Drug info - First Time trying Coke

[samgriffin]

Background Info: SWIM has smoked pot countless times... Done shrooms twice (there coming around soon!!!)... Special K twice...Percocets a few times...and done Hydromorphone quite a few times... He has also tried lorazepam but gotten nothing from it (First time 1 gram oral, second 2 grams insufflation, third 3 grams oral... yet nothing).... He is 16 and is a bit above average size for his age being 5'11" 170lbs

First time smoking pot and doing shrooms was with his friend of quite along time and it was planned and such... enjoyed it very much and continued on... SWIM went on to try Special K on his own as well as Perks and hydromorph (he just did them downstairs and listened to pink floyd)

His experimentation buddy has made it clear he is staying away from chems and SWIM respects that as he's seen many people go down the wrong road.

SWIM has several friends that did coke and really only one or two that still does it (The rest had some bad run-ins with coke and a few with crack) and will probably talk to him maybe score a gram and split it for a night...

What he is wondering is what is the best situation to be in and any precautions to take before doing said cocaine... Some people have said hard liquor and weed are almost mandatory for the comedown

Sorry for it being so long but i wanna make sure I do it right and have a good time as I'd like to only do it once and stay away maybe again in the future but not get to into it...

[epote]

look, cocaine is a fun experience. It doesnt make you nor smarter neither wiser though it might feel that way.

Treat it as such, have some boundaries. Cocaine for some people can be a real bitch because it tends to reinforce its use (if you have a weight problem, then you can relate, cocaine use can escalate to food type cravings).

Be that as it may, in a scocial enviroment a small amount of cocaine can help you get out of your shell and have a good time.

Swim would sugest NOT GETTING INTO THE DOSES hype. Treat it with respect and it will treat you with respect as well.

For excample, you have planed going out to party with some friends, your night will begin at 22.00 and you hope to be at bed by 5.00

Put asside 100mg of cocaine and use no more than 10-20mg every 45minutes. 20mg of cocaine is two lines 2cm long and 2-3mm thick. THATS IT. YOU DONT HAVE TO USE MORE, any more than that and it just gets physical, it gets introverted and self sustained.

Use untill 4.00 so that 2 hours later you will go nicely to bed. No crash, no nothing, just a mellow come down.

the trick with cocaine is using less that you want. Eventually you will understand what swim means...

just be carefull, and remember the proper cocaine conoisseur uses little cocaine, for a limited amount of time, riping the benifits ONLY. Doing huge lines is a pissing contest that only leads to problems

(p.s. that is assuming you have pure cocaine...which you wont. In that case (absence of pure good quality cocaine) swim advises you this : DONT USE ANY. Dont let a fucking drug dealer take advantage of you. The only power the consumer has over a sellers market is veto the product. Do NOT buy something that is 40% cocaine 60% CRAP that will hurt your health and wallet)

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	Good Advice.
	excellent advice
	Well written guide, get this posted somewhere permanant

[I_dont_smoke_da_rifa]

to get most out of sniff, swim should be tipsy wile doing it, or he will just be wasting money. he should take it easy and when his coming down top him self up with alcohol and a little sniff.

swim should give a good hour off it before going to bed. comedown off the sniff then the alcohol and he should be fine. a joint does help to calm the hart down to put him ready for sleep mode.

[Aar0n]

Originally Posted by I_dont_smoke_da_rifa

to get most out of sniff, swim should be tipsy wile doing it, or he will just be wasting money.

SWIM is sure many others would disagree with this. Especially when cocaine and alchol is much more dangerous than the two seperately (Produces a certain chemical, SWIM can't recall the name of it right now).

And SWIM actually gets the most out of cocaine when completely sober. And to say it's wasting money is purely opinion.

[I_dont_smoke_da_rifa]

true everyone likes different things, swim just thinks alcohol is just part of it. i think when your doing it on its own your becoming hooked.

and mixing them together can be bad, but being drunk is not illigal and cheng is, lets face it, if you cared about harmfull chemicals then you would not be on this website, just what i think, not trying to be a smart ass. come on, a line is a lot more effective after two beers! bigger booooooooooooost!

Dont you agree?

[wee_ron]

SWIM knows this is an old thread but he though he would give his input.

SWIM would say that he prefers to do medium sized lines about 3-4in long
and not to thick.SWIM has never had a comedown (or hasnt noticed one)
on coke. but while he is on a comedown off xtc he just rides it out. mainly
because he hasnt got anything to help with the comedown. SWIM has told
me he heard that valium is good for the comedown but SWIM cant get his
hands on any.

as for mixing beer with coke, SWIM has never done coke or had the desire to
do coke sober.

WR

[sashamotto]

Try a numbie (dab finger in powder, rub on gums). See the flavour. See the numbing effect. See if SWIY allergic etc. Then do a very small bump. Like 0.5cm by 0.2cm, no bigger or SWIY first high will be too good. Then slowly increase SWIY's self to a size that is the width of a credit card. That should hold SWIY over 'til 2am, stick to that and make sure to save a lil' for the morning to fight cravings. And smoke lots of pot for the comedown. Oh, and start around like 6pm or sleep will be missed and SWIY will feel like absolute shit the next day and won't be able to work or hangout. But each person is different and all and SWIM can't say his way is better than anothers. It's just a suggestion. Anyways, enjoy and be ready (which SWIY seems to be).

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I think there is good advice in this post. Start small and check effects.

[TommyRowe]

Originally Posted by samgriffin

Background Info: SWIM has smoked pot countless times... Done shrooms twice (there coming around soon!!!)... Special K twice...Percocets a few times...and done Hydromorphone quite a few times... He has also tried lorazepam but gotten nothing from it (First time 1 gram oral, second 2 grams insufflation, third 3 grams oral... yet nothing).... He is 16 and is a bit above average size for his age being 5'11" 170lbs

First time smoking pot and doing shrooms was with his friend of quite along time and it was planned and such... enjoyed it very much and continued on... SWIM went on to try Special K on his own as well as Perks and hydromorph (he just did them downstairs and listened to pink floyd)

His experimentation buddy has made it clear he is staying away from chems and SWIM respects that as he's seen many people go down the wrong road.

SWIM has several friends that did coke and really only one or two that still does it (The rest had some bad run-ins with coke and a few with crack) and will probably talk to him maybe score a gram and split it for a night...

What he is wondering is what is the best situation to be in and any precautions to take before doing said cocaine... Some people have said hard liquor and weed are almost mandatory for the comedown

Sorry for it being so long but i wanna make sure I do it right and have a good time as I'd like to only do it once and stay away maybe again in the future but not get to into it...

Your thinking way to much about it. SWIMs first time he pysched himself out for no reason. You dont go crazy. You dont stop fuctioning. You will be fine. Nobody will even know except for you.

SWIY should expect the following to happen:

1. Lay out line
2. Snort it
3. Get a rush of energy
4. Get numb
5. Be irritated with the numbing of the throat at first and then fall in love with the sensation
6. Feel the come down coming
7. Have no problem with the come down
8. Do another line and repeat steps 1-7
9. Once coke is gone be very pissed off because you just spent $100 on a gram of coke, it was gone in a hour and all you have to show for it is a sore nose.

Do SWIM a favor... if your going to do drugs, hard drugs, just go for meth. Cheaper, lasts A LOT longer and you can feel it. A gram of meth will last SWIY a couple days where as SWIM has been known to do a line of coke that was a gram.

By the way, Cocaine is not a chem. It comes from a natural plant called the coca plant. No worse then weed (In its purest form) Meth however, definately a chem. SWIM cant tell you which ones because he isnt quite sure himself and it varies on batch.

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	Bad advice. Are you serious? Advising meth over cocaine without giving more facts? A line that was a gram? If it were a ...
	Not a chemical? How exactly does that work...? Take a Bio or Chem class. Nothing is made of nothing. Its all made of you...
	Good advice if inaccurate info.

[90%.]

Originally Posted by TommyRowe

Your thinking way to much about it. SWIMs first time he pysched himself out for no reason. You dont go crazy. You dont stop fuctioning. You will be fine. Nobody will even know except for you.

SWIY should expect the following to happen:

1. Lay out line
2. Snort it
3. Get a rush of energy
4. Get numb
5. Be irritated with the numbing of the throat at first and then fall in love with the sensation
6. Feel the come down coming
7. Have no problem with the come down
8. Do another line and repeat steps 1-7
9. Once coke is gone be very pissed off because you just spent $100 on a gram of coke, it was gone in a hour and all you have to show for it is a sore nose.

Do SWIM a favor... if your going to do drugs, hard drugs, just go for meth. Cheaper, lasts A LOT longer and you can feel it. A gram of meth will last SWIY a couple days where as SWIM has been known to do a line of coke that was a gram.

By the way, Cocaine is not a chem. It comes from a natural plant called the coca plant. No worse then weed (In its purest form) Meth however, definately a chem. SWIM cant tell you which ones because he isnt quite sure himself and it varies on batch.

and meth can make you go nuts and you can kill yourself more and be more addictive than coke. dont do meth its the worse.

[Euthanatos93420]

Originally Posted by TommyRowe

By the way, Cocaine is not a chem. It comes from a natural plant called the coca plant. No worse then weed (In its purest form) Meth however, definately a chem. SWIM cant tell you which ones because he isnt quite sure himself and it varies on batch.

Cocaine is not simply extracted from plant matter. It is a synthetic chemical that is not found in the coca leaf but created from very close precursors. Like Heroine to Morphine.

[TommyRowe]

I agree I may have been wrong on my wording of chemical.

However, I think that it still needs to be stated how dangerous either of these drugs are.

OP, just remember that all drugs are bad, Mmmkay? You can get addicted to any of them and they can all ruin your life. Make a informed decision before doing any of them. Dont rely on my testimony or anyone else. Research it. Decide if its really worth it.

Sticking to pot might just be the best suggestion you can take at this point. You have avoided hard drugs this long, why start now?

[edoggg]

agreed. try coke first. please dont do meth, just make sure that- as when trying any drug for the first time- you are around people who have done it and who you trust.