees. When Swim first got hold of 5-HTP he put himself on a 150mg/day course for two weeks to test out pre-loading. At the end of the two weeks he reported feeling generally happier and was sleeping very well, but after taking the morning and daytime dose, he felt slightly nauscious. Oh and he says the pre-loading didn't work! Ha.

[RaverHippie]

Yeah, I've never seen an increase in effect from pre-loading 5HTP. But where it counts was 100mg at the end of SWIM's roll, then 100 mg upon waking up, then 100 mg next morning. This would increase the happy after-effects of using ecstasy for SWIM and for every time this has been repeated, there have been no depression-like symptoms for any test subject

I've never experience nausea accompanying the 5HTP though.

[Lettish]

Pre-loading did not work for Swim. He actually feels that it lessened the roll compared to his friends who dosed the same and usually have same effects. However yes it helped a lot afterwards.

Swim now believes in 5-HTP only post-consumption of MDMA or ecstasy.