pure mdma

[ch00se]

hi guys, swim was wondering how much pure mdma swim should take

swim has done mdma once before and estasy tablets another 2 times (2 of the 3 times were pretty heavy dosages 7-8pills)

swim has never purchased mdma before, therefore has no idea of how much swim should buy for 1 night (10hour night) and how many different bombs swim should split it into

swim is thankful for any advice!

[ch00se]

swim did look for threads relating to this matter (rather unsuccessfully swim might add) but has now had some success

swim saw suggested 100mg then top up every hour (how much would a top up consist of?)

would others also recommend this?

swim is 205 pounds and 195cm

[Sky Walker]

When Billy Smarts has been in similar situations, he just bought what he could reasonable afford. Then he'd simply ask the dealer how much he takes to get a good hit, Billy would then proceed to take half of what the dealer recommended and then gradually/cautiously work it up from there until the desired results were achieved. Remember, purity varies, in some cases drastically and seeing as how your from the U.K I'd wager my life's savings that it will be far from PURE MDMA.

I'd suggest that swim doesn't top up every hour, top up only once more, an hour or two after ingestion if the desired results were not achieved with the initial dose. This should help swim accurately gage a close to perfect dose for his second time round. The first time should always be approached with an air of caution and should be counted as a controlled experiment of sorts, IBSO*.


*In Billy Smarts opinion.

[ch00se]

Originally Posted by Sky Walker

When Billy Smarts has been in similar situations, he just bought what he could reasonable afford. Then he'd simply ask the dealer how much he takes to get a good hit, Billy would then proceed to take half of what the dealer recommended and then gradually/cautiously work it up from there until the desired results were achieved. Remember, purity varies, in some cases drastically and seeing as how your from the U.K I'd wager my life's savings that it will be far from PURE MDMA.

is white or a darker colour better, or can this again be faked?

swim thanks you for the reply

[Sky Walker]

From what I understand, mild discolouration doesn't have much affect on the overall quality/potency of the product. White powders/crystals are purer than slightly discoloured products but I think this is simply to do with the extra washing process the chemicals go through. Darker colours indicate the presence of impurity's, not necessarily bad/dangerous impurity's but they do result in a not entirely pure or totally clean product.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, cause that was just off the top of my head.

[rah]

Yes of course white pure crystalline powder is best. unless ur source added a buffer....

[BlondieUK]

Swim would say that 1 gram was more than enough for a night.

Try and get hold of some grass and beer for the comedown though.

[Petethemeat]

You are right a gram is more than enough for the night- way more. I would not reccommend trying to make the mdma experience last ten hours, as the last few hours are probably not going to be much fun, as serotonin is likely to be well depleted by this time. It is also believed that if neurotoxicity occurs then taking mdma later in the night is most likely to do this.

SWIM would reccomend no more than 500mg at absolute max. Take 250mg to start with then he would reccommend perhaps one booster dose of 100, this is more than SWIM would do, but it seems you take it quite heavily. Take the 500 if you really desire but it wont be a fun monday for you. SWIM would say doing anything near a G of fairly pure MDMA is very silly.

[RaverHippie]

I agree with Pete's recommendation. More than 1000mg is overdoing it. SWIY would have a very similar experience following the dosage pattern above and using more than one booster through the night doesn't enhance effects really, it just prolongs the energy effects of the drug not the euphoria after one booster.

[julian]

in swim's opinion, there shouldn't be talk of people doing over 250 mg in a night let alone 1000. 250 mg can be plenty for three people if they are beginners like yourself.

[Petethemeat]

I was recommending that 1000mg is stupid. 500mg is also in my view a silly amount, yet as the friend of the poster has attested to, he has used 7 or 8 pills before and therefore may find low/medium dosages ineffective.

Provided you can get fairly pure MDMA about 200mg over the course of the night is reasonable. If you are with beginners or people with low body mass then it is wise to do even less than this. SWIM was saying that 500mg is the ABSOLUTE max you would use, and he recommended that he shouldnt.

[Pretty_Diamonds]

An ecstasy tablet contains about 100mg of MDMA. SWIY is such a beginner, I don't know how SWIY takes 7-8 pills. I would imagine they are not good quality AT ALL. Maybe SWIY has been taking ecstasy tablets that contained less than 50mg of MDMA--that would make more sense although still a somewhat of a high dose. SWIM would suggest 200mg-300 of MDMA.

[Micklemouse]

Given that MDMA is usually active at ~70 mg, then this should be the dose to start from when dosing your hypothetical donkeys. 200 - 300 mgs is far too high without a high tolerance, & would give a potentially overwhelming experience, & will ceratinly heighten the probability of the moe unpleasant side effects kicking in (overstimulation, raised blood pressure & heart rate, kidney strain, etc, not to mention rapid loss of "magic" if this is done regularly).

Remember kittlings, with "pure" MDMA, after it becomes active, less is generally more.

Reputation Comments on this post:

good info

[Masa]

SWIM has had MDMA 5-10 times way allways a dark crystal
he used 2 x 250mg hits each time so half gram over the night
was nice and he swears it made his K trip far far better
its true he is a big dude tho and pretty heavy pill muncher so i would say you could use less than this

[ch00se]

great responses guys, most informative

thanks

[papaism]

SWIM would suggest ~150-175mg to start since SWIY is a big guy, then 75mg boost about 1-1.5hrs in, then perhaps (generally not a good idea) another small booster dose sometime later in the night.

[23smooches]

Originally Posted by rah

Yes of course white pure crystalline powder is best. unless ur source added a buffer....

Not true. Pure MDMA coloration ranges from tan to off white.

[OzzBozz]

I'd say take 150mg, then keep dosing on.


SWIM took 350-400 mg's over a night of pressed pure mdma pills this weekend, and SWIM is the same weight as SWIY... this was more than enough. SWIM reccomends 250-300mg's over a 8 hour period... topps.

[RaverHippie]

It should be noted that after the initial come-up boosters won't really add to the euphoria of the trip, just increasing the negative effects and giving more energy.

[23smooches]

Originally Posted by OzzBozz

I'd say take 150mg, then keep dosing on.


SWIM took 350-400 mg's over a night of pressed pure mdma pills this weekend, and SWIM is the same weight as SWIY... this was more than enough. SWIM reccomends 250-300mg's over a 8 hour period... topps.

That is just unnecesary, a good dose for MDMA is 100-150mgs, anything beyond that wont make you feel any better, it wil just make the comedown harder, and will increase your tolerance. A small booster of about 50mgs during your peak will be sufficient to keep you at a steady level. But the feeling never lasts forever, and the more you try to make it last, the harder it will be to reach that peak again. You should dose once, and then be fine for the night, otherwise, you might have a problem. There is definitely no need to take 300mgs in one night. It doesnt make you higher.
You should check EROWID.ORG for dosing guides.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_dose.shtml

Reputation Comments on this post:

Quite right!

[ch00se]

thanks for all the replies guys

going to trance energy 2 weeks today (http://trance-energy.id-t.com/te2008/site/), so wanna make sure im all set for that :P

i think what my panda going to do is take a few 50mg's then later in the night take a big dosage, 100-150mg

hopefully should do the trick, although im sure it will be great whatever

[RaverHippie]

It would actually be better for your panda to start with the 150mg then when coming up take another 50-100mg, from anecdotal experiences...

Reputation Comments on this post:

Yes it would, this is good advice

[papaism]

SWIM thinks SWIY should ALWAYS start with the main dose first. Taking 50mg's a few times first then the 150mg dose later on will probably greatly diminish the peak of the main 150mg dose.

Reputation Comments on this post:

Agree'd, good advice.

[Petethemeat]

I agree, take the main dose first