Drug info - Delsym 12-Hour Cough Relief

[club222]

Never done it before. I've been reading about it for a couple hours now
online and I keep getting mixed reactions from people. Some say that
it's great and others say to avoid it. The polystirex
in it makes it take longer to kick in, but actually how long is it
before it starts working? With regular DXM, SWIM usually feels it about an
hour into it. Also, some people say that with a 3oz bottle of Delsym,
you will still be tripping the next day. Is this true? Thanks for any
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[RoboCop]

I don't think you should avoid it, it is worth trying, everyone has different opinoins on it. It will take about twice as long to kick in, and last longer. SIWIM never has still been tripping the next day off delsym even when he did 8ozs. (a 5 oz and a 3 oz bottle)It will last longer though. Try a 3 oz and see what you think. But the taste is nothing like any other cough syrup, really easy to down. Kinda thick but not unpleasant tasting. SWIM prefers this to tussin syrup, more or less because of the taste, he usually takes a bottle of robo gel caps with it. About twice the cost though in most places.

[RoboCop]

Not to long ago a experiment took place taking 8oz's of delsym and the dissociation took 2 hours to begin to work its way up the plateus. Delsym starts very mild, the idea of wondering whether it was going to do anything more was present for a good 3-4 hours after drinking. About the fourth hour is when it really hit.

Delsym has a different dxm/dxo ratio due to the polystirex so the 'trip' was noticably different. Delsym due to the slow release gives more DXM and less DXO in the body. DXO is what provides the "stoning" and dissociative effects. While the stimulation, delusions, and phychosis like states are stronger with dxm. Delsym gives more of these and less dissociation.

So depending on which effects you would like to be more pronounced, is which you should choose dxm hbr, or dxm polistirex. SWIM personally rather has more dxo to dxm. But he rather drinks delsym than robotussin.

[club222]

Just thought I'd update on this after SWIM tried it. You couldn't have been
more right when you described the delsym trip. It was a different trip
than he usually experiences with other DXM hbr containing products.
Delsym seemed to put SWIM in a more pleasant state. It was very
enjoyable. It also worked its way up as you said. At first it felt a
little different and SWIM wasn't sure if this was it or not, but then it
all came and hit him at once later on.

Delsym

[Lacognac69]

ya, delsym definitely will give you a pretty nice experience. It did take 2 hours to kick in for SWIM. Definitely makes music more interesting and fun. The dissociative effects seem to take longer to occur also. It took a couple days to feel completely back to normal after using this stuff.BUt its pretty nice.

[Qish]

ok i see this stuff at the store all the time, that delsym childrens cough stuff in the big orange box, its real cheap.

you can find all the info on this on walgreens website
now it contains:

Ingredients: per 5 ml:

Dextromethorphan 30mg (extended release cough suppressant)

its in a 3 ounce bottle, so according to my math that would be 540mg.

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ok i believe i once read on erowid that when you take doses over time, that more of it is converted into dxo.

so first, is dxo good?

can someone list the negatives and positives, in a comparison of dxm and dxo.

because i think that if one where to take this they would be getting 540mg of dxo, as opposed to dxm.

also i found this, which talks about how very easy it is to seperate dxm polistirex from syrup (easier on your liver)

DXM Polistirex [already mentioned, but whatever...]
2L pop bottle
Water
A razor blade, or exacto knife
A spoon

What you do:

Pour your syrup into the 2L bottle. [note: do not use a 2L bottle
for doses under 900mg. Use a smaller bottle.] Then, add water. Fill the
bottle up about 2 inches from the top, and give it a shake to get the
syrup mixed in there.

Next, simply leave the bottle upright for 2+ hours. I usually mix up
the syrup and water 3 or 4 hours before I plan on dosing. After 2+
hours is up, you'll notice a collection of powder on the bottom of the
bottle. Thats what you want. Thats the DXM.

Once the bottle has sat for 2+ hours, take it into the bathroom, and
set it in the sink. Now, use your razor to cut through the bottle near
the top, to let some of the fluid drain out. Then, make the cut go
further down, to let more drain out, and further down, until you're
about 1 inch from the piles of powder. [note: you can syphon it out,
but I find this to be an easier way of getting rid of the unwanted
liquid]

Once theres only about 1 inch of liquid above the powder level, cut
the bottom portion of the bottle off. Then, use a spoon to get as much
of the liquid as you can out, without disturbing the powder.

Now you have two options. What I usually do [simply because its
easier] is then pour about a mouthfull of coke [coca-cola!] into the
bottom portion with the DXM. Then I swirl it around the get the DXM
unstuck from the sides of the bottle. Then, I down it all in one gulp.
It should look clumpy and gross, just drink it."

well anyway, my math is really bad and im sure a lot of this could be
wrong, infact im not sure if i even rememebr correctly about the dxm
being converted to dxo.

[als5555]

i just tried the extraction method and it worked great, but the trip wasn't. i got the powder out of the syrup at 9 pm. and swallowed it. by one in the morning i still wasn't feeling a thing. so i went to sleep. i wake up at 4 in the morning buzzing like mad. but the buzz was purely physical. my mind didn't feel any different. i didn't feel high at all, i just felt really dizzy and annoyed that i couldn't get back to sleep.

[bcStoner420]

does dxm polisterix usually require a higher dosage, i got about 350 mg worth of it th inkin about usin for my first time tomorrow night instead of going out and buying some other stuff. is that a good dose?

[club222]

With Delsym it takes me about a good 2 1/2 hours to begin feeling
effects. Polystirex trips usually peak a good 5-6 hours for me and then
comedown is another few hours. With Hbr, I peak for about 3-4 hours. So
yeah, Delsym trips do seem to last longer for me, but they don't seem
to be anywhere near as strong as an Hbr trip.

[bcStoner420]

wow ok well i did my trip, u might have seen my other thread i gotta update it tho because right after i wrote it it hit me waay more intenstly i would say it peaked for me at 8 hours which is a really long time but i took at 430, once it hit around 12 or 1230 is when it hit me hard and i stayed up for another 2 hours trippin nicely

[Muirner]

So i tried that Dsylum tonight. I took a 98ml bottle at 10:30 (currently 1:44)on an empty stomach but it was poured into a little carton of OJ. The trip is pretty good, not as intense as i was expecting 534mg to be. I get a better trip off of Robo Max. Maybe i'll try to mix robo with grapefruit, for a 354mg dose. What is everyone elses opinion on dslyum? Maybe there is more to come for me, hell i'm only a few hours into it


Muirner

[club222]

Delsym alone isn't that great for me. If I'm going to take Delsym, then
I like to take it on top of some HBr. It has a much slower come up than
HBr and isn't as intense due to less DXM being converted to DXO. If I
take it on top of HBr then while I'm peaking on the HBr, it seems as if
it still continues to grow because of the Delsym kicking in. Delsym is
definitely the best tasting syrup though, but it's a bit expensive.

[Monoxide]

I remeber when i first started tripping Delsyum was very fun, a 4oz
bottle made me feel great and it lasted longer but now if i took a 4 oz
bottle of Delsyum i eally dont feel anything maybe a bit stumbley but
thats it, My fav way to do DXM now is drink a 4oz bottle of Robo Max
then take a bottle of Coguh Gels, The cough syuprt kciks in within 30
minz usally then while its peak start coming up the Cough Gels kick in
and its an intense trip.

[Muirner]

Delsym is a polistyrex, thatis it isa sort of digestable plastic, which takes longer to break down than hydrobromide (HBr) which Robo is. The thing widh delsym is that you will trip longer, but not as intense because the polistyrex releases less DXM (which is converted to DXO) at a time, because it is time released. HBr, is a lot quicker and the trips will be a lot more intense.

Personally i would take a bottle of Delsym (the 89ml) and then ~150mg of DXM HBr (which ever way you want). I like to wait a little bit to take the HBr, because i like the very subtile effects that the polistyrex gives, and then once those effects are knowticed, i go for the full on trip. Doing it this way will lead to a very intense, and long trip. A whole bottle of Delsym (89ml) can keep me tripping for at least 12 hours, you will go to bed tripping, and wake up tripping. While the trip might not be as intense you will feel it for as long.


Delsym for an 89ml bottle has 534mg of DXM which is time released. and any HBr (a lot quicker to break down) on top of that will make the trip more intense.

Muirner

[Loser]

ya had my first delsym trip last night... it is a lot laster more teasing effect... i got to about 2nd plateau peak before it started to taper off... thats when i took 600mg robo's but i passed out when those peaked...

that was taken about 5+ after dose... but ya it was alot longer.... the trip was longer... i still got hanging effects... its about 3 now...

[Muirner]

You deffentally need to take some HBr with some Delsym. The only reason behind this is because the Delsym is time released and it wont be as hardcore of a trip... some HBr, will work off of the time released and make for a good time.


Dip- The other night i was on 89ml of Delsym, about an hr after taking it i took 10robo gels. Then ~2 hours later i took 20 robo gels. I had a few sips of a bicardi and coke. And then smoked. I ended up having a crazy trip... It was my last trip. you and unico were right i was hitting DXM WAY WAY! to hard. If you want to read more then look into the DXM experiences section. If i can remember what happened i'll post a report of my own.

Muirner

[pyro15]

I have a 3oz bottle of a cough suppressant called "Delsym". Has any one
ever tried this stuff before. I wouldn't ask except it says that it
contains dextromethorphan polistirex rather than dextromethorphan
hydrobromide. It is also a thick goop that smells terrible, way
different than regular robo. The only reason I'm thinking of giving it
a shot is because it says that "Each teaspoonful contains
dextromethorphan polistirex equivalent to 30mg dextromethorphan
hydrobromide". Any help is appreciated.

[wednesday]

it a much more drawn out mellow high
my advice would be to take that with some dexalone or just something (pills would be the best source) with only DXM in them

the polistirex means its like a plastic and that in DXM terms it last for a long time so with normal DXM on top of it its a very hard trip
with low doses
Paul

[wednesday]

i would say a small bottle of delsym and maybe ten (15mg per pill) pills would be great to start on the the delsmy because its very different and much longer with that
Paul

[pyro15]

Thanks for the help guys, but I ended up downing the bottle anyway. It
tasted pretty shitty and I could feel all the little pieces of plastic
in it, but I managed to get it down anyway. I drank it at about
11 pm, and the maximum effects kicked in at about 12. It was a small
dose, and time release, so it wasn't real intense, but I could
definitely feel it. I talked to my sister on the phone for quite a few
hours (which is unusual for me). Then I tried to go to sleep but I
couldn't, so I listened to some music. I had the song "Feelgood Inc."
by the Gorrilaz on repeat for a couple hours (not entirely sure why). I
turned off the music at around 5, and next thing I know the sun's
coming up, and I haven't gone to sleep yet. Six o'clock comes around
and I'm not asleep yet, so I just decided to get up and get in the
shower. It's now 8 am, and most of the effects have worn off (This
stuff was supposed to last a pretty long time), now I sort of feel like
I'm drunk. Overall it was a neat experience, and I'll definitely try it
again soon. This time I'll do it right and get a good dose of normal
DXM.

[wednesday]

you see what i was saying about taking the pills as well now?
1 part delsym (long ass trip) 1 part pills (enhancer)
you will come out with a very long trip that is very colorful and hard to understand
its my favorite way to do it and i used to get the pure dxm (well...97% i believe) 50 grams at a time
Paul

[Muirner]

If you do it the way that wednesday says, and take some polistirex with some HBr (like robo gels or what knot). Know that your trip will be much much different then any other that you've had before. Be prepaired for a good 6+hour trip, and an afterglow that is with you almost the whole next day.

I'm not saying this is a bad thing because like wednesday i enjoy this combo too. This is my favorate part. Now to clarify something. sense your taking Delsym and robo gels the amount of DXM in both is not your total. Sense Delsym is a time released you will have more DXM in you less DXO. But with the RoboGels you will have more DXO then DXM in you. SO you will continue to tripp harder and harder until the pills wear off.

Those nights where you cant sleep are crazy. I love those and now when ever i trip i will wait till i see the sun come up, and hear my dads alarm go off, then it's to bed in a hurry.

Muirner

[pyschonaut]

Just saw this product (Delsym) in the store where SWIM works and noticed its only active ingredient was DXM, with no harmful inactives. The only reason SWIM is bringing it up is because the label says "Great Orange Taste" and was wondering if there was any validity to this staement. SWIM would hope that it tastes at least better than Robo.

[gargravarr]

Quick google search of delsym dxm turned this up:

"Delsym 12-hour Cough Relief is an extended release syrup. This means that the DXM isn't absorbed right away, rather it breaks down in the stomach under time. The DXM is coated with a special edible plastic called "polystirex". Because of the extended release of the DXM, it tends to build up in the system, which can be harmful in large doses. Most would recommend that one doesn't do this syrup recreationally, and I agree. It doubles one's chances for Olney's Lesions and is 2 times harder on your body than regular DXM. Delsym Cough comes in 3 ounce bottles. Each bottle contains 265.5 milligrams of DXM Polystirex (equal to 531 milligrams of DXM HBr)."

Some of swims friends swear by this, but swim himself doesn't like the different sort of trip it gives you and sticks by his tussin syrup.

[pyschonaut]

Originally Posted by gargravarr

Some of swims friends swear by this, but swim himself doesn't like the different sort of trip it gives you and sticks by his tussin syrup.

How would SWIYs friends describe this trip different?