how rare is it to get pure MDMA?

[ihavequestions]

SWIM would like to try MDMA one day but probably only once or twice. he doesnt have to try it more than that because SWIM his a REALY good sense of self control.

however swin doesnt want sketchy rave ecstasy, if he is gonna try it he wants to do the real thing, not MDA or MDE.

also just out of curiousity, what are the chances that SWIM will experience a life changing experience and change of view of the world?

[podge]

Pure MDMA all depends on where you live and who you know. For the general public its quite rare.

There are no set odds that can accurately predicts if swiy will have a life changing experience. Only experience will answer that for swiy.

Personally swim learned little from MDMA in contrast to what other psychedelics thought him. For swim the main benefit of MDMA was to feel for the first time what it was like to be unquestionably happy for a couple of hours - swim had never realised life could be experienced like that. But with time and experience his MDMA experiences have just became devalued - it feels great but its not a great teacher like natural entheogens.

Swim thinks man has done well with his chemical creations - but can never compare to what the planet has offered us for thousands of years. The one man made substance which swim has extreme respect for is Ketamine. But as Shulgin said - there is probably a plant out there somewhere with very similar effects to Ketamine which we just havent discovered yet. And swim highly suspects if it does, it will easily trump Ket .

Just swims personal thoughts - everyone is different.

[RaverHippie]

Quality pills are easy to find, pure mdma "molly" can be harder to find. If you are at all into the rave scene, this is a great place to find. Everyone I've come across are honest about the quality of the pills and want you to have a good time.

[OzzBozz]

Originally Posted by RaverHippie

Quality pills are easy to find, pure mdma "molly" can be harder to find. If you are at all into the rave scene, this is a great place to find. Everyone I've come across are honest about the quality of the pills and want you to have a good time.

SWIM agrees for the most part.

Good rolls flood the rave scene.

just make sure to not buy SWIY's drugs at a rave...

[RaverHippie]

Originally Posted by OzzBozz

SWIM agrees for the most part.

Good rolls flood the rave scene.

just make sure to not buy SWIY's drugs at a rave...

I disagree, after dancing a night with someone or a group of people they tend to give pretty solid info about what they are on,selling, or know of and will gladly point you to where you can get decent shit.

It kind of makes SWIM biased since he is on something he got from a rave right now and it turned out exactly what his acquaintances said it would be.

[BrainMelt]

Originally Posted by RaverHippie

I disagree, after dancing a night with someone or a group of people they tend to give pretty solid info about what they are on,selling, or know of and will gladly point you to where you can get decent shit.

It kind of makes SWIM biased since he is on something he got from a rave right now and it turned out exactly what his acquaintances said it would be.

Swim has been doing this for the past year and has never bought crappy pills at a club. Most people you meet there and talk to for a little while will be willing to help you out and want you to have a good time, so they aren't gonna hook you up with bunk pills.

[fnord]

generally if your buying just 1 or 2 doses your not close enough to the top or the chain-of-drugs to find pure mdma,theres alot of hands this has passed threw and someone is sure to have cut it.

Solution: get a test kit and look into purifying from pills.

[yaba]

Originally Posted by ihavequestions

SWIM would like to try MDMA one day but probably only once or twice. he doesnt have to try it more than that because SWIM his a REALY good sense of self control.

however swin doesnt want sketchy rave ecstasy, if he is gonna try it he wants to do the real thing, not MDA or MDE.

also just out of curiousity, what are the chances that SWIM will experience a life changing experience and change of view of the world?

When swim was living in Amsterdam he could get pure mdma pouder in any quantity. But he thinks in America pills would be more easy to get. Swiy could always buy lets say 10 pills and send 1 or 2 for testing. If swiy buys all at the same time from the same person, Then they are more then likely from the same batch.

Not advicing to take 8-9 pills. Its just an example could always get 2-3 pills and get 1 tested.

[SmokeNmirrors]

Swim would say pretty rare good X is one thing but pure mdma is hard to come by least where swim lives.

[Mr. Giraffe]

The chances of getting anything pure from criminals is pretty low. If you have access to a chemist, you can enjoy pure stuff but I suspect that, the more people who handle a drug, the less pure it's gonna be by the time it reaches you.

[Psych0naut]

Originally Posted by Mr. Giraffe

The chances of getting anything pure from criminals is pretty low. If you have access to a chemist, you can enjoy pure stuff but I suspect that, the more people who handle a drug, the less pure it's gonna be by the time it reaches you.

Not in the Netherlands fortunenately They are probaply of pretty similar quality in Belgium as well, and the part of Germany along the Dutch border will probaply have high quality pills too. MDMA crystals aren't very common in the Netherlands though, but that's just because our pills are of such high quality that most people don't find it necesarry to buy MDMA crystals. If you have pills that contain well over 100mg up to 200mg with no adulterants and for practically no money, why buy MDMA crystals really?

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[radiometer]

Originally Posted by Psych0naut

If you have pills that contain well over 100mg up to 200mg with no adulterants and for practically no money, why buy MDMA crystals really?

So that one can dose more precisely.

[Psych0naut]

Originally Posted by radiometer

So that one can dose more precisely.

The pills here in the Netherlands often already contain such large amounts of MDMA, that their equal dose worth of MDMA crystals could just as well be eyeballed. I disadvice eyeballing even MDMA, even though it isn't that potent, but what I generally refer to is that the situation regarding pills and MDMA in the Netherlands is different from the rest of the world.

[Silentscream]

Here in the UK, London anyway, SWIM is finding that MDMA crystal is becoming more and more available.. probably because pills are becoming less and less popular as they are being filled with more and more bunk

[Retro]

SWIM says that it has never been a problem getting hold of Pure Crystal MDMA for him in the UK. He says its been like that for a few years now. Almost every time he says it comes in white solid crystal or sometimes with a slight tan colour.

[rob_uk]

Swim finds it hard to find pure MDMA, this could be something to do with him being young. So from my friends perspective pure MDMA is rare.

[radiometer]

OK. All I'm saying is that my buddy Eddie, for one, is much more interested in taking a known dose of MDMA. There is a notable difference in the character of a 100mg v. a 125mg dose of MDMA. He also prefers that his boosters be carefully weighed.

In terms of relative safety, eyeballing MDMA is no big deal, but obviously for most users tablet form is far more convenient.

[adzket]

swim has noticed a reserchance of they avalibility of mdma in london the last time swims remembers it being so easy to get was in about 98-2000 generaly by the 1/4 gram in clubs then nothing for many yrs as drug use paterns changed and k became a dance floor favorate. however now swim can get it from grams or 1/2's in club's or grams to 1/4 oz outside a club if swim is going out for a weekend or to a festival they normaly get an 1/8 th its more cost effective than buying the same amount of pills. though swim will always take a few pills to to get that ruch of comming up that they dont get with pure mandy.

[HoldYourColour]

swim found mdma crystal for sale inside london clubs but generally pills are easier obviously, but as ever the quantities will be questionable, but if its in your hand you can at least judge if its going to do the trick. its out there..

[Stuck]

SWIM loves it when people say "yeah, I've done pure mdma dude. you don't know anything".

Unless SWIY is synthesizing it SWIY's self, SWIY will NEVER know what SWIY is taking. He might be told its pure mdma, but the truth is he'll never know.

[yaba]

Originally Posted by Stuck

SWIM loves it when people say "yeah, I've done pure mdma dude. you don't know anything".

Unless SWIY is synthesizing it SWIY's self, SWIY will NEVER know what SWIY is taking. He might be told its pure mdma, but the truth is he'll never know.

It depends on who swiy knows and where he lives. True swims job he met some intresting friends when, He was living in Amsterdam. And could get pure mdma..

His friend jused to get an oil called PMK5 (or thats what he called it)
And had students to turn it in mdma hydro, He then brings it to a legal lab for testing. The results are 83% sometimes 84% then he makse pills out of the pouder. (In a house with an attached soundproof garage.)

Most xtc pills come from the Netherlands, So there is mdma.

If someone knows the right people someone could know exactly what he is taking. Otherwise drugs couldn't excist !

But swim knows what swiy means, Lots of people will claim they had pure mdma even when its bought on the street coner. lol

[Psych0naut]

PMK stands for Piperonyl Methyl Ketone, the precursor used in the final step of the MDMA synthesis. If one has PMK, a reductive amination with Al/Hg and nitromethane or methylamine will reduce it to MDMA. This can then be extracted, turned into the HCl salt and recrystalised to yield pure, clean MDMA. And indeed, he large part of the worlds supply of pills and MDMA are made in the Netherlands. Pure MDMA crystals are relatively common here in the Netherlands, if you know the people who are into it.

[sweetsweetmary]

sWIM don't know about anyone else, but the best pills are never pure MDMA. SWIM have had pure MDMA, and it is relaxing, but give that shit a little kick and you have something special. Sure it's not good for SWIY, but if sWIY has willpower and doesn't mind a hangover, there are some ecstacy pills on the market that will completely knock SWIY's socks off, and sure there is ecstacy in them, but they have other ingredients to make it better.

[Psych0naut]

Originally Posted by sweetsweetmary

sWIM don't know about anyone else, but the best pills are never pure MDMA. SWIM have had pure MDMA, and it is relaxing, but give that shit a little kick and you have something special. Sure it's not good for SWIY, but if sWIY has willpower and doesn't mind a hangover, there are some ecstacy pills on the market that will completely knock SWIY's socks off, and sure there is ecstacy in them, but they have other ingredients to make it better.

When used in normal doses, SWIM could always sleep after using MDMA, even a few hours after intake. That's because he always used pure MDMA, either in pills, or as crystals. When he used amphetamine, even in tiny doses, he couldn't sleep for the next 12 hours. SWIM is very prone to insomnia, but he could always sleep if he used MDMA in "normal" dose(read, 80mg or so, as SWIM is pretty lightweight, if he used a few hundred mg he couldn't sleep unless he used plenty of benzo's, but that's a very unwise thing to do)

[yaba]

Originally Posted by Psych0naut

When used in normal doses, SWIM could always sleep after using MDMA, even a few hours after intake. That's because he always used pure MDMA, either in pills, or as crystals. When he used amphetamine, even in tiny doses, he couldn't sleep for the next 12 hours. SWIM is very prone to insomnia, but he could always sleep if he used MDMA in "normal" dose(read, 80mg or so, as SWIM is pretty lightweight, if he used a few hundred mg he couldn't sleep unless he used plenty of benzo's, but that's a very unwise thing to do)

Swim can always sleep on mdma, it even makes him tyred sometimes.