just a taste?

[angryteabag]

SWIM wants to try xtc but its all crap and laced with anything in his country

SWIM and his friend want to try something with similar effects, just something make us feel all happy nd stuff... something like 5-htp but actually making THEM happy while taking it not sleepy

any ideas (and no we cant try only a little xtc cuz half the time its just meth or detergent)

[moda00]

Haven't tried this personally, but swiy could perhaps look for more info on methylone or mephedrone? Seems like the closest possible alternative, and much more likely to be pure if purchased from a reliable source than the "ecstasy" tablets going around in many countries. Best of luck.

Here are some threads you may want to check out.

This one talks about substances which may be similar to MDMA and what combinations are not advisable (ie. adding an additional stimulant to these drugs is not likely to improve effect or make the experience closer to MDMA, and could be dangerous):
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...ight=methylone

This one discussed research chems that mimic MDA and MDMA:
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44550

Also, may want to edit the title of your post to be a bit more specific about the content ("Chemicals similar to MDMA" or "Alternatives to impure street ecstasy" etc.) or ask a moderator to merge with a similar thread if you feel it appropriate.

And edit the fifth word in the last line of the post Welcome to DF and hope this helps!!

EDIT: Swim just remembered a new member cannot edit their posts until reaching silver membership. One needs five positive reputation points to gain this status- positive rep is gained by posting useful and thorough information, knowing and following the rules, and contributing to discussion through translation, book reviews, posting links, helping other members, etc. (negative rep can be caused by flaming, one word posts, misleading or incorrect information, failing to follow rules, etc.) Sorry for any confusion. But you can always ask a mod to do those two things- edit for swim in the last sentence and change post title, using the PM function or the report post button. Again sorry for any confusion.

[angryteabag]

what if SWIM takes a little bit of mdma?

whats the difference between mda and mdma?

how bad is the cooldown from mdma and how does it differ to mda?

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use the search engine to find some of this info.. thank you!!

[moda00]

Originally Posted by angryteabag

what if SWIM takes a little bit of mdma?

whats the difference between mda and mdma?

how bad is the cooldown from mdma and how does it differ to mda?

Here is info on ecstasy testing kits. Rather than try a small amount of a pill to make sure it is mdma (which may be hard to determine from a tiny dose) one may want to invest in a kit and then just test a tiny chunk of the pill.. then if it is good, one can just eat half to the whole thing. Also, one can test one pill before s/he and his/her friends invest in more.

A general overview of testing kits: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma...ing_kits.shtml

A thread about testing ecstasy tablets using different kits and in different geographic regions:
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44572

Another resource is to look up pills of the type/design going around on a testing site, and/or search by one's geographic region: http://www.ecstasydata.org/

As for MDMA vs. MDA, swim doesn't know much about this, and has only ever done MDMA (and even then, not pure molly, just street tablets) From some of the posts she's read, MDMA tends to be unique in its strong empathogenic/"loving" effects and many users judge MDA to be less enjoyable, or harsher, more "stimulating," or more "psychedelic."

Here are Erowid vaults and Drugs-Forum threads on the substances:

MDMA FAQ: http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_faq.shtml

MDA Vault:
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mda/mda.shtml

MDMA vs. MDA thread on DF:
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12914

and here:
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=46409

The search engine is a good tool on here..
Erowid.org also has some great information.